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I'm also wondering if you plan to contact one of the pain management vets near you....they might be able to solve this riddle. Good Luck!

Paula

Nitro 11 1/2  yr old Doberman; right front amp June 2014. Had 6 doses carboplatin, followed by metronomic therapy. Rocked it on 3 legs for over 3 years! My Warrior beat cancer, but couldn't beat old age. He crossed the Bridge peacefully on July 25, 2017, with dignity and on his terms.  Follow his blog entitled "Doberman's journey"

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9 July 2018 - 12:35 pm
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Paula you just sent me goosebumps all over when i read that. Literally...

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9 July 2018 - 1:22 pm
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Well said Paula❤❤    Good perspective and insight!!

Yes, Rene, ot was Ollie's story I'd  referenced.   Thank you for pulling it up.  '

Agree with Paula  about the consistency  in the pain meds and about easily  overdoing  it early on.  You did have a consistent dose going on that seemed to be working.  Were you still maintaining  that when this pain flared up??

Many, many dogs need to stay on some form of pain meds several months  after surgery.  Humans  are no different.   Some dogs  don't  require a maintenance  level, some  dogs do.  Some people dont require a maintenance  level, some people do.  All brains react differently  to pain and a threshold  that's  tolerable.  Pain meds are a great invention and can provide  great quality!!

Ao glad you are comfortable  expressing  how you feel here!!  We get it!!  The thingnis, try and keep your frustration  (well deserved  frustration) from escalating  beyond what's real and true!

What's  real and true is there is an underlying root cause (as Cashew and others  said) that has yet to be properly  addressed!!  That's  the reality!!  NOT  all the scenarios  you have created to beat yourself up over!!! 

You are understandably  fearful and exhausted amd uncertain  and impatient!  Again, we  understand  and that is not "wrong" to have all those feelings under the circumstances, not at all!!

Those feelings  are of no value  to you though!!   They  keep you from focusing  on everything  that IS good right now!!!  They keep you focused  on everything  negative and they keep you from being  dully present and upbeat with Blitz!!

You have some hurdles without question!  Seeing dogs in pain is beyond awful!!  

Vlotz is relying  on yoi to stay focused  in solutions.   Blitz needs you to stay focused  on the fact that he IS having many moments of joy pain free!!  Blitz is a WARRIOR.....AND SO ARE YOU!!!!!  Make no mistake  about it, as down in the dumps as you might feel sometimes (and again  understandably  so), you have shown INCREDIBLE  STRENFTH AND FORTITUDE!!!

Now, qith all of us by your side, jump into a state of empowerment  and let's  get this hurdle over and done with, okay??   Let's  visualize  more and more GOOD TIMES!!  Visualize  and feel them!! 

No more second guessing our friend.  No more beating our  friend up.   No more giving  energy to thoughts that disempower you and keep you stuck in a state of regret!

We are Blitz's Army and we are helping  uou  lead the charge to get this handled!!!   Again, keep him on the meds that were working  for now.  If he has another episode..VIDEO IT!!  Post it here.  Send it to your Vet.  Send to the Surgeon.  

TEAM BLITZ ON THE MARCH!!!!!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

And yes, in Ollie's case the Surgeon  did have to go back in,  vut it was a fairly minor surgery. 

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9 July 2018 - 5:11 pm
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Yes there was another too that just had to have the area debrided and a couple of extra sutures. I'm trying to remember who it was but there was a night and day difference after.

Big hugs and positive warm wishes

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I am sorry I am late replying.  Everyone is giving good advice.  Hang in there.  Yes, Ollie was the one I have been thinking about as well.   I know this is really hard and do not beat yourself up.  You have been doing what you can do.  Some dogs take longer to be weaned off pain meds.

I would seriously have another vet evaluate what is going on though.  Maybe a fresh set of eyes and ears about the problem can come up with a good solution.

Hang in there

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Blitz Postop 4 wks & 1 day. Thanks so much everyone. Today Blitz will try acupuncture once again. This time the focus will be neurological vs pain. We are hoping this will better address the phantom pain . Yesterday as the afternoon progressed Bitz seemed better for about 2 hours. Tail wagging and wanted to go outside. We walked to the backyard and for about an hour he was a pretty happy dog. But it did not last long. Soon after, he was biting at his missing leg and crying out. 

Has anyone heard of mirror therapy for amputees? It is a method used for veteran amputees and with much success I might add. I wonder if it has a potential for our canine friends. Tricks the brain into thinking the leg is still there and somehow reduces or even eliminates phantom pain  Mirror Therapy for Amputees      

Wish us luck for with our acupuncture today.

Thanks so much for all you do!! big-blink

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Good luck Carol and Blitz!!!  I'm glad you had another bit of time to see him relaxing even if it was brief.

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I’m hopeful this time goes really well with acupuncture. Fingers and paws crossed.  I’m just wondering though if he was walking for an hour in the yard? Is that too much? Or were you just out for a bit and then he was fine for the hour? I’m not sure...I’m going to look into the mirror therapy though ...sounds fascinating! 

Cashew, “ShuShu”, stray shot in Armenia (where this is sport!).  Lost left forelimb at 4-6 mos. old as a result of GSW. Adopted at 19 mos. in May 2018. Currently Working hard at PT. 

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So aomethng seemed to help yesterday for a little bit yesterday, so that was good!    Do you think being back on the pain meds consistently  helped, at least for awhile?

Don't  mean to be asking so many questions, but we're  all just trying to support you as best we can.  So here we go.

You referenced  pahantom pain again,  so I DO hope he is on Gabapentin consistently, right?.    So crucial. 

Have you made of video yet of these episodes??

Have you researched  to see if any Pain Specialist are available, at least for a consult by phone if not in person?

Have you thought any further about having Blitz checked for the nerve issue in the incision  area??  If not with that Surgeon, perhaps  another one?  I so hipenuoj can do that.    At lesst that could eliminate that as a cause.  And if it is the cause, itm s sooooo fixable and Blitz will be the happiest  dog evvver...all the time!!!   Of there is anything  we can do to help facilitate  tjat inquiry,  please let us know.  I know a video would be very helpful  to a surgeon.

PLEASE,  PLEASE  make sure the Acupuncturist is FULLY aware of the traumatic  pain Blitz  went through  after the other visit.   IF...IF...there is an exposed nerve issue as we've  mentioned  and as you've  seen in Ollie's thread. it seems the needles would NOT be a good idea.  But perhaps this visit will work.  Certainly  hope so.

You know  we are all here  supporting  eveything you do and only throw out stuff to try and help.....no  matterr how whacky it may be!!

Love qnd hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

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Update when you  can on magnificent  Blitz❤

If you haven't  had a chance to se this, just know that the site will be down for maintenance starting Thursday  morning and lasting  anywhere  from 4 to 36 hours!  

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The TRIPAWDS HELPLINE  1 844 TRIPAWD will still be available,  as will the chat room (see the link I posted). I know you have contact  our beloved fellow Dobie pal (and Westie pal) Paula.  So we're  all still here for you in one way or another❤

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Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Hey Carol - just wondering how things are going for Blitz and you.

Paula

Nitro 11 1/2  yr old Doberman; right front amp June 2014. Had 6 doses carboplatin, followed by metronomic therapy. Rocked it on 3 legs for over 3 years! My Warrior beat cancer, but couldn't beat old age. He crossed the Bridge peacefully on July 25, 2017, with dignity and on his terms.  Follow his blog entitled "Doberman's journey"

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Blitz-post op nearing 5 weeks

Thanks so much everyone. I was almost afraid to give an update because everytime I post how well is doing and that MAYBE we have turned the corner, he has a relapse for days. BUT we are doing much better. 

The day of his acupuncture session, like the time before, he was having an awesome day. Bright eyed, playing, hopping around, grabbing his ball, and obviously no discomfort. Because of this I almost cancelled the acupuncture. I wanted to know if he would continue to improve without it. But he DID have the session. The focus this time was on phantom issues vs pain control so the needles were placed differently than before. Once the needles were placed he seemed frightened, and the phantom cry returned for a time or two while at the vets and then again that evening, but certanily not like the last time. The vet seemed to think it was the redirction of the energy channels causing the discomfort, and that would be shortlived. I am still not so sure acupuncture is Blitz's thing. The rest of his day was OK, but not as nice as before the acupuncture. But then again it was getting late in the day and that is his usual time for discomfort if he is going to have any.   

This week we weaned him from the Amantadine. Last dose yesterday morning. As you know, both Garbapentin and Amantadine  cause some mobility "wobbliness". For Blitz, having both on board seemed to be interfering with the strength he needs in the rest of his body resulting in back, neck, and other muscle/leg strains. It will be interesting to see how he does. I will keep you posted.

Thursday he was started on Shen Calmer by Jing Tang. 8 capusles once a day, for 5 days then moving on to 2x daily. It is not cheap and like the acupuncture it will be hard to judge if it is working because he was already improving without it. It was something the vet ordered for us when things were not going so well and it took over a week to come in. So we will use up the first bottle and then see how things go. He is now taking the Gabapentin 300 q8h, Carprophen 75 q12, Shen Calmer once daily,  and his antibiotic which should finish up this week. Next the vet would like to wean him from the Carprophen. I will attempt this next week if I am comfortable he is continuing to improve. We can always add it back if needed.

This morning we continue to do well. His eyes are sparkling, tail wagging, playing with his ball, and chewing his toy bone. His interaction with the family is pretty much back to normal, and life is pretty good. We do continue to have occassional phantom episodes, typically the evening time, but they are much less than before and seem to be getting less and less as the days/weeks pass.

I think for now I will not do another accupuncture session just to see if it actually made any difference. The vet states that most dogs respond after 2-4 sessions, but not one. So it might be safe to say we would have been fine without it. 

Thanks again to all of you for sticking with me. I am forever grateful for your support during this very challenging experience

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Carol and Blitz,

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the update!! You had a bunch of worried mama hens here. Even though it is on his schedule, instead of ours, I am so glad he is finally coming around.

You really are doing a great job. Blitz could not have a better, more selfless advocate.  It does seem that the phantom episodes are starting to wane from what you are describing. I am really interested to see how the Shen Calmer works, I have never heard of that before? 

This morning we continue to do well. His eyes are sparkling, tail wagging, playing with his ball, and chewing his toy bone. His interaction with the family is pretty much back to normal, and life is pretty good. 

That is just the best news!!  I was worried I would never see you say those words! It is also the nicest way to be able to say that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and with your diligence I have no doubt now that you will get there!

Big hugs!! 💞💞💞

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Seriously great news, that's so nice to know he's doing better!

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HIP HIP HOORAY FOR BLITZ!!!   😁

Thank you sooooo much for updating  us!   We were all holding  our collective  breath!   We all try and stay positive  when we don't hear back right away in cases like this, but we do worry.

No matter what, things are getting  better and the "set backs" are fewer.   Sparkling  eyes  and wagging tails are ahowing up more and more and we are all so thrilled!!clapclap

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