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chondrosarcoma and radiation
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14 June 2010 - 4:55 pm
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My 8 year old Lab has been diagnosed witih chondrosarcoma, right rear leg, no mets, level 1.  Recommended treatment is to surgically remove tumor and radiate to kill any remaining cells.  But just learned tumor cannot be removed due to location (too close to knee), making only surgical option amputation.  Oncologist acknowleding that amputation will "cure" the cancer, but saying definitive radiation is also a good option (wth knowledge that this type of cancer has a low probablility of spreading, and we may ultimately have to amputate if/when it returns in the leg).  Anyone faced this choice?  I'm having a hard time finding information and deciding how to make the decision.  Don't want to miss chance to cure cancer, but on the other hand there is value in giving my (relatively) young and very active pooch a few more 4 legged years ...

 

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14 June 2010 - 5:35 pm
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Thanks for joining! Sorry to hear about your pup's diagnosis. Does he have a name?

Jerry had osteosarcom in his scapula, so we didn't face the same choice. But I can tell you that too many times we have heard from people who put their dog through multiple painful expensive surgeries only to proceed with amputation anyway.

They are, however, doing some amazing stuff with limb sparing and radiation these days. Where are you located? Do you have access to an advanced cancer care facility? Don't miss the Tripawds News blog posts from our tour of Colorado State University, specifically where we discuss their advances in radiation therapy for cancer in dogs.

Finally, be sure to bookmark Jerry's Required Reading List for lots of links to helpful advice and tips from the past few years here.

PS: Next time you're in the Tripawds Chat , be sure to post a comment. We don't bark, well... not too loud anyway!

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14 June 2010 - 5:43 pm
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My retriever and very active Ruthie was 1 week shy of her 6th birthday when she was diagnosed.  The left rear leg had to go.  She did incredibly well on 3 legs for 9 months before she lost the battle.  If you choose amputation, just know that it doesn't mean the end of an active life...these pups do so well it's amazing.  I hope you can get the advice you need to make your decision.  Good luck with whatever you decide.  Send pics and let us know how things go.

Pat (Angel Ruthie's Mom)

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14 June 2010 - 5:51 pm
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Hello,

There are many things to consider here, and you ultimately know your pup best.  There is cost, the definition of 'low probablility', how otherwise healthy your dog is…

Here was my decision making process:

My pug Maggie was diagnosed with a mast cell tumor in her left knee which could not be removed surgically.  She was 7.5 years old at the time. One option was radiation treatment, the other option was amputation.  After hearing what was involved in radiation treatment I decided against it for Maggie.  Mostly because she would have to be put under anesthetic so many times, and short faced breeds like pugs can have problems with that, and Maggie in particular had always had some trouble with anesthetic.  Also she would have to wear a cone much of the time, and our experience with that had been bad as well.  The prognosis with amputation was very good at the time so that is what I opted for.  After amputation it was found that the cancer had probably spread to the lymph system so we did chemo- but that is another story.

Unfortunately there are no gaurentees with cancer.  It is good that there is a low probablitiy that this type of cancer will spread without amputation, but is it worth taking a chance?  Again, only you know your pup, and you have to make the best decision you can for him/her.

We all know how difficult these decisions are.  The best thing to do is get all the information you can, consider your options, and then follow your heart.  As long as you are doing the best you can for your pup you can't go wrong.  We here will support you with whatever decsion you make.

Maggie lived three years and nine months after her amputation, I recently lost her to a second unrelated type of cancer.  She had some limitations, but lived a full pug life after her amp.

Check out the Tripawds Required Reading List for more info on amputation and cancer treatment (sorry for the duplication if admin posted this before me).

Good luck with your decision.  Also post some pics and give us a name for you and your pup.

Karen and the pug girls 

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15 June 2010 - 12:14 pm
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Hi, thanks to all who responded.  It really is helpful to hear from others, and I'll check out the links.  Pup's name is Ajax, and we are in NYC so we have access to the Animal Medical Center (hence Ajax's "team" of doctors referenced above).  At the moment, we wait 2 weeks for a second CT scan to confirm diagnosis of no lung mets, so we're crossing our fingers there and exploring options for treating the leg in the meantime ... I am interested to learn how those of you who, unfortunately, found cancer in a different location after amputation found it - was it discoverable at the time of the amputation? 

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17 June 2010 - 4:19 pm
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When we first found the tumor and before a diagnosis was made, our doctors were working on the assumption that Jack had chondrosarcoma (tumor location and it appeared to have crossed into the neighboring bone) so all our decisions were based on this pre-diagnosis.  To me, cancer was cancer and I wanted it gone.  I didn't even consider limb-sparing surgery.  Dogs can do just as well on 3 legs as they do on 4.  We even found out just the other day that there are some things that tripawds can do that 4 legged dogs can't such as wiggle out of being restrained at the vet clinic 😛  My dog can run with the other dogs at the park, can still jump in the air, can shake, can high-five, can roll over...everything he could do beforehand and more, he's just doing it without cancer in his leg.  Ajax doesn't care if he has a few more years with 4 legs or 3 legs, just that those few more years are spent with you and the rest of his family.  Also, just because the cancer is not that likely to spread, the fact that there is a tumor in there might be pretty uncomfortable for baby dog.  I think the best decision is doing whatever you feel is the right thing to do.  Listen to the doctors, listen to us tripawders, and make a decision that you can be happy with...the worst is when you go against your gut because then you're always going to second-guess yourself.  I'm sending good decision-making mojo your way!!

 

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27 June 2010 - 2:10 pm
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Thanks Laura - we are still flip flopping while waiting for Ajax's confirming CT scan tomorrow - but in the meantime he has been swimmnig in the pool, ocean, kayaking and generally having a great week on vacation ... so we're  happy about that.

 

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Hey Kazy...I see that you left a comment on my blog about Zoe and her ongoing battle with chondrosarcoma.  I feel badly that you came across it just as we are dealing with cancer's return and you having to make a decision about amputation for Ajax.  These decisions are very difficult and I hope my blog didn't make it harder.

But I also wanted to say that it sounds like our dogs' diagnoses are actually pretty different, even though it's condro they are both dealing with.  I don't know Zoe's grade of cancer for sure, but I know that they warned us that it looked like it was a particularly aggressive/fast growing type of chondrosarcoma (maybe they said grade 3?).  Even then, they had given us a 70% chance that she'd be "cured" of cancer once she had the operation.  Looks like we were in the 30%, unfortunately. But know that our results weren't typical.

Also, Zoe is older than Ajax, and already had hip displasia and pain while walking well before cancer, so going to one rear leg was a bit harder on her mobility than it would have been if she wasn't dealing with that issue.  From your description, Ajax sounds like a much (much!) more active dog than Zoe ever was.  If you do choose amputation, my guess is that her activity and health will help her bounce back rather quickly.

Even with only one hip displasia leg, Zoe, who is sort of a lazy bum to begin with 😉 was happy to go for walks to the mailbox about a block away as soon as 1-2 weeks after surgery.  4 months later she was going on 1-2 mile walks.  She was hopping onto the bed and couch at 5 months post-op (it's harder to jump for rear amputees).

I saw elsewhere that it is a difficult decision also because Ajax is not currently in pain.  This was not Zoe's case - she was in a great deal of pain before her surgery.  I wonder if this means you caught it earlier than we did?

Just a few thoughts while you make your decision for your beloved companion.

Kristina

 

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11 July 2010 - 7:35 pm
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Kristina,

Thank you so much for your detailed response.  I really appreciate all the information you took the time to include, especially when going through a hard time of your own.  I ended (today) thinking amputation is the right choice, but will likely flip flop a few (0r 100) more times before making a final decision.   And thanks also for letting me know that they knew up front that you might have a more aggressive type of CS.

Zoe is beautiful and clearly has an awesome mom.  I'll share with you a brief story because it might make you laugh:  when we got Ajax, we went to puppy classes right away at 16 weeks.  For some reason (probably because we were in the city), the class was full of little dogs.  The only big puppies were Ajax, and a Weimariener.  It was much like the best in show movie.  Ajax and the Weimariener were the best in the class.  But whereas the Weimareiner Lady came dressed stylishly and all polished, I went home after work and put on my athletic clothes because Ajax has always required a lot of interaction (read:  puppy jumped!).  Anyway, Ajax and the Weimareiner were absolutely the tops at sitting and down adn staying.  Except Ajax, once he realized that he was going to be there for a while, would slump down in his "sit", or flop over on his side in his "stay."  Meanwhile, the Weimereiner would sit up beautifully much like Zoe's picture.  So there I was, messy and floppy with my floppy dog, and there was Weimariener Lady and Weimareiner perfectly polished and sitting pretty.  Zoe reminds me of that dog.

Thank you again for the information.  It seems we are in a a fairly unique situation and I appreciate so much you giving me the background so I can evaluate properly.

Best of luck - please give Zoe a big (but not sloppy) kiss from Ajax and me.

Kathleen

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