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Any phantom pain experiences?
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7 February 2020
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Hi all! 

Started a new topic just in case. 

Bärli has these yelp/cry outs especially after getting up and they are heartbreaking. He seems to do ok otherwise. There is some fluid build up at the bottom of the wound but the vet wasnt too concerned. 

Surgery was 27th of Jan. He got 300mg gabapentin twice daily since this week monday. While it seemed to help with the restlessness and some other stress signals these yelp outs still happen. Today he had to really bad attacks. I am a bit hestitant to to touch him at this side Im very afraid of him gettting up when he is lying down.

Did anybody else experience this? I guess this wouldnt be of a mechanical reason like when he gets up on is wobbly and wound site cramps up? 

My partner will be home with him next week but then we both have to go back to work.... which is the next thing that really worries me if he has these yelp puts.

Love to all

Raphaela and Bärli

7 February 2020
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He gets meloxidyl once daily and 250mg paracetamol twice daily as well.

7 February 2020
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Hi Raphaela,

Yes that does sound like phantom pain , unfortunately. Sometimes it happens when pain management isn't as aggressive as it can be, right before and right after amputation.

Right now he seems to be getting good pain meds, but based on what you're describing he could need some alternative / replacement therapies to alleviate the nerve pain. Managing pain takes a multi-modal approach, meaning pain meds along with physio therapy methods like massage, acupuncture, etc. 

So, you may want to ask your vet about using other types of medication instead. You can ask about Amantadine, perhaps using it instead of the paracematol which may not be doing anything at this point. Also, a muscle relaxer like Methocarbomol may also help. Both work on different pain receptors that may target his phantom pains better than paracematol.

The best thing to do at this point is to talk to your vet about rebalancing the pain meds. Then have Bärli evaluated by a canine physio therapist. I can help you find one if you'd like, just private message me with your address. Or you can check out the directories in the Tripawds Foundation post about our Rehab Reimbursement program. If you see a practitioner with the "CCRT" or "CCRP" credentials the foundation may reimburse you for the cost of your first rehab visit so please take advantage of it.

For more about phantom pain see:

Dr. Downing Explains Phantom Leg Pain in Pets

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7 February 2020
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Hi! 

Thank you for your response. I have contacted both our specialist clinic and our vet to discuss pain meds but they havent called back yet. I know our vet does acupuncture so I will ask about this and I also contacted a mobile physio practice. We are in the Uk though.

I am not quite sure why but last morning after the vet visit everything got so much worse. We were meant to remove the staples but didnt because of the fluid build up. I started hot compresses now. Even when I just put his coat over and it touched this bit it cramped up.

Thank you for your help!

Raphaela 

8 February 2020
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Just wondering if some of his staples are pinching him when he gets up or down. I know it has happened to other members. Just a thought.

I hope that handsome Barli gets to feeling better really soon.

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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04/01/2007 - 03/05/2020

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8 February 2020
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That's a great thought, Nancy! Thanks for bringing it up.

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20 February 2020
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Yes the staples must have annoyed him big time but since the seroma wasnt empty and this part was a bit infected they only came out on the 15th. Since they are out and since we started acupuncture his pain attacks decreased considerably. He loves our physio ladies. It works so well and it helps him to proper relax again. I could have never helped him like this by myself. 

Thank you for all you tipps and hints!

This is such a great community for owners and their dogs!

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