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Gonna try and piece together Some of the emails in the last 24 hrs the Rehab sent me.  She is going to call me sometime Monday with a POSSIBLE time to see us in the next day or so.   I'm  also going to call  my refular Vet and see if I can get him in Monday afternoon  if I don't  here from her.  Dont ask me why, but I just feel strongly  that  she can evaluate  him wothnher expertise without having to try and haul his two-legged butt in the car for a long drive,  do xray, etc.  CERTAINLY  will do whatever diagnostics  necessary 

One reason her sxhedulemis so tight, she's a fill in Vet for a couple of different Bets and has made commitments to them the past several weeks, and the upcoming weeks.  That, plus her Rehab business, plus any trip out here is basically  two hours total of drive time.

Goodness knows though,she certainly  has some good guaranteed income, as many of you know😙

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Oh.....here are some of her email points!  And she DOES have some  ore Video of Franlie as his "condition" worsened.....different a goes, positions , etc. So,tjat,along with his history, the high likelihood  of meniscus appearing after tjese surgeries, etc, that's  why she  are her observations .

While meniscal tear and arthritis are likely, there are other possibilities which would include muscle/tendon injury, infection (not common esp at this stage but is possible) and breakdown of surgical scar tissue to point of instability (less likely at this stage).  If it’s a meniscal tear and just aggravation/stretching of scar tissue or muscle/tendon, then manipulation can be done to try to fold the cartilage back into place.  It’s 50-50 on working and may take a few visits.  If it doesn’t work, then surgery is needed.  The other injuries will simply take time and supportive rehab to heal, basically like stepping back to where we were in mid January.

If there is full instability it can still stabilize over 3-4 months without surgery but will have much more arthritis than with surgery. Surgery would regain mobility faster.  And infection would require intensive antibiotics.

don’t know that there is a right or wrong decision on who should evaluate Frankie in your situation—just pro’s and cons to each option:

 

  1. Surgery specialist (like VRCC or VVSA) of course is ideal since they have the greatest resources and expertise, and especially if you think surgery is a financial option, but surgery runs around $3000-$4000 if it is needed, and the evaluations, rads, mri, us or whatever diagnostics they decide upon are more expensive. Also you will have to take Frankie in.  They may take a little longer than regular vet to get scheduled.
  2. Your regular vet can definitely do evaluation, it would be less expensive than surgical specialist or me,  they can likely see you faster, and they can do xrays and joint taps if they feel it is needed. What they can’t do is more extensive testing, physical therapy techniques like manipulation to test meniscal cartilage and to get meniscal cartilage in place, but could do laser. They may or may not be able to do surgery if needed. Also you’d have to take frankie to them.
  3. I can evaluate, but I’m not certain if I can make it out there faster.  I will re-evaluate my schedule and let you know by Monday. It’s unlikely that I will have help if I come before may 15th so it would be strictly evaluation, massage, manipulation, and laser.  I can’t do diagnostic tests other than hands on evaluation.

 

My recommendation: if by Monday I cannot guarantee making it out there faster (or if you want diagnostic test capability or need to save money) would be to have your regular vet evaluate him to make sure it’s not something more serious requiring more than rehab 

Okay....me....Sally again.   I looooove the idea of PRP (PRT.?).....and maybe a brace....

Petra.....that plasma stuff spunds like something  I'd like to try for my bone on bone knees .....and torn Achilles. ...and shoilder.....and feet.....okay, you get the point!!!  Blind Nurse Myrtle  may have her paws full taking care of us!!🤣🤣

AND loading him up on Tram and Gaba and Rimadyl(I do want to be cautious with that though) He's hurting, so I keep tweaking.  We'll get it right.

O,ay.....you've  heard enough from this end to bore you silly!    IF you don't  near from me tomorrow, its  because so couldn't  get into regular Bet.pretty sure that'll work me in if at all possible.

With all my heart,I love and appreciate you all, more than I xould EVER express!!..i know each of you are going through your own challenges.  To  make time to support us like you jave just blows my mknd.....and fills my jeart💖💖💖💖💖💖

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!



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Hi Sally,

No doubt she can do the evaluation without you lugging him across town. There's a test they do with the knee, they can feel it without xraying and know if it's torn. 

Flying home tomorrow night, will keep you all in my prayers.

Big hugs

Xoxoxox

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Sally

you know each and every one of us holds you in our prayers! Frankie is in good hands with you my love and Merry way-cool Myrtle has both of your backs!winkerKeep us updated and cuddles all around!

Love ya!

Petra, Stewie and his snoozing Kittens

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YAY!!!!   Okay, she's  coming Tuesday morning at 9:30 .  Squeezing me in so it'll be quick.   At least it's  a starting point!!   Guesing he may still need xrays.

The not-so-great-condition  of his other two legs is more apparent now  as he tries to compensate.  It's  clear everything that has happened in his wild and crazy life has taken a toll on him.

We'll see what new adventures await is tomorrow! Yippee flippin' skippee🤣

Will update as soon as possible. 

Love to you all❤

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!



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Sally, sugar bun 🦋

Your rehab girl is coming tomorrow !!!

Gosh, that's the kind of news we all want to hear ☺️ whoohooooo !!!!

You're right, that's a starting point, a good starting point !

Update as soon as you can, sweetie, and try to keep Frankie quiet (easier said than done, for sure ...)

Sending you tons of hugs and cuddles 💞💞💞 🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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OK that explanation makes sense Sally, thank you for sharing her convo with you. Many dizzying options but right now it sounds like a good plan to wait for her eval and take it from there. I'm thrilled you get to see her on TRIPAWD TUESDAY! That's got to be a good sign right? YES! Please keep us posted. xoxo

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And yet another update!   Just got another email  from Dr Wheedle.   She espressed rwo concerns (the second  concern was about getting him safely in and  out of car)   

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One is that he is so painful that he’s not getting up and  more that he’s biting his leg.  I’ve never seen a dog bite his leg with meniscal injury, and I’m getting more suspicious that there is infection or the crimp used to hold the suture in place is loose (which would require removal but not necessarily replacement). So I’m starting to think that there is a high likelihood that he will need rads and a joint tap.  However, we can’t be certain of this until examined.

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Her other concern about getting  him  nto he car was because  I've  gone ahead and set up an appt with regular  Bet immediately  after we're  done.  I knew we were headed yowards an xray, so regular Vet is squeezing  him in .She did the surgery.

Of course,until the  two appoinments are done,, everything is just guessing. 

So, let's  hope TRIPAWD TUESDAY  has some magical powers 😎😎😎

Lots of love to all!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Sally, everyone here has fingers and paws crossed!

Sending love and pawsitive energy!

XOXO,

Amy & Angel Izzy

Momma to the world's most beautiful American Bulldog, Izzy!! Lost her front leg to OSA 9/18/15. Diagnosed w MCT in June 2016. Celebrated her 1 year ampuversary with knee surgery on 9/18/16! MCT recurrence in Dec 2016. Happy & hungry til nearly 14, earning her wings on 7/31/17.



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Oh Sally, I hope 🙏🙏🙏 that this is going to be something simple and easy to fix! 

Just sliding into Lexington now... I think it's safe to say you got all prayers, fingers, toes, and paws crossed for you!!!

Love ya ❤️ Tuesday is going to work it's magic ❤️🌺❣️🌺❤️

Hugs,

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Sally Tripawds Tuesday holds a little promise for everyone! Prayers are with you that tomorrow brings some pawsitive news!!! 💞🙏 💞

Sending much love and massive hugs! Keeping you in my thoughts tomorrow and I will check in on news after my road trip.

Petra, Smoochable Stewie and his adorable Kittens

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We are all of us waiting with you, Sally, and hoping against hope for positive news. The Angels are working their magic too....

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Sending so much love,

Meg, Clare and Angel Pie xxx

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Yaaay Dr. Wheedle & your vet can squeeze Frankie in!

Tripawd Tuesday magic is already working! Ditto Prayers and PAWSITIVE thoughts for today.

We are thinking of you will check in this evening, update whenever you can!

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Lots of love❤️❤️❤️🙏

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Sending all the positive energy the Universe has to offer today along with my own love and prayers Sally!  However this all plays out remember we're family and family sticks together!  We are all walking along side of you!  We are all Team Frankie!  Also Team Myrtle and Team Sally 😉  Actually we are Team Holladay!  Love you my friend!  Keep us posted.



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Sally, sweetheart 🌻

Me, Angel Eurydice and Angel Happy Hannah are sending you all the pawsitive energy we can master, alongside all other tripawdians 💕💕💕

Well said Linda: we are Team Holladay indeedy ✊🏼

Lots and lots of hugs, kisses and cuddles flying your way 😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹 

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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