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Thank you both for the information. 

Bender means the world to me and I want to ensure he is comfortable.

His x-ray also looked very grim. Multiple mets, varied in size (some very large).

He started to exhibit a cough almost five weeks ago. He was pretty much himself up until last week (before the x-rays).

The vet gave us a similar prognosis and he is declining daily. I hope the pred breathes life into him. I am so fearful of making things worse because of the side effects.

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Can your vet increase the cortisone dosage? 

I was also fearful of cortisone because I know it is a powerful medicine that should not be taken lightly.

But my vet said “the drugs are what is keeping Eurydice with you” and “we can increase the dosage if it is better for her”.

You can always stop cortisone if Bender develops side effects, no?

I would ask my vet whether a higher dose will make a difference.

Does he have fluid in his lungs? 

Could that be the cause of his caughing? 

If so, is he on diuretics to dry up the fluid?

Thinking about you both, sweetie 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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He starts the prednisone on Sunday morning. 

Need to flush out the metacam for 48 hours. No sign of fluid on his last x-ray. Not sure of some has accumulated since (hope not).

The vet didn’t think there was value in starting a steriod but I eventually won them over. 

Praying it helps and he doesn’t go further down hill before it can work

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Sorry to hear you have not started cortisone yet … I thought you had started last Sunday although it did surprise me he would not have improved enormously by now.

Is waiting to flush out Metacam absolutely necessary?

Did the vet explained what would happen if he started straight away vis a vis not flushing Metacam completely? 

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Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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I’m glad you were able to get the prednisone going on. We tried it when mets started affecting Jerry, and although we didn’t like the side effects on him, it has helped many dogs through this time. See:

Prednisone and Dog Cancer Tips

Also, be sure to check out this Tripawds Nutrition blog post:

How to Help Coughing From Lung Mets

Sending lots of of hugs & pawsitivity to you and Bender the marvelous super dog! 

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Thank for the links. 

Jerry do you have much information about palladia?

The Oncologists also mentioned this as a potential option. I am worried about the chemo because we are expecting (he always gets sick during big life events).

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Yes Palladia is an option for sure. As you can see from these Forum search results we’ve had lots of members use it at different stages of their cancer journey, some with success, some without. One of the biggest Palladia success stories was Izzy.

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Hi guys,

I don’t have any words of wisdom, you are getting info from the best people! I just wanted you to know that you’re in my thoughts and i am keeping the faith that Bender will get relief and lots more quality time. Cheering you on and sending comfort and healing wishes.

Bender, you truly are a special boy!!

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Jackie and Huck ❤️

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Last night was Bender’s first night without Metacam in 12 months and he did not do very well. He was pacing most of the night and moaning a lot.  He also did not want to eat this morning to get up from treats. 

I am not sure that he can wait the recommended washout period of even 48 hours.  I might have to stick with Metacam.

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JERRY….ANYBODY…..Jerry just posted something  on a reply to someone  that no wash out time, or very kittle washout time, was needed.  I’ve  always  been told about four days too, but apparently  there is new information  sayinf that’s  not necessary.

So in the meantime,  double check with the Vet and see if it’s  safe to go ahead and give it to him.

Hang on….some body will find the post!

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I tried searching for some studies that suggest a smaller washout period was acceptable but could not find anything. 

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I don’t know if this is it… Looking

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Thanks Jackie…lots of good information. I did a quick glance but didn’t  see anything regarding  the washout period.

But what I’m  trying to find is a reply Jerry made…probably  within the last two weeks…saying you didn’t  need a washout period.  The reason it stood out to me, was I had posted to make sure there was a four of five day period inbetween switching.  She followed up with a post saying  that was no longer necessary.  If that’s  the case, Bender could really benefit.

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Hey there! Sorry we were driving all morning. Sorry to hear about Bender.

What Wyatt’s vet said was he would be ok with a 1 or 2 day washout period depending on the Dog and that was only in reference to switching between 2 different NSAIDs. Sorry it wasn’t more applicable.

What about some other temporary pain relief med?

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He doesn’t do well with any of the narcotics.  Even with his amputation we had to stop tramadol after the first night. 

It has been 48 hours since his last dose of metacam, I am going to start the pred tonight. I don’t want to see him slide further into the abyss. 

Fingers crossed that it works. 

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