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BAILEY'S ONGOING JOURNEY With a few bumps in the road.
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29 July 2014 - 9:38 pm
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OK, I will start by saying this will be the new Bailey update… I know yeahhhhhhhhhhhh RIGHT!

I was all over the place, that is what happens when I get nervous.

 

So update tonight Bailey is crying and having like a panic attack.  Has anyone ever used the anti-inflammatory Carprofen?  She’s only had one dose because it 2x daily.  Tomorrow she will have her full dose.  But she keeps crying the doctor told me it was ok to use Tramadol along with the Carprofen because they are two different drugs. Well she seems to be getting more anxious.  My husband is laying with her to try to calm her down, ears are back eyes look scared.  I know we have issues with Tramadol and she can only have the minimum dose which is 1 (50 mg) 2 knocks her out.  I hate to do that but thoughts from friends here, she needs to rest but if Tramadol can cause crying then I’m not sure what to do.

I’m going to video her and post it here, hopefully.

 

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Can tramadol cause hallucinations? I ask because after my cat Mona’s diagnostic surgery the vet warned me that Mona may act strange by seeing shadows. She did act strange. After her amputation she was on buprenorphin and medacam and would have strange behaviours when it was close to the time for her medication. For example, 24 hours after her surgery Mona jumped on to the window ledge and crawled between the open window and screen. Luckily she couldn’t get her chubby belly up. Two days later day she ran and body slammed her way outside through a wood framed screen door. It’s like she turned psychotic. Or perhaps she was running from the pain.

Perhaps you can check out the side effects of the medications and at least know if hallucinations might be the problem.

When Mona was on the meds all she did was sleep and seemed comfortable. It seemed to be good healing time. From the discussion board it looks like the surgery and recovery is much more difficult for dogs than cats. Good luck with your beautiful Bailey.

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29 July 2014 - 10:50 pm
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Hmmmmm…..yeah, they both are used together all the time, Tramadol.and Rimadyl (Carprofrn). Carprofen can cause GI upset and other issues…but I can’t imagine o ne dose would cause any.problems.

They did bloodwork so if there were any.problems there…liver, etc. they wouldn’t give it to her.

Would you describe it as panic attack or pain?

Tramadol Ican certainly cause some whacky behaviour in dogs. She had some before she went t o vet today, right? That didn’t cause any panic attacks, right? Iknow it really makes some dogs whacko though! I would call first thing in a.m. and see if they can switch her to some other pain n meds.

So sorry she’s having trouble tonight…she needs her rest..adso do you,!!!!

Sorry I’m not much help! Geeez, hope she can take her meds long enough to get her on the road to recovery! Come on Bailey! The meds will make you better…we must may need to switch them up with something else!

Love and hugs! Is she settling down any?

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30 July 2014 - 9:29 am
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Hey Tracy thanks for starting a new topic so we can follow along. How is she doing this morning?

How did she do last night? Yes, tramadol can make dogs anxious. Like Sally said, tram and NSAIDs like carprophen are combined all the time. Not all dogs do well on Tramadol, I would ask your vet for something else if this keeps up.

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Can tramadol cause hallucinations? I ask because after my cat Mona’s diagnostic surgery the vet warned me that Mona may act strange by seeing shadows.

Thanks for joining us in the Forums! We look forward to following Mona’s adventures here and in your blog.

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My pug Maggie freaked out on Tramadol. I gave her a dose, she would sleep for about 30 min, then be agitated and awake for hours. She would look around like so something was following her. She would go outside and sit on the porch, then get spooked and come back inside. She didn’t want to be held or comforted. It doesn’t happen to all dogs, my quad pug boy took it for weeks after knee surgery with no side effects.

I finally got an idea how Maggie must have felt.. I was put on OxyContin after a surgery and had the weirdest hallucinations/ dreams. I could process what was happening, but I could sure see why a dog would freak out.

I would ask the doc for a new pain med. Gabapentin works well for many here. My quad pug takes it twice a day for her arthritis with no issues. She also has been taking rimadyl for years with no problems. I’ve not heard of an anti-inflam like rimadyl causing issues like you are describing.

Hang in there, balancing meds is tough. Hopefully she will be rid of the pain meds soon?

Karen and Spirit Maggie

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Awwww, sweet Bailey. My Molly J behaved a little strangely for the first several days that she was on both the tramadol and the carprofen. There was panting, restlessness, pacing, and staring. But, those behaviors didn’t last the entire time. Hope your sweet pup recovers quickly and can get off her drugs soon.

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Well, we thought we were doing really good on this Carprofen 2x daily.  Her crying at night has stopped but she cries when she can’t get up or I leave the room for too long.  Bailey’s back feet are crossing over when she tries to get up and when she’s walking they want to cross… she’s walking with them close together, she’s trying to walk instead of hop I think. 

First thing in the morning we are calling the vet to see what we do next.  I just want her healthy.

She still refuses to eat anything but ProPlan Savors Shredds Lamb and Rice with chicken on top.  She’s drinking well and also taking 3 ~ K-9 Immunity a day. At night she gets a snack of whole vanilla yogurt.  Anyone think of anything else we could possibly do that might help strengthen her?

Life hasn’t been smooth sailing but she’s a fighter.  We had to have Pip my daughters fancy rat put to sleep.  They actually use a little mask to put him in God’s arms.  He was a funny guy he use to give the Danes trouble… his little paws were quick at grabbing the tongue… they were scared of him. He was 2 and had mycoplasma pneumonia after a trip to the vet this past Saturday, a steroid shot, antibiotics and fluids he seemed to perk up.  But Monday he was struggling to breath.  RIP little buddy.  (This was Halloween, he had no idea we dressed him in a girls sailor suit!)

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Sorry I just had to share PIP. 

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Tracy and Bailey

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Tracy! Geez…..you sure , like to leave us hanging! The july 29th ppst left us a bit anxious my friend! But at least it sounds like she is comfortable now, even though she’s not walking as well as.she should be. Okay, you’ve had a lot on your plate so if you couldn’t get back to us right away, we do understand.

So you are seeing improvement. The Carprofen seems to have reduced the pain greatly and she IS eating…even though you want her to eat more nutritional food…she IS eating!!!

I’ve forgotten…did you ever have a PT take a.look at her?

Did they test for Wobblers?

And I’m so.sorry to hear about Pip. He is absolutely adorable and quite handsome. I know he meant a great deal to your daughter, and all.of you. I love how he intimidated those big dogs!!! And he still looked very buff and manly in his girly costume! I’m glad Pip rallied a bit nd you got some more quality time. He was a very luck fella to be a member of your pack for two fun filled and love filled years!

That Bailey is one tough girl and she is indeed a fighter!!!! Having suce good care and love from her humans helps her stay motivated!!!

And yes…one scoop of yogut….great! Two scoops of ice cream even better!!!

Sending love…lots of it…and a special hug to your daughter too, okay?

Sally and Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle too!

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Hi there

Bailey sure is a fighter!  I’m glad that her pain is being managed better – now we have to figure out her issues with walking.  Hmm – not sure I have any ideas but I’m here to send virtual hugs to all of you :)

Sorry to read about your daughter’s rat, Pip.  Give her a hug for us too.

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Ohhh Pip, may you dance in the heavens, I’m so sorry you earned your wings little friend.

As for Bailey….I can’t recall, has she seen a rehab vet yet? I’m wondering if her gait problems are related to any pain she is experiencing?

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Ok I guess I stay away as long as I do because I always want to have good news. 

I just talked to the vet today and they think either Bailey’s cancer has spread or it’s neurological.  Nothing showed up on the 29th when they ran her through everything nothing showed up.

But I guess I was in denial and didn’t call sooner that the medicine would help her. 

It breaks my heart to say that Bailey has gotten worse.  She can’t figure out how to uncross her back legs to get up.  She cries and I’m right there to help uncross them.

She stopped eating yesterday but did eat some peanut butter and yogurt.

The oncologist is calling in a pain medicine since we can’t give her tramadol.  As far as a physical therapist, her oncologist thinks we need to figure out exactly what it is?  (is this the norm?)  She seems to think her cancer is back.  It was 6 months yesterday.

She’s very lethargic I have to try to motivate her to go potty… I help her up and she is hesitating to go down one small step to go outside.  She doesn’t want to go for walks, and it’s like you have too keep to go potty and she knows the word but she’s not communicating that with her body.  Her feet are together and she doesn’t do the tri-pawd hop.  I will do anything for her, I will feed her anything but she’s not interested.  Say prayers that she gets some relief.

It seems like every time I sit down to get on here I just want to jump through and get all of you together to do a group hug.  This sucks.

They can do a MRI but the oncologist said do you really want to know if it spread to her spine.  She said we can give her other medications to help her be pain free and go another route now.

I just am sick to my stomach and the tears won’t stop.

I’ll try to come back later.  I’m going back to Bailey for now.

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A friend just sent this to me and I want to see or hear thoughts about any of this.

Not sure if that will work but Ellen ~ Charley’s Mom sent it to me.  I will try to copy it better.  Tears are in the way

http://www.myho…..d-disease/

 

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Her oncologist put her on Gabapetin 600 mg 3x daily.  Wobblers has been ruled out.  No lesions on the spine.

 

I’m sick to my stomach, when I lay with her and she stares at me and we look into each others eyes… I JUST CAN’T!  But our oncologist said on Tuesday they would try to determine another path.  They want to do more x-rays and an MRI.  Not sure we can do the MRI, it’s $2,500 but it depends on the mood my husband is in.  Sometimes when he’s with me he would like to just punch a few people out… out of frustration.  But he doesn’t thank the Lord! 

It’s in God’s hands.  I want my little girl happy with perky ears and getting up on her own.  It was 6 months yesterday. 

JUST NOT FAIR!

HUGS AND PRAYERS,

Love, Tracy and Bailey Girl

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Tracy, my heart dropped when I read this, I’m really, really sorry things are so hard right now. It does appear that she’s getting some fabulous care and they’re really doing all they can, I agree that if you were able, a MRI would be the next step. But like your oncologist suggested, how would you handle the news if you knew that it had gone to her spine? On the other hand, can you handle not knowing? It’s so hard, and there are no easy or right answers, everyone is different.

I’m so hoping that she will get better, that this is temporary and some kind of condition can be pinpointed and alleviated. In the meantime, have you seen this Quality of Life info in our Coping with Loss forum? As hard as it is to read through it, it sounds like this is the time to start addressing her quality of life to make sure she is pain-free and still having more good days than bad.

My heart aches for you, I know this is terribly hard. Try your best to be strong OK? I know that I say it a lot around here, but it’s at this point when you really have to do your best to live moment by moment and cherish the good ones, no matter how brief they are, because in the end, you don’t want to look back at this time with regret. Remember, she’s not gone, she’s still with you here, now, and she wants you to be with her and be loved by her favorite humans.

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