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Hi Patricia!  Griffin’s first chemo day was a long one, too!  He had a rehab appointment as well, but that only added about 45 minutes to a 6 hour visit to the Animal Medical Center.  They conducted an abdominal ultrasound and did regular blood tests, but I’m not sure exactly why it took as long as it did.  You are correct about Doxorubicin having potential cardiac side effects.  Griffin had an echocardiagram performed in February after blood work for a different procedure showed elevated cardiac enzymes.  The oncologist spoke with the vet who conducted the echocardiagram to ensure that Griffin was cleared for that type of chemo drug (he was).  I have become somewhat accustomed to turning Griffin over at the door, but I don’t think any of us are happy about not being with our pups during the exams, not meeting the doctors, and not speaking with them face to face.  AMC has been great with communication, as evidenced by the replies I received today to my chemo questions (see below).  I hope this information is helpful to those thinking about/going through chemo.  I’d love any additional notes others may have!  ~ Stacy

Blood Tests – My oncologist does a complete blood count (CBC) test after giving chemo the first time in an effort to anticipate what will happen after each treatment. She looks for drops in white cells mainly but also platelets and red cells. Each type of chemo can have lows at different times. For Carboplatin, the white cells tend to drop at week 1 and/or 2, but the platelets at week 2, 3 and/or even 4, so she recommends a CBC both 1 and 2 weeks after the first dose. For Doxorubicin, the white cell drop is generally at week 1 and platelets don’t tend to be affected, so she recommends a CBC 1 week after the first dose.  Provided there are no issues, Griffin will not have blood tests scheduled after subsequent rounds of chemo.  My oncologist said that my regular vet (walking distance from my house) could run the blood tests provided that she was prepared to prescribe medication for bone marrow suppression if needed.  I emailed my regular vet to see if this next CBC (scheduled for May 1st) could be done locally.  Assuming all is fine with that CBC, Griffin will have only one more scheduled a week after his second round of chemo (first round of Doxo), and I’ll probably return to AMC for that one.

Scheduling of Chemo Rounds – My oncologist plans to administer alternating rounds of chemo drugs, with a 4-week wait for the next round after Carbo and a 3-week wait after Doxo.  She is recommending 6 total rounds of Carbo and 5 total rounds of Doxo.  There is a limit of how much Doxo a dog can have in his lifetime, but she said that some families continue to administer Carbo every 4 weeks indefinitely provided there are no side effects.

Acupuncture – My oncologist recommends blood tests before acupuncture to ensure that Griffin’s platelets are not dropping which could make him at high risk for bleeding during acupuncture sessions.  Because of the extra $250 cost for an exam and CBC which would be required before every session, I will be discontinuing acupuncture.

Cost – I had read somewhere that Doxo costs a lot less than Carbo, but my oncologist said that for a dog Griffin’s size, they are about the same.  The cost for just the Carbo ($925), catheter administration ($215), and an injection of anti-nausea meds ($30) was $1,170.  My oncologist is going to provide me an estimate for the remaining 10 rounds of chemo so I can plan accordingly.

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26 April 2020 - 5:17 pm
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Hi Stacy,

Griffwn really looks like he is enjoying that pool. In fact it looks good right now being on Texas. I am sure Griffen will be in that pool in no time the way he has had excellent process.

Yea, the vet bills do add up. We all get that!

We went the Hollostic route and did rehab, but there is still a lot of cost involved. 

But Griffwn looks great. With his face shaved I swear some of his expressions look like Brownie. That excited look, the curios look, and of course smiling! And Griffwn does smile a lot.  

By the way, I don’t think Griffen would want to trade you for a pool.

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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Hi Nancy – I can’t wait to get Griffin back in the pool this summer.  And while he wouldn’t trade me for a pool, he’d certainly love to have both if possible! smiley2 Stacy

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99 is better

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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26 April 2020 - 5:42 pm
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Sorry that last text was an accident.  What is the temp in NYC. We are already swimming in texas.

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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26 April 2020 - 5:56 pm
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I was wondering what 99 was better than!  The temperature in NYC right now is 46º, feeling more like high 30s, and raining.  Spring has occasionally dipped a toe in NYC, but hasn’t yet committed to staying! icon_rolleyes 

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I really miss the 4 seasons. In Texas it’s two seasons. wet and hot!

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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Stacy said

Scheduling of Chemo Rounds – My oncologist plans to administer alternating rounds of chemo drugs, with a 4-week wait for the next round after Carbo and a 3-week wait after Doxo.  She is recommending 6 total rounds of Carbo and 5 total rounds of Doxo.  There is a limit of how much Doxo a dog can have in his lifetime, but she said that some families continue to administer Carbo every 4 weeks indefinitely provided there are no side effect

  

I know Jerry will chime in.  I saw also where uoumposted to Ask A Vet

USUALLY, and this is just my opinion, but usually the debate most often is whether tomdo four, five or six rounds of Carboplatin.  The Oncologist  for Happy Hannah suggest four rounds.  Again, some recommend five and some six.  Basically she said “less is more”, but some with more funds ava wanted to do the six.

GENERALLY, certainly  not always, Carboplatin is the chemo used most often. with ONE blood work up inbetween the treatments.  The treatments  of Carbo are usually three weeks apart. 

Jerry will have to pull the links to those who did the Doxo.  I’m thinking maybe Eurydice???   .I don’t think it was that many rounds though.  That just seems like a lot……a lot of money, a lot of ongoing Vet visits…a lot of pokkng……keeping in mind I don’t  know squat about it!!!

Also, and again Jerry will find the linka, but I “think”  continuing  on with chemo was not proven to be effective.  Again, just trusting a feeble memory, butnit seems like it was discussed o ce or twice here.

Obviously  not offering anything “professional”….just kind of some rambling  observations.  In no way to I mean to be implying  anything one way or another with the protocol she’s suggesting..

The bottom line is YOU do what YOU feel is right for Griffin!!   You know Griffin best and you kmow your circumstances  best!   And you always do what’s best for Griffin👍  ypYou two are such an incredible  team❤❤

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Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Hi Sally!  Thanks for weighing in here.  I actually started a new topic, “Chemotherapy Protocols” in the Ask a Vet forum to gather more input about the number of chemo rounds, the alternating of drugs, and the length of time between rounds.  Clearly, I don’t need to make a decision about how many rounds right now, but if I choose to go beyond 6 rounds, I want to make sure I have budgeted appropriately.  As long as Griffin is tolerating the chemo well, and knowing that there won’t be future blood tests between rounds, I’m happy to take it one round at a time.  Another consideration is the Yale vaccine trial that Oakley’s human, Paul, mentioned in his initial post.  Griffin would need to complete all chemo and wait 3 weeks before taking the first of 2 doses of the vaccine.  I haven’t decided about that course of action either, but I’m trying to gather as much information, based on data or experience, as I can so I can make informed decisions when the time comes.  I’m so thankful for the Tripawds community! ~ Stacy

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I dont remember what type of chemo Charlee had,  it was so long ago. But I do remember it was 6 rounds at three weeks apart. 

She was a German Shepard 

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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By the way, Czar has had i think two injections of the Yale vacine if you wanted to chat with someone.  Her forum is in Share your story, under the name Riot. You may have already seen it.

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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Sorry, I was wrong.  Her forum is now named “Czar update”

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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Hmmm… I am curious about the protocol your onco is recommending. The mix with Doxorubicin is not something we’ve seen a lot around here so I’m wondering if there is some new information we just haven’t heard about yet. And it is true that some dogs are getting carboplatin indefinitely. Not many, but I have heard of it being done. So yeah let us know what you find out.

Oftentimes what it comes down to is the oncologist’s experience with a modified version of the current standard of care. If they start seeing positive results with some new twist they are doing, they will often stick to it. Every onco seems to have their own modified version of the standard of care. This one is interesting though because doxo is an older drug with more know risks than carboplatin as far as I recall. But whatever you feel is best for Griffin is what it comes down to.

That’s also an interesting take on the bloodwork and acupuncture, I’ve never heard of that approach before.

Hmm, I’m thinking we should get your oncologist on our podcast to enlighten us on her approach, it’s interesting.

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I was also curious about bloodwork with acpunture? Brownie didn’t have that done before acpunture. Maybe because of the chemo it is recommended? 

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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This is an old link from 2014 put together by one of our members. I’ve forgotten her quick and chills but definitely sort of a PhD in science or genetics or something like that there’s a brief mention of carboplatin and doxy. I think it references that the protocol was 3 carbo and 3 doxy but you’ll have to review that for yourself. Also we had a dog on here named Bart and he did the Doxie carbo protocol it did however make him sick but he was a long-term Survivor and actually became quite famou

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