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hi everyone

I have a westie Hamish who had his leg amputated in March, his back leg following a cancer diagnosis.

He has been doing so so well, even the vets were amazed at how quickly he recovered.

9 days ago I found Hamish panting in the garden and he wouldn’t put any weight on the remaining back lack, so wouldn’t walk. We’ve had X-rays done and there is no tumour or break, but they suspect it’s acute arthritis.

He’s had 9 days of rest now and sadly no improvement. The next step would possibly be Femoral head and neck excision surgery.

Has anyone gone through a similar operation for their dog post amputation? How was the recovery? What was the outcome?

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28 August 2018 - 8:39 am
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Hi and welcome. We are sorry to hear about your pup. What’s his name? Age?  Is he on any pain medication right now?

To answer your question: yes, we have had many members’ dogs go through surgery on a remaining limb. I’ll share some links in a sec but first, has your veterinarian referred you to rehab therapy for him? Nine days is not a long time to decide that surgery is the way to go. And sometimes surgery can be avoided through rehabilitation therapy. Before jumping to surgery I would absolutely get an opinion from a certified canine rehabilitation therapist. The best part is the Tripawds Foundation may pay for your first rehab visit , so click on the links for details.

Now about those links, here are some articles that will give you hope, should surgery be necessary:

What to Know About Remaining Limb Surgery on a Tripawd

Remaining Limb Surgery Recovery for Tripawds

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28 August 2018 - 8:46 am
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Are you sure it’s not just muscle pain?  Tripawds walk differently than they ever did before, so they are using different muscles, or using muscles in different ways than before.  Murphy was a front leg tripawd and we often gave him back/shoulder/hip massages to help with his back pain.  A couple of times he had some very severe neck pain – pain that had him yelping out and had me scared that something was seriously wrong!  Try some massage and maybe a  pain pill for a day or two (Relafen, Carprofen or another NSAID) and definitely try a visit with a rehab vet.  You would be surprised at how much of a difference that can make.  I wish we had started that much sooner than we did.  We learned some great exercised for Murphy that helped to stretch his back/neck and to restore some of his core strength.

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Murphy had his right front leg amputated due to histiocytic sarcoma at 7 years old.  He survived 4 years, 2 months & 1 week, only to be taken by hemangiosarcoma at 11 1/2 years 6/12/17  

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28 August 2018 - 9:14 am
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Hi both

Thanks for your quick replies.

Hamish is 11 (although people consistently are amazed at how old he is as he acts and looks a lot younger!)

He’s been on tramadol and liquid paracetamol for 9 days now, he was also admitted for two days to give him some IV painkillers. With sadly no improvement. He did today put some weight on it to wee, which I’m hoping is a sign of improvement but trying not to get my hopes up.

We’ve taken him to see a specialist orthapedic vet, who has made the conclusion about arthritis and has said he is sceptical it will recover on its own. We’ve got a follow up appointment in a week to see how he is, and to discuss next steps.

its heartbreaking, feel so stressed about it, I’ve barely eaten since it happened.

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28 August 2018 - 2:04 pm
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Did you notice any soreness or lameness before the episode in the garden?  I had a quad-Pug with terrible arthritis (all 4 legs and her back) and her pain and stiffness worsened over time.  Tani was diagnosed at 6 years old and we started with joint supplements, by the time she turned 14 she was on quite a few supplements and meds that kept her comfortable (including fish oil, glucosimine, rimadyl, gabapentin, adequan).

Murphy’s Story may be in one of the links Jerry gave you above but I wanted to be sure you saw it.  Murph was hit by a car and lost a back leg, then had a Total Hip Replacement (THR). 

HERE is The First Forum Post about Murphy

HERE is a Link to Murphy’s YouTube Channel. Lots of videos of his recovery and rehab after hip surgery.

Unfortunately Murphy Crossed the Bridge a few years ago after developing cancer. His mom Kathi posts as murphsmom (click on that link for her forum posts) send her a PM if you want.

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Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

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29 August 2018 - 9:12 am
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Hi Karen.

Nothing in particular noticed before, which is why it’s come as such a shock.

Thanks for posting Murphy’s story, that gives me some hope.

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29 August 2018 - 9:35 am
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I’m in the Tripawds Chat right now if you want to talk. 

Keep in mind that orthopedic specialists know surgery best, it’s what they do, so when something appears wrong that will be their first conclusion, to fix it with surgery. A rehab therapist will look at the whole picture and see if avoiding surgery is possible. We have seen that oftentimes it is. We can help you find one in your area if you’d like.

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29 August 2018 - 12:24 pm
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Thanks for your support Jerry, hugely appreciated.

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I want ro second fetting ab appointment  with a Rehab specialist  if possible.

I’m  owned by an adopted tripawd whi jad cruciate repair surgery  done on one of his remaining  back legs in December  2017.  I know how frightened  you must be as you try to navigate  through the possibility  of surgery.  It can be daunting.

One thing that jumps out at me is the suddenness with how this happened.  I’m  certainly  not a Vet, but generally  arthritis  isa bit more gradual and with warning signs. Also, arthritis  shows up on xrays si ot should have been clear…I think  anyway.

Has a cruciate knee injury been ruled out, as well as meniscus injury?  My experience  has been that a really good Rehab Specialist  can determine  this through manipulation  and range of motion exercises.   

So yeah, I hope you will check j ti ab appointment  with a Rehab Specialist.   3ven IF this is arthritis, a Rehab may have options to try first.  Mh tripawd I mentioned  above has arthritis and a  Rehab Specialist  today wants him  on Advance Dasuqun. Adequan Injections. tramadol and/or Gabapentin,  would like to do laser treatments, Galliprant, and a couple  of other ssuggestions.  So while your Vet prescribed  pain meds, as you can see, there are definitely  other options to be considered  to help Hamish feel better…..and walk better!!

Deep breaths…stay connected…keep checking  out options!

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30 August 2018 - 2:33 am
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Thanks for your reply.

How did the surgery go? What was it like getting him back in three legs?

The vets that have examined him have found no discomfort anywhere other than the hip.

I have looked into laser treatment but believe because he was diagnosed with osteosarcoma he shouldn’t have it? 

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Hi, I met you in chat yesterday….I don’t know that I’ve ever heard that you couldn’t have laser treatment on a dog with osteo. I could be wrong, but I’m sure others will chime in. Hoping you get some definitive answers, and a recovery plan soon.

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I have looked into laser treatment but believe because he was diagnosed with osteosarcoma he shouldn’t have it?   

Some practitioners will, some will not. We discussed this in our interview with Dr. Amy Kramer:

Laser Therapy to help with incision healing. “If the diagnosis was some form of cancer, we don’t always use laser, just for the fear of that maybe causing increased blood flow to the area and if there is still some cancer, we don’t want to help that spread,” explains Dr. Kramer.

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Thanks Paula and Jerry.

I reached out to my local vet who said laser is unlikely to help but worth a shot given the situation, my orthapedic vet said it may help and has recommended it. Disappointing I’ve had to suggest it myself to them without them suggesting it. Willing to give anything a shot at this point. Have ordered some joint supplements as well but probably too late for that now. Going to ask tomorrow about catrophen or adequan injection.

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Also ask about ADVANCED Dasuquan.  Unlike regular Dasuquan, it is a prescription  from the Vet.

Are you able to get an appointment  with a Rehab Specialist??   It  may be  that hydrotherapy  may help too.  Frankie’s Rehav Vet suggested  laser also.

You asked how Frankie did after his surgery. The cruciate  surgery is not the same as what your pup may ve facing (hopefully not), but I imagine recovery  is similar.  Keep in mind, this is just my experience  so take ot for whatever it’s worth.  RECOVERY  WAS HARD, REALLY, REALLY HARD!  IF you have help, another person living  in the household,  that helps greatly!!  Frankie is a strong willed approximately 70 lb determined  dog.   I’m  no Spring Chicken and it was just myself.  The first part of recovery  takes a lot pf helping the dog walk with a harness, a lot of good pain management AND a lot of good Rehabilitation  consults.  IF you are a two person household, it can be an easier ordeal. 

Good for uoj fot checki g oit sll options.   And it may be that surgery 3nds up being a good choice.  Or it may be that less invasive optio s work out also and just need some time.

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30 August 2018 - 1:31 pm
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Great, thank you.

at the moment Hamish isn’t walking at all, so I think recovery will be just as hard, I’ve been on my own for two weeks and he’s been super hard, luckily the other two are back from holiday tonight so there are three of us to help so should spread the load. He’s getting very skilled already at walking around on two front feet when I turn my back, so worse case scenario I think he’ll do well in a wheelchair , as a last resort!

Physio/rehab is ringing me tomorrow to schedule an appointment to assess Hamish and talk about laser therapy. 

Feeimg very positive today and a big part of that has been all of your input, thank you very much.

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