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Sammy had a unhappy experience after the chemo kicked in.
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Greater Western Washington area
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19 September 2010 - 7:02 pm
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The chemo appointment went great, and oddly enough we had a pretty good time.  I got to meet fellow members, Dr. Pam and JD's mom.  They made the experience a little like a party among friends.  When we finally got home I was feeling pretty good about things.  We are on to the easy stuff.  I have heard so many good things about Carboplatin that I was not that worried.

I should've been a little more on the ball.  I didn't give Sammy the anti-nausea pill because it would seem a waste of time unless he had nausea.  The smart thing to do would have been a preemptive strike.  He started getting restless and uncomfortable about an hour before dinner time.  He was panting heavily and was completely sluggish.  I thought this wouldn't take effect until the next day, if at all. 

We spent another sleepless night with the only comfort he could get would be in my arms.  I have been emotional all day!  I am exhausted and living on the edge.  I am mad at myself for not remembering to tell the Doctor about Sammys history of a pancreatic attack.  Why can't any of this be easy on Sammy?!  Why does it all have to hit him so hard?  He is the sweetest boy in the world and he deserves a break.

Finally about an hour ago I managed to get the pill in him and he even ate a little dinner.  I see more movement in him now and I can only hope that he is coming out on the other side.  Why can't it be him that sails through this and is running and jumping like some of the others?  I am sad that cancer is stealing this day.

I looked at his eyebrows out in the light this evening and I see that they are starting to turn grey.  With his black face and his beautiful light brown eyes I bet he would look awesome with grey eyebrows and the little bit of grey on his muzzle.  I hope that he lives long enough for me to see it.  I am so sad.  I wish, I wish.  He doesn't deserve this. But then, who does?  Everyone of these dogs are loved so much.  It is why we are here.  I just want to see those eyebrows turn grey.

Elizabeth and Sammy

Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in the right front leg 8/23/10,

leg fractured 8/27/10,

leg amputated 8/30/10

http://sammyand.....pawds.com/

 

I couldn't begin to say how special Sammy is to us.  Living and laughing with and loving this wonderful boy is priceless.

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19 September 2010 - 7:21 pm
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From what I remember with our other dog Bonnie who underwent chemo (don't know which kind, something they did through an IV), I don't remember her ever NOT having side effects.  Some weeks she was real sleepy, other weeks she hardly ate...eventually after chemo was over and she was deemed in remission did she return to "normal".

I would like to impart with you a saying we have in my yoga classes, "Focus on what you are doing and forget what everyone else is doing.  What ever you do is just perfect for you." Every dog's recovery is different: some people on this site have tripawds due to accidents, some amputations "cured" the cancer like with Chloe, and some dogs only begin their battle with cancer after amputation like Sammy. We are all different, we cannot compare ourselves to one another because all of our circumstances are different.

Please do not be discouraged, we all know you love Sammy so much and that you are doing everything you can.  Sometimes there are just lessons that you have to learn, like giving Sammy antinausea asap. I learned a harder lesson the day I took Chloe home from amputation. We went on a potty walk and I was letting her go at her own pace. BIG mistake. We got 2 houses away (just around the block) and she plopped down on our neighbor's lawn and wouldn't budge.  I didn't have my phone, but our neighbors took pity on us (they didn't even know us) and drove us around the block home.

So like with the yoga saying, you cannot compare Sammy's story to others. It is just important to acknowledge he will recover at his own pace, on his own time and all you can do is just love him through it.  Look to others as inspawration to boost your optimism, not to feel bad that he isn't a super dog who can have super white blood cells that can kill the cancer. Otherwise I would say bottle it and send it around the country!!

Ok this is getting long...going to stop blabbing now...rasberry

-Chloe's mom

Chloe became a rear amp tripawd on 7-29-10. Another tumor was removed on front leg 2-20-14. Found 3rd tumor on neck 2-2015, but she's still kicking cancer's butt at age 14. Chloe's blog

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19 September 2010 - 7:31 pm
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You are very wise.  I will think on that for awhile.  I am just so frustrated for him.  I would do anything to protect him and make it easier for him.  I am just feeling sad today...

I am off to dream a little,

Hope you all have a peaceful night.

 

Elizabeth and Sammy

Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in the right front leg 8/23/10,

leg fractured 8/27/10,

leg amputated 8/30/10

http://sammyand.....pawds.com/

 

I couldn't begin to say how special Sammy is to us.  Living and laughing with and loving this wonderful boy is priceless.

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19 September 2010 - 7:43 pm
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Oh, Elizabeth, please don't beat yourself up.  This is a VERY emotional time, you are on edge, but you ARE doing the very best you can do.  If you weren't, you wouldn't be here!  Once the chemo is behind you, it does start to get easier.  Ask the vet to administer an anti-nausea medication prior to the chemo.  That seems to work fairly well, and then you can still give pills if necessary.

Get as much rest as you can.  It makes a ton of difference in how you see what is going on and how you feel about it. Hugs to you and more good thoughts than you will know what to do with!  Stand strong.  You can do this - one day at a time.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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19 September 2010 - 7:43 pm
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Sorry to hear that you are having a tough time. What worked for us what just taking one hurdle at a time. We didn't think about the next hour, next day or next week. It's easier said than done, and we had to keep reminding ourselves of what we needed to do.
Hang in there, take a deep breath, and give Sammy lots of loving.
Sending you pawsitive thoughts & hugs!

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19 September 2010 - 8:35 pm
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On the bright side-

Maggie's chemo seemed to make her grey faster- so I'll bet you get to see those grey eyebrows big-grin.

When Mag's eyebrows started greying I kept trying to 'wipe it off' since it looked like she had got into something. 

 

I think you have read plenty of posts about being positive and living in the now, so I won't repeat it here.  Sometimes we all feel sad- this is a good place to get it out of your system since we all have been there.

Now you know how he reacts to the chemo so next time give him the meds ahead of time (or when prescribed).  And if he doesn't react well to the chemo or you find the side effects not tolerable you can stop.  It is all about quality for Sammy.

Don't beat yourself up- you are doing your best.  Keep moving forward and love Sammy everyday.

 

Karen

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19 September 2010 - 8:36 pm
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Oh Elizabeth,

Your feelings are so normal.  Just like Sammy, you are going to go thru a roller coaster.  I can only imagine what you guys have to go through since I haven't experienced it.  But I know one thing and that is pure love.

Cancer is never ever fair.  It seems so random who gets it. We protect, protect and protect them some more and still it happens.  

Go take a hot bath and sit in the tub for a bit and let your mind relax.  Or go for a ride by yourself in the car to the park and just sit and watch people. And another thing that will help, get in some exercise when you feel the emotions overwhelming you.  

Sometimes it helps to take a mini break from the moment to get your mojo back.  And remember, you are strong because you are a woman!

Her Retired AvatarComet - 1999 to 2011

She departed us unexpectedly  January 23, 2011 at the age of 12 1/2.

She was born with a deformed front leg and a tripawd all of her life.

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19 September 2010 - 9:46 pm
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Elizabeth & Sammy,

We are thinking about you during this time! The first time for Charlie getting Carboplatin I was scared to death! I really feel for you in this situation. It will work itself out.

I didn't use the anti-nausea or anti-diarrhea until I saw symptoms (when he wasn't eating well, or if his poo got too runny). I also have been giving Charlie the generic (Target brand) Tagamet as an antacid, which has seemed to help.

I am almost on the other side of chemo, with Charlie having his 5th round on Friday. Each time has been a little different, but nothing too overt.

There is something that my vet has been doing that I haven't seen on this forum: At each chemo he gets a shot of Benedryl. We started this due to my worry that he would have a reaction to the chemo the first time. I don't know if it has helped, but it doesn't hurt. Charlie once had a bad reaction to a new vaccination (I can't remember the name, but it was for dogs that come into contact with water or stuff that has other animal urine in it). So we just did it as a preventative and have done it each time since (about $38 each time). It may have helped with his seasonal allergies too. laugh

Anyway, we'll be thinking of you at this time and know that this too shall pass.

Charlie & VQ

"I don't know where I am."

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20 September 2010 - 12:47 am
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I'm so sorry for Sammy, and for you too. Sadie had adriamycin for her chemo, but nausea and diarrhea were also possible side effects.  Sadie was extremely lucky to not have any problems, but the vet did a couple of things that I think helped.  I know they gave her a shot of metoclopramide (or maybe in was in the IV) with her chemo.  Also, they ran her IV pretty slow.  I think if the administer it quickly, it can have more side effects.  See if they can slow down the rate on her next chemo.  I sure hope this is just a one time issue, and that he will do much better next time.  Also, in case of diarrhea, our vet suggested canned pumpkin.  I never had to try it, but maybe keep it in mind.  Good luck Elizabeth and brave Sammy!

Hugs and sloppy Sadie kisses,

Lisa & Sadie

Sadie is my 9yr old Rott/Shepherd mix. Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in her right scapula 1/28/10. Our brave girl had her amputation 2/13/10 and her last chemotherapy on 6/6/10. Unfortunately, a tumor appeared in her back right leg and on 10/7/2010 Sadie's earthly journey came to an end.  On 10/24/2010 we adopted Ranger, a handsome Rott/Lab mix tripawd (got hit by a car) I think Sadie sent him to us.
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20 September 2010 - 4:58 am
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You all here are such wonderful people.  Thank you more than words can say for the support.  I feel embarrassed to have thrown such a fit.  I almost feel like "that little kid" that you see in the store when they can't get what they want.  My husband has been gone fishing and it was just me and the crew.  It just got bigger than me for a minute, like the wolf was at the door and our house was made of straw.

A night sleep has once again improved my outlook.  Sammy is tail waggin this morning and sticking close to my side.  He didn't eat, but he has more energy.  I am off to work, but I will be re-reading the posts as the day goes on. 

Thank you so much for being there, and your kind and great comments.

 

Elizabeth and Sammy

Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in the right front leg 8/23/10,

leg fractured 8/27/10,

leg amputated 8/30/10

http://sammyand.....pawds.com/

 

I couldn't begin to say how special Sammy is to us.  Living and laughing with and loving this wonderful boy is priceless.

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20 September 2010 - 8:16 am
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Don't feel embarassed on your "fit" as you put it!!!  THIS is THE place to get support and have "fits" if need be!  We've all had our own.  At least I know I have!!! winker 

We all want what is best for our pups - it's really tough at times - Sammy sounds like he's rounding the bend now!~

Hugs,

Tracy, Maggie's Mom

Maggie was amputated for soft tissue sarcoma 10-20-09

Maggie lost her battle with kidney disease on 8-24-13

http://maggie.t.....t-24-2013/

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20 September 2010 - 8:17 am
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Catie's first days of each treatment - she had a total of five, alternating between carpoplatin and doxorubicin - were surprisingly uneventful too. She ate her supper; she had energy; she was her old self. The second, third and fourth days she would turn her nose up at her breakfast and walk away, but usually managed to eat something in the evening. She had some mushy poops and lethargy, despite which she managed to rouse herself to excitement at going to the park.

The feelings of sadness and anxiety, frustration and even anger are all normal ones. They pass. They really do. The most destructive one, I think, is the guilt.

Be very, very kind to yourself. And get lots of rest. I find I'm particularly vulnerable to an onslaught of bad feelings when I'm tired.

Sending pawsitive thoughts and wishes for better days ahead, Elizabeth and Sammy!

Catie -

Birthday – November 4 2003

Amputation – January 13 2010

Crossed the Bridge – June 2 2011

 Catie Caitlin 

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20 September 2010 - 8:26 am
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Elizabeth,

If you can't vent and be yourself here, then where can you??? Hang in there, and give yourself a break. It's taken us a few months after losing Skyler to realize that we do need to take care of ourselves, so we can then take care of our fur-babies. Exercising has really helped us with our outlook on things.

Sending pawsitive thoughts, and a big hug!

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20 September 2010 - 11:29 am
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No one see's a 'fit' here.  Everyone sees someone close to panic.  Panic is a terrible emotion, and we have all been there at some point, so there is no need to feel embarrassed.  This journey is not an easy one, and it is much easier for the patient than for the humans.

So glad to hear you are rested and all is better today. 

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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20 September 2010 - 5:27 pm
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Elizabeth,

So glad you posted and shared your fears and anxiety over dear sweet Sammy. Caties mom said it best, it is the guilt that is so destructive. All I can add is ditto to all of the above!

Isn't it great that you see it now - the miracle of the next morning after some rest? You are one smart and caring pawrent. Sammy, and the rest of your pack are very lucky. I have seen first hand the love and compassion you have for that big, beautiful, fluffy boy, no doubt about it.

Hope you can find time to check back in soon and update us on his progress and how much fabulous rest you are getting! wink

Spirit JD's mom

JD

One Tough Girl

(1999-2010)

-Diagnosed with osteosarcoma of her left front leg –

-Amputation July 23 2010 –

-The cancer didn't get her, but she is gone-

-She fought the cancer and loved life till bloat brought her down August 29th, 2010-

Now she watches over her mom and two new sisters, the Quad-Paws Serena and Maya

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