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Inhalation Chemo Not Available in the USA?
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18 September 2012 - 10:51 pm
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I have had another Tripawd pawrent recently share with me wonderful information and research about the inhalation interleukin therapy. I hope they will pick up this forum thread and also share the same great info with everyone :)

Hugs to all our kids and their pawrents and special extra love to Stein

Joanne & TWP Lylee

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Hi all, I was told I should repost this to anyone who may have missed this a few weeks back, and my apologies for my temporary silence or a repeat on this as I try to heal. And should this be of interest to anyone please contact me privately.
Well wishes to you all.
Eileen  and dear sweet angel FayeRaye
 
 I thought I would send this on to you SHOULD you feel someone within the Cancer groups may be interested in hopes as myself and althe rest trying to do all/what we can for our precious fur children. I did not want to consider posting this on Avemar, but know you may know of someone who may wish to give this a try as I did.(below)
 
I have no idea if you are interested or not. I can only base this on what I wished I knew earlier for my precious Newfie FayeRaye who recently passed as you m,ay already know. She was my heart of hearts, and was DX with OS last May at 4 Years old. She had front leg amp, Chemo, Metronomic and alternated with Artemisinin protocol , Avemar, LDN  etc., etc. Sadly half way through the Metronomic Chemo, her Lung X-rays went from clear to tiny lung mets. I had asked my (Very well respected Onco Vet(s) if there was anything I could do at this point. Needless to say the options they gave were a day to day month to month. I opted to as I have through this journey and having 30+ years of Vet knowledge and Holistics to do my OWN 2012 research and than work backwards. Needless to say it lead me to the discussion of 2 things, one being Interluekin. This works on getting the immune system to try to fight back lung mets. It is used IV for many types of Metastatic Cancers ,BUT, at a handful of top[ C centers for dogs it is done by way of nebulizing. Unfortunately there are only a handful who do it for the rest fear it due to lack of doing their research. I was told by UC Davis and the Head of Oncology that it is pretty much a harmless vapor when used as a nebulizing agent, AND has the best overall outcome to target/prevent/stop progression of the all too common lung Mets which are more likely than not to occur with Bone Cancer. Sad but true. There of course are exceptions. Unfortunately though by the time the interluekin is used, it is when the X-rays already show the mets, and quite honestly the odds are they ARE there even when clear, but not what the naked eye can see. I am being upfront on this, for the Vets fail to be on this. Had I known and had I known of inhalation (Nebulizing)with interleukin, and it pretty much being as safe as nebulizing Asthma meds, I would have in a heartbeat tried this, since I had pretty much tried everything else with far worsen toxicity to get this God awful disease under control. I addressed this to my Oncos prior, and they stated they heard of it but they did not feel comfortable having this airborne in their hospital for the Employees sake. So in a nut shell they were concerned for their-selves NOT my precious FayeRaye!. Needless to say, they did NOT do their homework! For this method was no more toxic than someone using their inhaler in the same room! For it was ONLY toxic if used IV in/via the bloodstream, and THAT was referring to the DOG!. So why I am writing is what I wished someone else would have for me. I did my research and contacted UC Davis, and a DR Carlos Rodriquez who is a highly respected Oncologist there and lectures all over. HE is the one who recommended this method, stating he has seen 30% complete remission for OS lung mets. My girl had at least 8 mets throughout her lungs, some as large as golf balls in just a matter of weeks. He stated that he had one even worse and the interluekin kept this other dogs mets in complete remission for almost 2 years. This of course was based on 30% of the dogs it did work to the dogs favor. Obviously this is not a high percentage but I am sure Chemo is not much higher. And Interluekin works to get the immune system to fight back NOT suppress it. I immediately decided with his contacting my good friend and local general Vet, and explaining exactly what it is, what it does and how to use it , which is used by the owner to nebulize their dog at home  2x s a day for a month and that is it. And if it is working it will have pretty much did its job in14 days, but he opts to do 15 more. After that the immune system will have either developed what it needs to attack and keep the cancer at bay or not. All total, it is ONLY given for aTOTAL of 30 days Needless to say, by the time I learned the truth and the positives and chose to order this to try for My dear FayeRaye, In all honesty it is VERY expensive, but after what I and most here have paid and bought through this C journey, I felt this was my last try to at least give her a fighting chance. Sadly, the Interleukin came the same day she suddenly showed extreme pain in her other leg. I had her X-rayed, and it had spread to her other leg to the extreme of clearly showing she lost the battle, and it would be selfish of me to keep her here one more day for me. So the rest I believe you may know, and my heart is still broken and recovering a day at a time, And the Interleukin remains in the pharmacy at my Vet clinic untouched/unopened, and am going to see about returning it. BUT, I felt in my heart, that before I do this, I would e-mail privately those who may be interested or their dogs who may benefit, and would offer it for what I paid which was at my cost, for it was ordered by my Vet, and he as my friend only charged me for what the hospital pays,and would pass this on to anyone who would wish to have it in hopes it may help. Honestly my gut says, if it were used BEFORE the mets showed on the X-rays, it Might work THAT much better, and to me would increase that 30% to a far higher remission rate. I could be wrong, But It only makes sense. I am just trying to help someone(s) who would/might be like myself and would have appreciated an email like this one. I do Voluntary all creature Rescue. And Dear FayeRaye of all I love here was indeed my heart of hearts. But I also have several of her siblings here, so the odds are high another may develop this C, and I am considering just holding onto it, since it is NOT easy to acquire. But my heart says if someone could benefit now, I pray it would help someones precious fur-child Now. I have attached an informative link to help you understand how it works and its effectiveness.
  Please email me privately at setdesigns0@gmail.com
Eileen 
 
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19 September 2012 - 9:19 am
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Hello Buck and family,

I got an email back from Wookie’s oncologist today and it looks like we will be able to do the inhalation interleukin therapy. 

Thank you so much for sharing this great news with us. I want to write a blog post about the treatment, so please keep us posted on how it’s working for Wookie. Paws crossed for much success for your pup and Buck too!

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19 September 2012 - 9:21 am
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setdesigns0@gmail.co said

Hi all, I was told I should repost this to anyone who may have missed this a few weeks back, and my apologies for my temporary silence or a repeat on this as I try to heal. And should this be of interest to anyone please contact me privately.

Eileen I’m so sorry to hear about Faye Raye, I didn’t know. My heart goes out to you, please accept my condolences.

It is incredibly nice of you to offer your knowledge about the inhalation chemo treatment, thank you.

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20 September 2012 - 8:50 pm
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Thank you for posting, Eileen. I think it’s important that pet owners are given all options so they can make the best informed decision for their pet. 

I did send you an email… I hope you got it!

Right hind limb amputated 7/3/12 for OSA, started on alternating cycles of Carboplatin and Doxorubicin and oral Palladia. Single lung met 9/1. Met in the neck muscle removed 9/30. Large mass in sublumbar lymph node 10/2. Rescue chemo with ifosfamide 10/6. Mets to the rib and axillary lymph node 10/21. Started Leukeran and Pred 10/25. Wookie left this Earth for a far better place on 12/4/12. I miss you, Boo, you were my heart.

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18 October 2012 - 1:39 pm
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So much for your statement about “keeping an open mind” regarding our product Tumexal. Without ever requesting information from us about Tumexal, you tell people via your website not to waste their money on it. Tumexal works. Does it work every time? Of course not. But there are a lot of happy pet owners out there who are glad they did not take your advice. As for your statement that we claim that our other product, Preventil-7, will prevent cancer? Where did that come from? Perhaps you were speed reading and skipped most of our explanation about Preventil-7. We present the logic that since dogs are carnivores they lose natural access to a variety of plant phenols that are believed to have cancer preventative properties. We never claim that Preventil-7 can prevent cancer! Our logic is simply that Preventil-7 provides the plant phenols that we humans consume in the hope of preventing cancer, and make them available to dogs, who can’t make that choice for themselves. (We also propose the hypothesis that dogs have 4x the cancer risk of humans for this same reason– a natural lack of plant phenols in their diets). No cancer prevention study in man is possible. It would simply be too expensive, and the intellectual property issues regarding the natural products that would be the objects of such a study have no intellectual property protection sufficient to attract big pharma capital. However, CanineCare.US is initiating what we are calling “The Golden Retreiver Project.” Since Goldens have one of the highest cancer risks in the animal kingdom,  we are going to tabulate, over the next decade, the cancer incidence in Goldens taking Preventil-7, and compare them to age and sex matched control Goldens not receiving Preventil-7.

We believe that your negative comments about Tumexal, based on your misunderstanding of our Preventil-7 claims (of which there are none, just an argument for the logic of putting plant phenols into the canine diet), at the very least deserve an apology.  Removal of your negative comments from your site, or publication of this rebuttal alongside it, would be acceptable as such an apology.

The Folks at CanineCare.US

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19 October 2012 - 8:43 am
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As for your statement that we claim that our other product, Preventil-7, will prevent cancer? Where did that come from?

Directly from the product positioning and description found on your website.

We never claim that Preventil-7 can prevent cancer!

Really?

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No apology is necessary here, unless you care to retract your attack on us for suggesting that people do their homework and fully investigate any cancer treatment they choose to try on their pets.

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Apparently they have taken down the Preventil-7 links on their webpage. The sidebar you show above is no longer there.

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I looked into a clinical trial when Zeus was dx’d and after it had metastisized into his lungs. I was given some hope but I wouldve had hope anyway being I believe God is in charge at all times. Anyway, most clinical trials are funded by the drug companies, research facilities but this one wasnt. I have to mention it was being conducted with very reputable vets and facilities. However I wouldve had to pay 7,000 dollars for the drug injection in addition to the chemo. The chemo would definately be my responsibility but this is where I had the problem; They are actually researching if the drug works on canines so they can use it to help women with breast cancer. Isnt that an experiment on the dog? They also take your dogs body for necropsy to further study the effects of the drug. I had a BIG problem with paying for anyone to experiment on my Zeus and taking his body to help study breast cancer in humans…

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Oh, I’m right there with you on that one Deb.

I understand the need for trials but I think there’s a fine line between trial cures and experimental exploitation. My fur-child is not an “experiment”. 

Okay, gotta quit now before I get on my soapbox.

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First, please note that the so-called “clinical trial” discussed above is not a legitimate one endorsed by any teaching or research institution. It doesn’t count in what I’m about to day.

Dog knows we didn’t understand clinical trials when Jerry was fighting cancer. We thought that dogs were used as lab rats for the benefit of science. We’ve learned a lot since and our fears have been debunked. We would likely participate in one if we ever had to deal with cancer again. Here’s what we learned: for information about reputable and legit clinical trials and their purpose I encourage everyone to check out:

Can Your Tripawd Cure Cancer?

Clinical trials are an affordable way to get the newest cancer therapies. They keep your pet’s quality of life as the number one priority and you can withdraw at any time. To learn more, check out the Flint Animal Cancer Center’s Clinical Trials FAQ’s page.

Learn How Pet Cancer Clinical Trials Seek Cancer Clues and Cures

learn why clinical trials for dogs and people are the most promising path to treating and ultimately curing cancers!

“Heal” is Best Holiday Book Gift for Pet Parents

(In her book “Heal,” Arlene Weintraub explains the importance of comparative oncology research in pets and people and why we can be hopeful about the future of cancer treatments and even cures.)

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The folks at CanineC said
As for your statement that we claim that our other product, Preventil-7, will prevent cancer? Where did that come from?

Directly from the product positioning and description found on your website.

We never claim that Preventil-7 can prevent cancer!

Really?

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No apology is necessary here, unless you care to retract your attack on us for suggesting that people do their homework and fully investigate any cancer treatment they choose to try on their pets.

You tell ’em Jerry 🙂  thank you for representing the Tripawd Community.  You are always my FIRST resource..

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Paw shucks, thank you.

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