Jakesmom you  have provided the protocol for tonight!!  I just fed him which is kinda funny...the vet at midnight suggested why don't i do the soup/rice thing so I though ok, I'll mix that with some kibble and see if he holds that down....he was so NOT interested in that....I eventually got him to eat SOME kibble and some of one of the rolls of that Fresh Pet Select and I hand fed most of it...but I also didn't let him romp a whole lot today, a much quieter walk in the park with the little dogs (Hey, the dog in love with his leg in the pic...Shiloh?  apparently got off leash...this is from another owner...and is GONE....don't get it cuz he was off leash most of the time and didn't run away) so maybe his tummy is sore from barfing and his appetite not soaring.   The vet said the cerenia actually could be given in the morning that it takes a whille to take effect and that it apparently has a long life??  So I have given that now (about  1:15) and will give the Temador at about 4:30.  AND NO FOOD!! 

And OJ has some type of infection...they actually had run a urinalysis so he is doing a course of antibiotics and hopefully piddling all over outside and not on the bed...

here are the stats you asked about Marguerite.....weight 95 lbs, 140 mg Temador tablets, 5 pills (I know I said some of this already), 5 days in a row, xrays in 3 weeks to see if we have progress in reduction.  His M2 (I have no idea if this goes in front or back cuz I don't know what it means lol!!!!) is  1.23.

Okay!  Day/night two report:  THANK YOU MARGUERITE!!!!!!  Giving the cerenia at 1:00 PMish and the Temodar at 4:30 and not feeding anything past 1:00 PM seems to have worked!!!  NO BARF....seems to have been a good night....seems bright eyed and bushy tailed this morning and just finished gulping lunch meat, liver and supplements cleverly hidden.  No more piddle on the bed from OJ, antibiotics starting to work and I am truly a happy camper for the moment!!!!

So at least for us, and it should have been obvious since they gave him a nausea shot before the IV chemo, giving the cerenia a few hours before the chemo seems to have been the key .... oh, and NOT FEEDING HIM ANYTHING YOU DON"T WANT TO CLEAN UP!

The interesting question for me is that with both carboplatin and doxorubicin, they gave him a shot, gave him the chemo and I generally picked him up in the afternoon so the chemo was done in the afternoon and I fed him at his regular 5-6ish time and had no barf.  So I don't know if it was just the fact that this is apparently more difficult to digest? the cerenia needed to be given BEFORE (DUH diane)?  But if this works, I shall NOT screw with it!! 

Will be trying the same procedure tonight and tomorrow at 10:30 he will be going in for blood work so we shall see how  bad a hit the white cells take. 

I don't know if I mentioned also that I have cut out the meloxicam to see if I can get all sight of black out of the poop.  The 48 hr freeze out I did between Rimadyl and Meloxicam is when I think I saw the normal color coming back so I am not going to use it unless he appears to be in pain....that's pretty much the way I use it for ME.

AND THANK YOU RENE (I haven't checked out the other pharmacy yet) but I called The Apothecary Shop and discovered a couple of things that are weird....I can get this drug (if we are successful and go to another treatment) for a couple of hundred dollars cheaper there and it is NOT a compounded drug anyone has to put together at least for his case.  It comes in 140 mg. capsules and 5 to a bottle...so I don't know if ANY drug store can just order them....I am puzzled and intend to find out what this all means.  But a couple of hundred would so be a help.

okay okay...one treatment was BE SITTING DOWN...$1650.00.  That is five pills of 140 mg each.  The cost apparently goes by the size of the dog but it doesn't go down much....so a couple of hundred bucks ... hey I'll take it!!

I knew Magic could do some good.  Even if no results get sent anywhere, we have apparently drawn another family member out of the woodwork!!  Your Tika's face looks very much like my Wolf that I had some years ago....even a little bit like Echo...so I feel like we ARE family!!  And OMG, that is exactly it...you put it right on the nose.  "what if this is the one that works"  Even tho I know we aren't getting a cure, even tho I know it isn't going to be a huge amount of time, boy I'm willing to give it a try.  And the news from Jim and Rene that they are trying this drug for bone cancer....maybe down the road the Temador will be an option that will knock the nasty on its ass!

I keep scrolling back up to look at Tika's face...I cannot believe how she looks like our Wolf.  Golly now I'M curious about your new family member.

Ok, here is the third dose update on the (wouldn't it be wonderful) Magic Bullet.  Yesterday, fed Magic about noon, not much of an appetite at all but he really hadn't done a huge amount of exercise yesterday, just a little.  Gave the cerenia at 1:00 ish, the chemo at 4:30 and we had no barf (thank you God).  Didn't notice anything out of the ordinary (ordinary??? what on earth is ordinary about this whole process)

This morning we went in for his blood draw and the head nurse (who isn't usually the one who does the draws) said "I just can't believe how WELL he is doing" which is what everyone says so it isn't just my rose colored glasses, at least right now!!  We then went to TWO parks and at the last one he played with little Pepper and a huge pit who was a ball chaser (puppy about 2).  Very nice dog incidentally and Magic was kind enough to share his water and cup with everyone (of course I had to keep running to the water faucet to refill the bottle).

When we got home I noticed when he pooped we now have brown puddles instead of the black/yellow messes...but because of the exercise today, I did give him a meloxicam but he did NOT want to eat it and I had to do the stuff the pill down the throat.  Had a little trouble this morning with the supplements/liver/lunch meat things which are usually a snap.  Also had to slide the cerenia down wrapped in some liver cuz he didn't want to eat it.  Was totally uninterested in anything I tried to feed him and since I don't feed him ANYTHING after about 2, I am kinda concerned.  His weight has dropped again, we are now at 94.4.  I tried MANY different things and have settled on trying to get down a can (almost a whole can...cat ate some...well I syringed some into cat) of the A/D canine/feline food that is really high calorie.  I just HATE giving him that chemo on an empty stomach with nothing.  Usually after playing like that, he is hungry so I have to assume that the chemo is definitely affecting his appetite.  He is now laid out asleep.  After all these years of telling him to stop licking his legs, guess how I am feeding this food (only way to get it down).....I am dropping it by spoonfuls on his leg and foot for him to lick off.  I may have been too optimistic about the whole can of food!

I don't KNOW that it is bad to give him the chemo on an empty stomach, but it just seems like it wouldn't be good.  I'll post when I know his blood results.  I assume if the white cells have dropped they may want to do antibiotics again, but I ASSUME we would finish the course of the drug (we have two left, tonight and tomorrow).

Magic has always been a panter even when it didn't seem to be hot and I have to keep reminding myself of that, but I do notice that it seems like maybe he breathes heavier   when he is at rest like now. 

I do have a question for anyone out there...the nurse who did the blood today is the head nurse and she takes it out of the jugular (I believe that is what she said) and said that is the protocol for chemo patients....the nurse who has been drawing blood has been taking it out of the leg....does anyone know the reason for this?  Does it make a difference in the results??