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Upcoming Oncologist Appointment for OSA
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13 November 2021 - 9:47 pm
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Hi to everyone!

I cannot tell you how relieved and happy I am to have found this community.

My Lyla, a 5 year old Neapolitan Mastiff (1 of 3) and my heart dog was diagnosed with OSA three days ago.  Since then I have read Dog Cancer Survival Guide from cover to cover.  It is a wonderful book full of amazing information and which lead me to this forum.

As all pawrents, I am terrified, sad, overwhelmed and exhausted and our journey hasn’t even started.  We meet with the Oncologist on Monday for options and of course, the most important thing for me is taking her pain away and from what I’ve read, amputation is the surest way to do that.  She is currently on 2400mg of Gabapentin a day, along with Tramadol, CBD and Golden Paste.  

I am terrified of amputating because I am terrified she won’t know why I took her leg.  She is not an active dog by any stretch and her activity of choice is sleeping wherever I am.  I am not worried about her quality of life being impacted by the amputation, but rather her pain after the operation.  

I was SO worried about her being a giant breed, but seeing all of the giant breeds on this forum thrive after amputation has really given me hope.

Any advice/experience is truly appreciated.

Jamie & Lyla

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14 November 2021 - 7:27 am
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Hi we are in a similar place.

Our large (42kg) Labradoodle aged 7 and half has been diagnosed with the same, but he also has quite bad osteoarthritis of the left hip and we, plus the vet are unsure he will cope as a Tripaw.

We cannot bear to see him suffer both now or post op.

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14 November 2021 - 12:01 pm
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Jamie & Lyla, thank you for posting. Sorry it took so long to approve your first post, but your future ones won't need to get approved so please post away. I'll try to answer your concerns: 

 I have read Dog Cancer Survival Guide from cover to cover.  It is a wonderful book full of amazing information and which lead me to this forum.

Aww we are so glad you found us. Sorry that you had to. It's a tough situation for sure. But we are here to help however we can.

I am terrified of amputating because I am terrified she won’t know why I took her leg.

Try not to look at it like that. What we say around here is that amputation is not doing something to your dog, it's doing something for your pup. By taking away the pain, you are doing the #1 thing in this situation with her diagnosis. The look of relief that we see on dogs after surgery is amazing, it happens all the time. You will notice a greater comfort level once recovery is over, guaranteed.

her pain after the operation.  

Sounds like she already has a good pain management team working on her behalf based on that gabapentin dosage (YAY!). When pain is well-managed before during and after surgery, it makes recovery much, much easier. Yes, there will be discomfort. But if things are handled well and you stay ahead of the pain by following the dosage and timing, she should be as comfy as possible. 

You are doing everything possible to give her a chance at a great life. Yes, she is a big dog, but she's not the biggest we've ever seen here. And as long as you can keep up a pawsitive and hopeful attitude, you both can handle amputation recovery even better than you imagined. It's not always easy but you can do this!

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14 November 2021 - 4:02 pm
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Hi Jerry,

Thank you so much for all of your encouragement. 

I've read so much lately and side effects from chemo really get some pups down. I think my biggest question is, do I want to put her through this? She had discopondytis when she was 8 months old and I was right beside her the whole way. She was paralyzed in her back legs for a month. I fought so hard, she fought so hard, I don't know if she can fight again. 

I started her on the Diet from Dr. Dresslers book and she LOVES it. I'm supplementing and just hoping for the best tomorrow when I meet with her oncologist. I don't even know yet if amputation is an option. 

Thank you again for all of your support. I will updated once I have news tomorrow!

Jamie & Lyla.

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14 November 2021 - 7:06 pm
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Oh gosh, have to see pictures of your Lyla!!  A whole lot to cuddle with a Neapolitan  Mastiff.  Here's a link to help posting pictures...adding images

Ditto everything Jerry said.  We all understand the emotions and fear and uncertainty and exhaustion  in making this decision.  We also understand  (if amputation is the path forward) how happy will be without pain and how much you two will enjoy snuggling together.

For now, just keep things chunked down.  You can dec on chemo later,  For now your goal is to confirm sweet Lyla is a good candidate for amp  and to fet to a point where uou can feel reassured  about your decision  (whatever  decision  that may be). 

Write all your thoughts down to discuss  with your Onco.  Take your tablet (or whatever) to record the answers.  I find listening back to the communication after I het home is far vetter than trying to "remember" what was said.

Like any surgery, for dog or hooman, recovery  is no picnic, HOWEVER, it doesn't  last forever!!.  If that the best option for Lyla, just know we will be here to support you and help you navigate  thru recovery and all our tips to help Lyla adjust to three.....easy peasy 😉

Stay connected!  You are not alone!

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Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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15 November 2021 - 5:26 pm
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Hi Benny!!

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my post and reassure my worries.

We met with our awesome oncologist who gave us many options. She mentioned radioradiation and it's amazing outcomes, however we are in Canada and it isn't available here. We'd have to drive to Florida or Colorado to have treatment at the cost of 10k USD. While we do have pet insurance her policy is only for $1500 a year (I have my other mastiff on a different policy because I learned with Lyla when she got sick at 8 months old).

Lyla had her ultrasound, chest x-rays and evaluation by a surgeon today and now we wait and see the results to know if she's a candidate for amputation. We should know tomorrow. If she is, her surgery is already scheduled for this Thursday and then she will do 4 rounds of chemo. 

She also mentioned a vaccine they are working on that could extend her life even more, but again, it's not yet available in Canada. She's hopefull that by the time Lyla is done chemo, it will be.

Now we wait and see what she tells us tomorrow.

Thank you again for all of your kind words and support. I think I'm going to need it throughout this entire process.

Jamie & Lyla xo

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15 November 2021 - 5:32 pm
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The fist photo is my Lyla and the second is my three babies (Lyla is in the middle). The other two are Looch (my old man of 10) and Lacey, the goofy pup!

Virginia



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15 November 2021 - 8:31 pm
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OOOOOMMMMMDDDDD!  I AM SO IN LOVE.....IN LOVE TIMES THREE!!!!♥️♥️♥️  Cant stop smiling looking at these pictures😊   Smooching their mugs thru the computer screen!  A spectacular  looking crew!.   

Good job of doing your research and developing  a plan forward.  

We'll look for your update.  Stay connected  and let us know as any questions arise.  My Happy Hannah (a Bull Mastiff) also had four rounds recommended for her by her Onco.  I was very pleased with her protocol  and she sailed thru with no issues.

And more pictures!!!!  Absolutely love these pups!!!  BTW..10 yrs young for a large pup.good job!!

Hugs

Sally and  Alumni  Happy   Hannah  and  Merry Myrtle and  Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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16 November 2021 - 10:21 am
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I could only see Lyla's photo but oh my dog what a beauty!

We have paws crossed for good test results today! Please let us know how it goes.

Lyla is a strong girl. Yes she had a ruff time starting out in life (yikes what a story!), but that just proves she's got what it takes to fight cancer. Try not to look at treatment as "putting her through" something awful. Oncology for pets is much, much different than it is for people. It's all about quality of life, and managing the condition, not necessarily eradicating it because their bodies just couldn't handle the higher amounts of chemo that humans get. Most dogs manage treatment with minimal side effects, usually just lack of appetite for a couple days after treatment. If they do get significant side effects the treatment is tailored to match their sensitivity levels.

It's exciting you are working with a great sounding oncologist. Where are you getting treatment? I love that they are working on getting a vaccine too. Do you know which one? Check out our immunotherapy posts for details about this groundbreaking treatment.

Keep us posted!

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16 November 2021 - 11:52 am
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Hi All!!

Just got the results from her tests yesterday.  Her lungs are clear, her bloodwork and ALP levels are all normal.  Lyla is a candidate for amputation!  Her appointment is on Thursday November 18th and I am so scared.  

Her oncologist said that OSA is so incredibly painful and that most dogs don't ever let us see JUST how painful it really is, especially Mastiffs who are so stoic. I KNOW I am doing the right thing, I just pray (and I am not the praying kind) that she will be pain free and adapt as well as most of the stories I've seem here.  

Thank you to everyone who has offered supportive words and who is helping me through this.  You all have no idea how it makes me feel.

Jamie & Lyla xo

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16 November 2021 - 12:51 pm
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WHEEEEE! That's really, really good news to prepare you and Lyla for surgery.

Of course you are scared! But your onco vet is completely right. You will be surprised when you see the difference in her personality and mobility, once recovery is over. We didn't realize how much pain our own dog was in until we took "after" pictures. The difference was incredible. His facial expression went from scrunched to relaxed, his ears perked up again, and there was no sad limp. We knew then we made the best decision for him.

We are here for you both. Please, ask any questions you'd like and keep us posted OK?

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16 November 2021 - 7:47 pm
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YAAAAY FOR A GREAT CHECK UP!!!!   So glad you can move forward now and get that bum painful leg off!

Recovery is no picnic at first.  That's  when you really need to lean on us and let us support you through it.  Lyla will recover at her own pace and in her own sweet Mastiff way.  And when the sparkle starts to come back and when the drool starts to flow again when you say "cookie", we are here to celebrate that!

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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17 November 2021 - 3:09 pm
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Ok, it's the night before her surgery and I'm officially freaking out. The guilt is eating me alive. I can't eat or sleep. 

She is SO attached to me that even just leaving her at the clinic has me racked with guilt. I pray the surgery goes well and I can pick my baby up on Friday. Once I have her, I'll feel SO much better.

Sorry for the pity post, but my god this process is brutal.

Jamie & Lyla

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17 November 2021 - 8:03 pm
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Not a pity post at all!  We ALL understand the emoticons and they are brutal!   The fear, the panic, the second guessing and the list goes on and on!    And yes, once surgery is done you will feel so relieved and prob will pretty much pass out from exhaustion.  Lyla will ge high as a kite on drugs so she'll be seeing  pink elephants  and feeling no pain..

Just remember  that "guilt " is a hooman thing and doesn't  register with Lyla at all.  What will register  with Lyla is her pain will be gone!!

Eat chocolate  and lots of junk foo.  That always helps the night before their surgery. Or,  as some do,  down some alchohol!  Whatever works.  But the best therapy is just veing with Lyla and visualizing  how well things will be and Happy she will feel when all this is behind you. 

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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17 November 2021 - 8:04 pm
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Jamie you don't need to be sorry about anything OK? Everything you are feeling is totally to be expected. I sense though, that you will know exactly how to be strong and what to do when you get her back. 

It's a lot to think about, and worry about. But worry is unproductive so do your best to keep busy. Get your house Tripawd-proofed, try to go on a walk, get some air and breathe so that you feel strong and ready for her when she comes home. You can do this!

Keep us posted tomorrow, we'll be waiting.

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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