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Sophie Having a Tough Time
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22 June 2010 - 1:26 am
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Tana,

I couldn't let this fall through the cracks. So, I have made it into its own post.  Knowing our heavy hearts, you probably don't want to bring it to the forefront.  So, I did.

Cometdog -

 

 

Sophie had NO reaction to her first chemo treatment – really, nothing at all (carboplatin); mild – tired – appetite was off with the 2nd treatment (doxorubicin); but the 3rd treatment (back to carboplatin) has knocked the wind out of her sails. She is presently in the hospital for 2 days on IV fluids. She is dehydrated – and just plain sick. She has awful black diarrhea EVERYWHERE !! I've been carpet cleaning for 2 days (with a new carpet cleaner because my old one died) straight – and our house still smells really bad. She has not eaten anything – nadda – for over 3 days – and has not had anything to drink for the same. She has lost interest in living. I am hopeful that this hospital stay will bring her around to her usual self. We have decided to stop chemo treatment. We were never given any anti-nausea meds  when she HAD the surgery – and only got that on Thursday. She was vomiting before taking the Metaclop… whatever – but AFTER taking it – it was awful. She had pebbly / souply / tar black piles of poop everywhere, and was vomiting everywhere, too. She hasn't kept anything in her system for 3 full days. It is so difficult to see her like this. The look she gave me at the vets – when I lifted her head and looked in her eyes – well, I started crying – and I pretty much haven't stopped for the rest of the day.

 

Sophie (1998 – 2010)

"Going Dog" def: living every day in the moment

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."

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22 June 2010 - 11:01 pm
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What's the latest update?

Her Retired AvatarComet - 1999 to 2011

She departed us unexpectedly  January 23, 2011 at the age of 12 1/2.

She was born with a deformed front leg and a tripawd all of her life.

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22 June 2010 - 11:16 pm
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You're right - with so many losing their battles - it just seems trivial .... I still have my best friend. 

I got Sophie back from the hospital at about 4:30 today. She has 2 new meds to take - Cerenia (1 every 24 hours), and they also gave me Famotidine to give her every 12 hours. She has been resting quietly - no, not really quietly - she snores - and it is nice to hear. At least I know that she is more comfortable. And she wags her tail again. And - the most important thing, really, is that "the look" is gone from her eyes. 

She is licking a lot. And it seems more noisy than it used to. Maybe I'm just more attuned to her noises. Maybe she's still a bit dehydrated?

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to give the Cerenia on an empty stomach? Does it make much difference whether it is on an empty stomach or not? They didn't say at the vet's - and didn't seem to know when I asked them. The other drug is in place of the Pepcid - it's to coat her stomach.

So, we have a little more time, anyway. How much more? I don't know. We never know, do we?  

She was still hooked up to the IV when we went to get her, and she was sleeping. They had called me to come and get her - I assumed she was all ready to go. She came out of the back, hopping and looking quite disheveled - like she had slept on her hair the wrong way or something. She smells bad - and needs a bath badly. But I can deal with that. The carpets in my house still smell really bad, too. aw-shucks

No, we will not be continuing with chemo. I can't put her through anymore. This was scary enough - and I really didn't know if she would pull out of it or not. It made me question what I was doing - and who I was doing it for - it certainly didn't appear to be for her. After all, isn't this supposed to be all about her quality of life? This past week has not been quality. It has been existence. I am hopeful that we will move forward more comfortably now. 

Thanks, Cometdog.

Sophie (1998 – 2010)

"Going Dog" def: living every day in the moment

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."

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22 June 2010 - 11:22 pm
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I'm so sorry to hear about Sophie. Black, tarry stools in people can be a sign of GI bleeding, like an ulcer.  If her tummy hurts so much, that could explain loss of interest in food.  I hope she feels better after the IV fluids. Stopping chemo seems perfectly logical to me. Concentrate on making feel better, then worry about treatment options. I'd say no to most medications, except something to coat her stomach (like carafate) or an acid reducer. Please keep us posted.

 

Sadie is my 9yr old Rott/Shepherd mix. Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in her right scapula 1/28/10. Our brave girl had her amputation 2/13/10 and her last chemotherapy on 6/6/10. Unfortunately, a tumor appeared in her back right leg and on 10/7/2010 Sadie's earthly journey came to an end.  On 10/24/2010 we adopted Ranger, a handsome Rott/Lab mix tripawd (got hit by a car) I think Sadie sent him to us.
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22 June 2010 - 11:25 pm
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Famotidine is generic Pepcid, they're the same thing.  You might want to ask about carafate, it actually coats the stomach. Is she eating at all, or interested in food yet? Glad she's home!

Sadie is my 9yr old Rott/Shepherd mix. Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in her right scapula 1/28/10. Our brave girl had her amputation 2/13/10 and her last chemotherapy on 6/6/10. Unfortunately, a tumor appeared in her back right leg and on 10/7/2010 Sadie's earthly journey came to an end.  On 10/24/2010 we adopted Ranger, a handsome Rott/Lab mix tripawd (got hit by a car) I think Sadie sent him to us.
http://ranger.t.....pawds.com/

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22 June 2010 - 11:41 pm
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They told me that the Pepcid was what was making her have the tarry black stool. Why would they give me the same thing again? I'm going to phone them in the morning and ask them. She hasn't eaten since she came home at 4:30. They said she ate at the hospital.

Thanks. 

Tana

Sophie (1998 – 2010)

"Going Dog" def: living every day in the moment

"It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are."

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22 June 2010 - 11:56 pm
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If she's not drinking water either, try giving her an ice cube if she licks that, then at least she gets some fluid.  I'm not sure why pepcid would cause the tarry stool.  It shouldn't cause it in people, but I know dogs metabolize and react to medicine differently than we do.  For example, Metoclopramide (reglan) that Sophie had for nausea (so did Sadie), can cause diarrhea in people. I brought this up to the vet because although I didn't want Sadie to have nausea, I also didn't want her to have diarrhea, since the chemo can cause that too.  Anyway, the vet told me that in dogs, it doesn't usually cause diarrhea. Sadie never had either problem (thank goodness). He told me if she got diarrhea to give her canned pumpkin.  Anyway, call the vet in the AM, and have a peacfull night (snoring and all!)

Sadie is my 9yr old Rott/Shepherd mix. Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in her right scapula 1/28/10. Our brave girl had her amputation 2/13/10 and her last chemotherapy on 6/6/10. Unfortunately, a tumor appeared in her back right leg and on 10/7/2010 Sadie's earthly journey came to an end.  On 10/24/2010 we adopted Ranger, a handsome Rott/Lab mix tripawd (got hit by a car) I think Sadie sent him to us.
http://ranger.t.....pawds.com/

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23 June 2010 - 3:09 am
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Sending lots of good thoughts to you and Sophie.  Feel better soon, sweetheart.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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23 June 2010 - 7:35 am
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Oh, Sophie...hope you're feeling better today....gawd, how scarey...

Hugs to you,

Tracy, Maggie's Mom

Maggie was amputated for soft tissue sarcoma 10-20-09

Maggie lost her battle with kidney disease on 8-24-13

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23 June 2010 - 8:35 am
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sophie said:

... we have a little more time, anyway. How much more? I don't know. We never know, do we?  


 

No, we never know. But ask Sophie and we're sure she'll tell you all that matters is now. Keep enjoying every moment you are blessed with together.

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23 June 2010 - 8:54 am
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I'm so sorry to hear about Sophie's reaction to chemo. As mentioned above, I agree not to worry about the treatment now and try to work on getting some food and appetite back. Titus just had Mylanta today to soothe his tummy and he ate more (handfed) and even licked his bowl. Not sure if the active ingredients are similar to famotidine but it's liquid and fast-acting.

He's not recently post-amp and had his last dose of chemo april last year but we didn't have diarrhea but vomitting and excessive panting (and hyperactivity!) on 2 out of the 6 treatments (carboplatin) was experienced. I guess having strong drugs in our system will somehow tip a balance in our system and different for certain individuals. Boiled chicken breast and rice helps with diarrhea for Titus since he was a pup and I mostly always get quick results when he does his number 2.

I hope Sophie gets better soon and big hugs to you both.

 

 

"A dog is the only thing in the world that loves you more than he loves himself."

OSA in left hind leg–30 August 2008. Ampuversary–4 October 2008.

Titus earned his wings on 15th July 2010.

He is dearly missed and our love lives on.

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Sounds to me like you are doing the right thing for Sophie.  It is all about quality for our pups.

I hope she gets that nasty stuff out of her system and feels better very soon.

 

Also, a quick check for dehydration- if the inside of her mouth feels sticky or tacky she is dehydrated. 

 

Karen and the pug girls

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23 June 2010 - 9:33 am
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Tana:

 

Sorry that Sophie is having so much trouble with the Chemo; Rusty has been able to tolerate his Chemo treatments fairly well, the Dr.'s think his being so young helps, other than the diarrhea issues and some nausea.  From the first IV treatment Dr. Macy has had Rusty on Maropitant Citrate, same as Cerenia (whom Dr. Dressler has endorsed in his advisory emails) giving it to him in the IV and then pills for the next four days.  The smacking and licking lips is a sign of nausea; Rusty does that a lot after his mid month oral Chemo.  There are a couple of months we had to extend the medication for ten days to get him back to eating regular meals.

The diarrhea has been a battle from the first treatment.  We have tried all of the diet adjustments, pumpkin brown rice, etc, along with Imodium without much success.  Rusty gets daily dosages of Fiber-con & a Pro-biotic to help his digestive system.  Dr. Macy finally put him on Budesonide twice daily which has really worked well in reducing the frequency of episodes. 

Jan gives all of Rusty's pills in the form of "meatballs" made from EVO canned food; the surgeon recommended giving his pills after surgery using the meatballs to protect his stomach and get small meals into him.  He now eagerly waits for his twice daily allowance of meatballs. 

He was doing so well this week with no episodes that we reduced his Budesonide to one capsule daily, which Dr. Macy said we could do, and last night he had a serious episode of diarrhea with about 15 stools leading from his potty box along the patio.  Fortunately for us Rusty is really good about getting outside to go potty, even with the diarrhea and we have not had any accidents in the house.

Good Luck!

 

Chuck & Rusty

Rusty is a Labradoodle who was diagnosed with level 3 Fibrosarcoma on January 16th, 2010 and had his left hind leg amputated on January 25th, 2010 five days before his 18 month birthday. Please see Rusty's blog @rusty.tripawds.com.  He is putting up one heck of a fight against this terrible disease.

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23 June 2010 - 10:21 am
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I hope Sophie feels better soon!  If you're worried about dehydration try freezing something Sophie really likes with some water.  We use canned salmon for Holly and she loves eating these tasty ice cubes!  But be sure to put an old towel down - they can make a mess and smell bad (if you use canned salmon).  We've also tried cheese and chicken - both work for Holly.  I usually freeze a few spoons of salmon with about 1/4 cup of water into a plastic snack-size bag or sandwich baggie.  Then you can pop it out of the baggie when you're ready to give it to Sophie.  When Holly doesn't feel like eating she will usually go for one of these.

We'll keep all fingers and paws crossed for Sophie.  We're so glad she no longer has that "look" in her eyes - that's a relief!

Hugs,

Holly, Zuzu and Susan

Holly joined the world of tripawds on 12/29/2009. She has a big little sister, Zuzu, who idolizes Holly and tries to make all of her toys into tripawds in Holly's honor. And she's enjoying life one hop at a time!

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Oh Tana, we're so sorry. I can't imagine how heartbreaking it is to see her like that, after doing so well before.

I wish we could predict who will do well on chemo and who won't. It's so hard to tell, dogs are so different. I'm sorry that Sophie is going through this.

Focus on getting her to eat, and remember, don't lose your patience if she takes time to do so. It's hard to see them this way but you don't want her to see you upset either. She's feeling crappy (ooh sorry, no pun intended) but she'll come around.

I hope by now the vet's office has given you specific instructions on the Cerenia. According to the Cerenia website,

How should I give CERENIA Tablets to prevent motion sickness?

Do not feed your dog for 1 hour before giving CERENIA. The best time to give CERENIA is 2 hours
before traveling, with a small amount of food. Do not wrap the tablets tightly in fatty food such
as cheese or meat, since this may keep the tablets from dissolving and delay the effect of CERENIA.
Follow your veterinarian's instructions for giving CERENIA to your dog before traveling.

 

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