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Raven's in the ER, bad news.
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East Bay, CA
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6 December 2009 - 9:29 am
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Sending positive thoughts and wings of strength. I'm so sorry you are going through this right now. Cancer sucks. I hate it.

May 2001-Jan 21, 2010.....I'm a dog and I'm AWESOME!..... Always.

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6 December 2009 - 10:20 am
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I feel like my heart is breaking for Raven and yourself. I am so so sorry to hear everything that is happening. My prayers and thoughts are with you both.

Jo Ann & Tasha

Tasha 8 years old, First cancer diagnosis 6/26/09, Last cancer diagnosis 9/26/09, Amputation 10/01/09, Loving our girl moment by moment.

Tasha lost her battle and became my Angel on May 4 2011. Forever in my heart….

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6 December 2009 - 10:44 am
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Dawn..I'm in shock.  Like you, this is the last thing I expected to see.  I can only offer you my experiences.  I've put dogs down and I've had them die suddenly.  One, I put down too soon because I didn't ask him if he was ready to leave his failing body, and he wasn't.  The vet felt him fighting it to the end and commented on how hard he fought, which made me feel even worse.  Ask Raven.  If he's too tired to answer you, you could probably take that as an acknowledgement that he's ready.

I once had a medical emergency where I was in shock from internal bleeding, and I can tell you that it didn't hurt.  My brain just didn't work much anymore and I was very groggy.  I don't think it would be a bad way to go.

I've also had an emergency doctor diagnose lung cancer when the problem was really pneumonia.  Your regular vet knows Raven best.

In any case, I'm prayerfully with you, asking for the best outcome.

Mary

Cemil and mom Mary, Mujde and Radzi….appreciating and enjoying Today

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6 December 2009 - 12:10 pm
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I will update all of you in a moment...but nobody's in the chatroom and I am wondering, can you get to Raven's blog?  It comes up saying IE can't open that page, like a dead link.  To the blog or the Dashboard.  I want to update it, but I also have tons of friend this morning checking it and have had them say they cant' open it either.  Is it just Raven's blog?  raven.tripawds.com

Help?
Dawn

 Rottie Raven, osteosarcoma at 8-1/2 years old, amputation in October '09 and in February '10 due to liver mets he went back to heaven where he came from.  raven.tripawds.com

Now I have Miles, rottie mix amputee from a shelter and traveled 1500 miles to find his way here through the Rescue Railroad thanks to tripawds.com.  miles.tripawds.com

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6 December 2009 - 12:27 pm
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I'll just update here and send the link to all my friends trying to get to his blog...

The ER vet called this morning and Raven was stable, got up to go out to potty, but his blood level had dropped a bit.  That is an indicator of a possible bleed/leakage, but also can be caused by the addition of all the fluids.  And it's not dangerously low.  It was 39% last night and dropped to 33%.  25% would be bad.  She said they would check again in 4 hours and she just called to say it is back up to 36%.  THat is GOOD.  I believe it is only on the low end due to the fluids they've had him on (still), rather than a bleed.  The ultrasound didn't show fluid either, also indicating the lack of an internal bleed.

The options:  if he stays at the hospital and does have a bleed out, they could administer fluids heavier (like last night), do a transfusion if necessary, or even do surgery and just remove the spleen and source of the problem.

My vet said we can do all those things here at home, even on his day off.  He knows Raven and knows he'd be better off here emotionally, regardless of how much time he has left.  He advised to bring him home with a catheter and heprin flush and a bag that I can administer if he goes pale or shocky and call him at home if that happens.  He will come with his dog for a transfusion, or even meet me at the clinic for surgery, so no need to leave him in the hospital with strangers. 

My main focus and comfort is that many have come forth (on a bulldog forum that loves Raven, and my friends) to say that bleeding out is painless.  JUst sleepy, disoriented.  Which fits for last night.  He was just shocky, but not in pain at all.  I think he'd have just laid down and died peacefully.   My goal now being to have him comfy here with me through tomorrow, when we can go see Tom during regular hours for a second opinion. 

So, that was my decision until I called the ER back and they will NOT release him with a catheter.  *sigh*  So, Tom is in church right now, I left him a message and asked him to call that vet directly and see if she'd release him to his clinic and then he can just bring him to my place.  UGH.  Or, I will pick him up without the catheter and then meet Tom to put it back in.  I hate their stupid rules for liabilities!!  The dog would be at risk without the catheter in and my vet is confident in my abilities with it!

Waiting now for Tom to call her when he gets my message... 

Dawn

 Rottie Raven, osteosarcoma at 8-1/2 years old, amputation in October '09 and in February '10 due to liver mets he went back to heaven where he came from.  raven.tripawds.com

Now I have Miles, rottie mix amputee from a shelter and traveled 1500 miles to find his way here through the Rescue Railroad thanks to tripawds.com.  miles.tripawds.com

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6 December 2009 - 12:46 pm
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Dawn.

I'm sorry I missed you in the chat room .  I am glad to hear that Raven is stabalized.  I admire you can do the nurse things at home.  It would be to much for me, I fear.  Do you have a medical background?  Knowing that bleeding out is not painful is good to hear.  I still sucks but at least it isn't pain.  Thanks for updating.  I can get into your blog from here but not by doing raven.tripawds.com.  Please keep us informend.  Hugs to both of you.  I am praying for you and your boy.

Debra & Angel Emily

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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6 December 2009 - 12:52 pm
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Thank's for the update. Raven is very lucky to have a mom like you. Hope he can come home later today.

Suzanne & Oslo

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6 December 2009 - 2:39 pm
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Wow, what a wonderful vet you have.  Mine is fantastic, but I'm not sure he would go to those lengths to see Trouble was at home.  Sending you strength as you face this part of the journey.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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6 December 2009 - 2:41 pm
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Hi Dawn - we just want to chime in and let you know that we are thinking about you and sending prayers, as Bob said, once again through tears in our eyes. Having recently been through the unexpected with Zeus (in the end renal failure took him, not the cancer) and that sudden turn for the worst that sucks beyond belief, I want you to know that they tell us when it's time...when they've had enough. You just know...they look at you with this look that says, "OK Mom...I know this is going to be really ruff on you, but I really need you to help me make that last journey...the spirit wants to say and fight, but the body can't". The strength comes when the time comes.

I'm so so sorry about Raven - we are loading up on prayers for you and your sweet boy...as so many have said, you are not alone.

I wish for you to have many more quality days with your baby.

Love

Heather

Heather and Spirit Zeus - Our life changing journey…from the earth to the heavens…one day at a time…always together

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6 December 2009 - 4:50 pm
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Hi Dawn,

Raven is really blessed to have you for his mom. I'm so sorry for the sudden turn of events/health. You willl know when it's time and God willl give you the grace at the time. I found it was actually harder thinking about it than when you finally make the decision and proceed. Raven is trusting you and will let you know so til then, remember to stay in the "now" and enjoy every minute you can with him. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

diane and spirit abbey

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6 December 2009 - 6:01 pm
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I have him home!  🙂  He is alert and ate his dinner.  But he certainly isn't normal as he was yesterday morning.  He could barely make it from the house to the car.  I couldn't have without his harness.  I don't think it's pain, just weak.  He laid down once inside and has been there ever since.  He sleeps a bit, then look around like he'd like to get up and go lay on the couch or his bed, but then changes his mind.  Either too weak or something doesn't feel right enough to bother.  If he stays this way, I do feel it is time. 

I have his entire records from his stay, his xrays, his ultrasounds, bloodwork.  My vet Tom and I went over everything but the xrays, and there's some confusion as to there may be an infection in the mass they thought, and whether it is his spleen or his liver.  So, we are going to ultrasound him at his clinic at 9:30am, and have my friends at Auburn University radiology/oncology look at the films for a second opinion (they are the ones that confirmed his clear films 4 weeks ago).  Then we will hopefully have a better idea what we are dealing with and the prognosis.

It seems the blog is running again, so I will post over there now, so just watch it for updates.   Right now, there is such comfort in just looking at him resting comfortably, I hope the night continues that way.  🙂

Dawn and Raven

 Rottie Raven, osteosarcoma at 8-1/2 years old, amputation in October '09 and in February '10 due to liver mets he went back to heaven where he came from.  raven.tripawds.com

Now I have Miles, rottie mix amputee from a shelter and traveled 1500 miles to find his way here through the Rescue Railroad thanks to tripawds.com.  miles.tripawds.com

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6 December 2009 - 6:13 pm
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Dawn,

I'm glad that Raven is home with you.  I will check for an update on my lunch hour tomorrow.  Give him a hug from me. (Still praying.)

Debra & Angel Em

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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6 December 2009 - 6:48 pm
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Dane and Raven,

Sorry to hear what you have been going through this weekend. Hope things work out for the best. At least Raven is at home where he will be more comfortable.

Good luck with the ultrasound.

Shaun & Supai

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6 December 2009 - 7:35 pm
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Dawn,
I don't know how I missed your post yesterday-
It sounds like you have a great vet who knows Raven well. Together you will be able to figure out the best path forward. Of course the ultimate decision is yours to make, but Raven will let you know.
I hope you and Raven have a peaceful night, and tomorrow brings at least some of the answers you are looking for.

Karen and the pug girls.

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6 December 2009 - 7:37 pm
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So sorry to hear this news. I am thinking of you, and hoping you are coping okay. Once again, I'm so happy that this forum exists as a way to seek out support when you most need it.
All my love, lots and lots of it.

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