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I called the ER again last night and they said that the culture was not back.  I tried again today and they said again, not back.  Maddie’s regular vet (and the ER vet who sent the culture in) said it should have been back on Monday.  I explained this when I called a little while ago and they said the holiday was delaying everyone’s results.  Soooo…

Jackie – she is not on antibiotics.  She started 5 days of Baytril last Tuesday so that is done.  They want to have the culture back before giving her any additional.  She’s not running a fever, she’s eating and drinking like a champ and generally acting like her old self again.  There is no more smell (thank goodness) and that seemed to be gone within just a day or two of it opening up.  Her UTI is gone (another thank goodness).  The fluid is still sort of bloody fluid and sometimes it’s mucus-like (I know, gross).   There is still a lot coming out of it, but she likes to lay on that side and the doc said that would help it drain.   We are hot compressing under the hole three times a day and we’re also massaging it.  She really LOVES that  – she lays perfectly still, falls asleep and SNORES lol.  She loves the hot compresses especially.  She doesn’t seem to show any discomfort when we touch the area around the hole (we do not touch the hole itself).  She is favoring her one back leg still because of the cut she got getting in and out of the car last week.  She does fine on the rugs inside, but when she’s outside on the patio or grass she is limpy on it.  I guess that must irritate it.

Overall, despite the draining and mess, we are in a much better place than we were last week this time.  And one of the good things that came out of all this is that she’s basically had her whole body xrayed, complete blood and urinalysis and she is metastasis free!  We are all SOOOO happy about that.  And she is whining a bit when she hears her brother!!!  Almost like she wants to be with him again.  The growling when she hears him is completely gone – now when he barks, she barks, like a chorus (that’s how it used to be).  That makes me very happy and I’m hoping they can hang out together again when she is healed!   I know he misses her a lot. 

I will keep everyone posted.  I figure this has to be the beginning of an upward swing for Miss Mads!

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Well, we finally got the culture back (and now I know why it took so long) – she has a Methicillin-resistant Staph infection and I guess they had to check which antibiotic would work.  So she has MRSA which explains A LOT.  Her fever, lethargy, pain, etc.  I am in shock.  Of course the vet who called me was the same vet who told me her cancer had spread and that nothing could be done.  Also the vet who told me the incision was fine.  Which was unfortunate because I have very little faith in her.  She called in an antibiotic to my pharmacy (they didn’t have it there) and that was pretty much all the info I got.  I was upset (obviously) and asked what we should do.  She said nothing as long as the stuff coming out wasn’t yellow and didn’t smell.  She said that the hole would heal up as long as the antibiotic was working.  I asked about precautions for my other dog, for us, etc.  She really didn’t give me any info, just said keep doing what we are doing.  Then she said if it continues to leak, I should take her back there to see the surgeon about a drain.  Am I wrong to think returning there is a mistake?  I don’t think I can let them touch her again. I placed a call to our regular vet and the tech said they did just get the report (she was a shocked as I was) and told me the doctor would call me to talk about it.  I will feel better then and I will also ask her if she would do the drain if it’s needed.  I still cannot believe this.  I am thankful I delayed chemo.  My poor girl.  On the flip side – I came home tonight and she was miss personality.  My son-in-law to be told me that she was a “handful” when he had her out.  She was trying to run, pulling him.  She also is walking around the house carrying her big stuff lambchop which is something we haven’t seen in a while.  So she’s feeling better!!!  

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Oh man, well…I do not know if animals brand of MRSA is the same as human MRSA . I do not know if it’s zoonotic. If you follow universal precautions for people I don’t think you can lose. I’m so sorry you got this doctor again, makes me so angry. This hospital NEEDS to know that you do not want this woman involved in Maddie’s care anymore. Any doctor should have been able to tell you for sure if it’s contagious or not.

Most important right now is that you know how to follow universal precautions. I looked it up but I couldn’t find a “for sure” answer to if it can be transferred to people, but universal precautions will keep you all safe.  Ask your vet, and make sure they know what medication was prescribed and the dosage. That culture should be able to tell the drug of choice to kill the infection. I would just double check and make sure she got it right. 

I am thrilled for you that no 💩 was found!!!

I’m so glad she has more energy, makes you hopeful! Once you get this under control you’ll be fine. Just stay safe while you’re doing it. I have seen some nasty MRSA in people, but if you keep everything clean you should be ok. I hope I haven’t upset you.

❤️ Jackie

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Is Maddie still leaking fluid? How long has it been since this started? We are waiting on Sebastian’s cultures to come back.

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SONOFA…BLEEP!!!!   GRRRR………

Okay…deep breath….and beleive me, we are all taking those deep breaths right along with you!!!    My head is spinning, so I can only imagine what you must be feeling!!   Give yourself some credit!  You have been through a crazy roller coaster eide these past couple of weeks and you’re still stande strong!! 🙂 🙂

Okay, I think I need some more deep breaths, how ’bout you???   B R E A T H E…..B R E A T H E……

Now, what’s important is this has been diagnosed quickly!!   So often “others” who aren’t as familiar with some of the “pitfalls” of surgeries and being hospitalized, etc., have no clue about checking for MRSA when infections show up.  Many Vets don’t think about checking for it right off the bat either.

And the fact that she feels soooooo good is HUGELY IMPORTANT!!!  Often dogs who go undiagnosed get sicker and sicker first.

Go with yiur gipit and deal with yiur regular Vet!!   And I’m not sure on this, but I think that clinic has to report the MRSA and their hospital has to be thoroughly cleaned, sanitized, etc.  Would be interesting to find out how many other cases are there.  That can all be dealt with later.  For now, let’s just keep Madeline out of there…PERMANENTLY!!

I’ve attached an older link about a dog who successfully whipped MRSA named SKETCHER.  Also intertwined in the thread  is another doggy here named TY who also whipped MRSA ! 🙂 🙂

Which antibiotic is Maddie being prescribed?

You’ll have more information once your regular Vet reviews things. 

Geez, I am so sorry this recovery has hit so many hurdles.   I AM SOOOO GLAD THOUGH THAT MADDIE IS FEELING SO DARN SPUNKY!!! 🙂   That is such a ppwerful indication that she is one step ahead of fhis poopicon_png

http://tripawds…..infection/

Hope that link gives you a starting point when you ask your REGULAR Vet questions

LOTS OF LOVE AND HUGS

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Maddie was prescribed Zithromax and my vets office confirmed the lab listed that as the appropriate antibiotic.  My good friend is a surgical nurse and she gave lots of info on preventing spread because it can be passed between people and dogs.  I read some info here on the forums and feel very hopeful that she will be getting better each day.  Amazing enough the Baytril she was on for the UTI seems to have helped, that’s the only explanation I can think of for her improvement.  Because it was such a mess when it burst open, we had already thoroughly cleaned everything.  I am now taking covers off all her beds to treasure with bleach!  

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sebastiandoodle said
Is Maddie still leaking fluid? How long has it been since this started? We are waiting on Sebastian’s cultures to come back.  

Yes, she is.  She got very sick two weeks ago (one month post amputation) and eventually last Tuesday night her incision area burst open at a corner spot.  She gushed blood and fluid for at least an hour and it’s been steady leaking ever since.  She also had a fever and her incision was hot and swollen.  Sadly the surgeon and ER Vet did not diagnose infection.  They thought her cancer had spread so it took a week from the start to get any antibiotics.

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I am glad she is getting the correct meds and I am RELIEVED that you have not only a nurse, but a SURGICAL nurse friend. MRSA is not fun, I have seen tons of it in human medicine. I did not know until I saw your post that animals could get MRSA , I thought it was limited to humans. I am so sorry that this has been such a pain in the * explitive * for you, but Maddie could not have a better advocate than you. I know you must be so tired, but you have done an outstanding job!  Soon you will all get your routine back and this will be a thing of the past. 

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Oh boy, I feel like going there personally and kicking that stupid vet’s bum hard 👢👢💨💨💨 😡

Anyway, the “good” news is now you know what was wrong with Mads and you’re hitting it on the head!

Proof that it is working is Maddie’s happiness and energy, playing with her toy and dragging your son-in-law, no less 😁

Keeping fingers and toes crossed here for a very, very speedy recovery 🐾

Lots of hugs and cuddles flying your way 😘😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Well today was a pretty good day!  Mads got her first dose of antibiotic last night.  Vomiting and diarrhea are side effects and of course my poor girl had both last night!  But today she ate a good breakfast and my daughter stayed home to watch her.  Her wound is not leaking nearly as much, which  I hope means the meds are working!!!   She is sleeping now after her second dose so hopefully no more side effects.  She’s getting 750 mg once a day of azithromyacin.  If she is sick again I’m going to ask her doctor if maybe I can split the dose into twice a day.  I do not want to jinx us but I think she is getting better!!!

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Excellent! Sebastian threw up the first day from taking his antibiotic and anti-inflammatory. We stopped taking the anti-inflammatory and it has been progressing nicely since then. 

Hope Maddie keeps feeling better!

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Can you please try the antibiotic after food? Just a small amount, wait a bit then the meds? Unless they say it has to be on empty stomach that can make all the difference in the world. 

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Go ahead and laugh, all the  mycins make me sick to my stomach if it’s empty

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Okay Maddie, yoive got this handled kiddo!!  Goodness knows we’re all cheering madly for a wuick recovery!  

AND YAY FOR LESS DRAINAGE!! 🙂 🙂  Good sign!

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paws120 said
Can you please try the antibiotic after food? Just a small amount, wait a bit then the meds? Unless they say it has to be on empty stomach that can make all the difference in the world.   

Hmmm.  It says with or without food so I gave it to her with her dinner.  Do you think I should space it out if she vomits again?  I gave her boiled chicken and rice for her meals today hoping it was bland enough….

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