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OH my dog what a great video, thank you Meg, Elsie Pie and Clare! I’ve no doubt this will keep Frankie inspired to get back to 100 pawcent. Great song too! LOVE IT! clap

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Brilliant most excellent job clapclapMeg and Miss Pie & Mum for assisting!
I loved seeing this we can see who Frankie is better Cool & smooch-able lovable dog

Sally you guys got this and we will be sending mega strength love and support thru the universe for tomorrow ! Saying prayers all goes well and for a uneventful smooth recovery ! Frankie you listen to Mom ok! REST IS BEST!

Update us when you can please. I will be watch for a update. Life is crazy but I’ll get here!

We think Frankie needs some ice-cream for recovery 🍦just saying stock up on some goodies for you & supportive Merry Myrtle!

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Oh no, Sally!  Poor Frankie.  I haven’t been on for a while and just now seeing this.  I know how scary it is.  Remember my 80 lb Daisy blew her knew and had to have it repaired.

Like you there was no way I could afford TPLO.  Here in my part of the world the procedure runs about $3,000 with no guarantees and can only be done by board certified surgeons.

My vet has done a lot of the lateral suture stabilizations with good success so I opted for that route given Daisy’s activity level.  Just had to keep Daisy from running wild for about 2 months — not that she did that anyways 🙂

I will say that Daisy’s knee surgery/recovery for me was waaaay worse than her amputation.  (Well you probably remember all my panicking posts here).  Not saying that to scare you but so you will be prepared.  Hang in there!

Lots of love to you, Frankie, Merry Myrtle and that big giant Angel Happy Hannah.

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Hey Sally can you please start a new topic about Frankie’s surgery in Hopping Around? That way we can limit this discussion to any questions you have for Dr. Pam? Thanks!

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THANK YOU EVERYONE!!

DR PAM!   THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT!!  HEARING HOW WELL ATHENA IS DOING HELPED A GREAT DEAL!! ‘Give her a vig smooch for me!!   You are absolutely invaluable to is here and we appreciate your time and expertise more than you caould knowheart

FRANKIE IS OUTT OF SURGERY AS I TYPE THIS FOR CRE SURFERY

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I know you have your hands full with Athena,  along with everything  else in your day to day life.  Whenever  you have a second  to read this, I’d appreciate  any suggestions.

To just catch you up Pam, Frankie almost certainly  has meniscus issue in same leg as cruciate surgery….and it most likely…almost certainly, started a vit ago and has worsened  speetty speetty drastically as of this morning.  

You can tap the link above to catch up, but basically fluid tap was done.  xray was done, surgery  site holding well and their was no infection from fluid.  This was a couple of months ago.  

Proceeded with Rimadyl, a wing and a prayer, knowing  it was most likely  meniscus, but hoping for a tweak.   He did “okay”, but not fully restored like a “tweak” would be.

This morning he  comes in after potty holding that leg up and walking on two again.  Gave him a Gaba and rushed him to Vet.

Xray and manual check showed cruciate  surgery  still holding.  They don’t  do cat scans or mri, not that I could afford it anyway.  Pretty sure now it’s  meniscus and not a tweak.

So right now I have a two legged dog (whose remaining  two legs are not as strong as they were before all this cruciate crap started).

Not that it matters, but in reading  stuff after first surgery   it says that some Vets remove some, or part of meniscus when doing cruciate repair  surgery.   Obviously  this was  not the case with Frankie.   I do recall the Vet saying after surgery  that “the good news is is meniscus  looks good.”  Again, doesn’t  matter now. but would like your input on that if you don’t  mind.

Is a stabilizing  brace an option?  Are there ANY options for a three legged dog as far as meniscus  injury  on the same darn leg as cruciate  surgery and with arthritis and hip dysplasia?  Obviously  “conservative  management” didn work.  Quite Frankly,  there is nothing  conservative  about anything  Frankie does and I will always feel guilty  that I couldn’t  restrict/restrain him properly  on my own.  

This is breaking  my heart.

Gratefully, 

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

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Oh no! Sally I am sorry to read this. What did The vets suggest? How is he doing? Is he doped up?

Please do not feel like any of this is your fault, you are doing your absolute best and then some!!! You are a super duper doggy momma!!!!

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OH boy Sally.  I am sorry Frankie tore the Menscius.  You are a great doggy mom and we know how hard it is to confine Mr. Frankie. 

I hope Dr. Pam has some suggestions.

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Thanks Rene and Michelle ❤  And not exactly “guilt”.  Just regret that I’m  not in a better place at this point in my life to handle him by myself and give him the strong support he needs.  All the best gear in the world (and I have it thanks to all of you), doesn’t  help if the “operator ” isn’t  strong enough to lift, guide, control,   etc

Vet felt like the only thing she could offer…Gaba, Tram, highest dose of Rimadyl, confinement,  etc

Left message for Vet who did his surgery (same hospital, she was out yesterday) looking  for suggestions.

The one xray was done to basically  confirm no fractures  and cruciate still holding.  He wasn’t  under anesthesia.  Trying to explain this right.  Where the meniscus  would be (obviously  not showing  up because  cartilage,  right?), there was an “indication “of fluid.  The xray angle was from the front of his leg as opposed to hum sprawled out, if that makes since.  I think that’s  what she said she saw.  Anyway,  she compared  the earlierr xray when they did the fluid tap with this one, andnyou could see that the outline of the fluid had gotten bigger.

I did ask her if she had ever operated  on a tripawd on the same leg as cruciate to remove a meniscus  successfully.   Answer  was not surprising…NO!

Again, guess none lf that matters.  I’m  sure that’s  what it is.  Once the meniscus  started to be an issue, I guess I knew this day would come.  Frankie is THE strongest  willed dawg I have ever encountered and has  not giving  up, so I’m  not giving  up!

Hoping Pam has some suggestions. 

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Sally, I am just catching up as well, oh my, after reading about M.M., now poor Frankie is having awful problems with his leg….. I surely know nothing about these problems personally, but I agree with Rene and Michelle, Frankie couldn’t possibly have a better mom than you, and you and him, and M.M. for that matter, have all the support in the world from so many of us. Frankie is an amazing pup, he will get through this like the trooper he is ❤️💙🐾

Much love and {{{hugs}}} to you, and I will continue to check back in on you, Frankie, and Merry Myrtle 💞

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Sally, to handle everything being thrown at you and then still come here and encourage others just proves how amazing you truly are. You’re the absolute best mom Frankie and Myrtle could ever ask for. I’m sorry that life doesn’t seem to want to give you a break, but it knows you can handle any and everything. 

Hoping for the best for you and Frankie and Myrtle. 

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Oh Sally! So sorry to hear this! I don’t even know what to say, other than you are the greatest mom ever to your furkids. Is there any chance it will get better with time and (ahem…) rest? His strong will is for sure a plus in this case. Prayers for the best outcome for him. Hugs!

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I am soooo hoping there is a way to bring down that fluid built-up! Hang in there Sally and Frankie, we are all sending love and healing wishes for an easy solution.

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Thank you everybody!!! Trust me, I feel your love and your support…and that translates to good pawsitive  healing  energy for COOL DAWG SUPER HERO FRANKIE…and it makes me feel more empowered  too!

Okay, the “original ” Vet who did the surgery  said:

……The xray would not show if the cruciate  failed.  The other Vet dis the “drawer test” and didn’t  feel any slippage, just lots of scar tissue.  Scar tissue is good because  it holds the bones in  place.  So could not that out as possibility…but doubtful.

……She coild go in and open to knee back up for definate disgnosis and if meniscus  could do the surgery st that point.   Easy surgery but not necessarily  easy  recovery.   Just in general and sort of an off the cuff comment,  she did say that  when doing a second surgery  on the same leg it didn’t  always go well.  And that was referencing  four leggers I’m  sure.

…….Said  maybe I could go,to Ortho Specialist  and maybe they could  go in orthroscopic…whatever the word is….and check him lut that way???

……Said for comfort I could  do a steroid injection  in knee…but would be for comfort only. It promotes arthritis  and interferes  with inflammation  needed for “healing” if healing  is a possibility. 

…….Said I could continue with Rimadyl at highest dose and pain pills and rest and see if there is any improvement  in the next week.  (Confused…..Rimadyl …will interfere  with “healing” too because  it takes down inflammation???)

…….I did reference  her back to the meniscus  looking good at original  surgery.  Her comment…again off the cuff….sometimes she wished it didn’t  look good because  then she could do surgery  on it at that ttime too.   How I wished……

…..Asked about a stabilizing  brace…said she didn’t  know, maybe a possibility. 

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So in the end you absolutely certainly got a totally not definitive, formally vague cloudy answer that totally really didn’t answer your questions very well *sigh*  This gets a firm 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 “why bother asking” response from your heart headed friend who is feeling a bit protective of her friend right now.

I am so sorry… something’s got to give here, it’s not fair!! If it were for certain that Frankie would be will again and it would be a successful procedure then you would jump on it, but i feel like she didn’t have the nerve to really come out and tell you that she would not recommend this either because, 1. It won’t work, or 2. She’s out of her league. 

I love ya Sally, if there was something i could do to help you know i would be so over it… so would everybody else in here for that fact. Those answers don’t even tell you if you should get a second opinion, and then you deal with a whole new can of worries. 

Maybe looking into trying to stabilize his leg would be the safest, more affordable, and easier to manage him by yourself means of approach. Maybe it will help support his remaining legs and give him stability. If there’s anything i can do to help you know how to reach me.

Jackie ❤️❤️

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