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4 yr old Great Dane with Osteosarcoma
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Hi Elisabeth and Monte 🌸🐾

Goodness, he threw up his bandage ??? 

Well, as Jackie and Sally said it was good that came out and now no more bandage eating for our sweet Monte 😷

Elisabeth, it is totally normal he doesn’t know what to do with his legs (and still doesn’t have the strength to negotiate his new gait) also, as Sally pointed out floors at the hospital and vet clinics are incredibly slippery.

I do not understand why that is, though …

Hospitals and vet practices should have non slip floors, after all, they see a lot of weak and senior patients … anyway …

Going back to Monte, remember he is huge and is missing a front leg, that is why the harness is fundamental for us to be able to help our babies stand up, lie down and hop for potty breaks.

Remember the last picture I sent you of Eurydice standing up?

It was taken day 6 after surgery, she would stand up (with my help), hop on to the hall and then she would just stand there completely still for 10-15 minutes at a time.

It puzzled me to start with but then I realised she was just practising her balance!

Massaging his leg to keep circulation going, as Jackie suggested, is a very good idea.

I am thrilled to hear they are keeping him for another 24h, staff at the hospital are fully “equipped” to deal with a huge Dane (better than us Moms are 😉) and there are male nurses who are certainly stronger than us, too.

Eurydice’s surgery was done on a Wednesday and I collected her Sunday morning, the surgeon told me I could pick her up after day 2 but I declined as I thought she (being so huge) would be better cared for there, for another day or so.

I still think it was a good decision.

I don’t know what kind of car you’ve got but if it is an SUV type of vehicle you should try and get a friend to help you get him out (with the assistance of the harness) when you get home.

I’ve got one and when I picked up my adored baby girl me and three nurses were out in the car park discussing the best way to get her in.

Of course, Eurydice being Eurydice got fed up with the discussion and decided to jump right in 🌪!

Sweet Elisabeth, Monte is now two days closer to the end of recovery and even if there’s still a bit of road for both of you, you will not believe how well and vigorously he will bounce back 🏓🏓🏓🏓

Angel Eurydice is not going anywhere, she is staying with Monte, keeping a good 👀 on him 🕊🌟

Sending you hugs and XXL ear scratches to your sweetie pie 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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Good morning to all,

Thank you all for your cheers and uplifting comments! Yes, I too was thinking why do they have slippery floors??  Monte is a big boy and I’ve seen three techs struggle with moving him around.  You would think they were having to move a pony…yes, actually! LOL.  I’m going to get him some of those paw socks. (not the ones that feel like a balloon)  My home floors are ready for traction action!

Monte was more alert last night for our evening visit.  When loud noises happened he perked his head, just little things that showed he was coming off the medication look.  His incision was still oozing.  I thought I read somewhere on a forum here about a drain tube being removed from their dog after surgery?? Monte didn’t have one so at first they didn’t want him to lay on the amp side now they do to help put pressure on the fluid build up.  I’m sure he was a little confused.  

I called this morning, rounds were being done so all I know at this point is that he rested better.  Hoping for a better incision report, but it’s ok.  I know we are making progress.  Thank you Theresa for letting me know Eurydice was at hospital a few days too.  I can see why it takes these larger dogs a few days to adjust.  Even if they are already compensating, they know there is a tip toe to balance them. 

I have a van.  After knowing about the OSA, I bought a ramp for large breed dogs (extra wide) for him to get used to it.  There are times he just looks at it and side steps it and hops in.  Oh my!  So I’m thinking he will try to use it more now.  Or he’ll just do his thing…like Eurydice did!  Gotta love their independence!

Will update later.  Thank you again to all for being here!

Love and hugsheart

Elizabeth and Monte 

  



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Hey Elisabeth and Monte 🌸🐾

Lovely to hear your update, Monte is on the mend, yuphiii 😄 !!!

I didn’t understand what you said about the paw socks.

Did you buy some and are planning for him to wear them at home?

Or did you get carpets/rubber underlay/yoga mats on your floors for traction ?

I am asking because booties should not be worn at all times as they prevent sweating to happen (dogs can only sweat through their tongues and paws). 

Eurydice wore her booties every time she was out on difficult terrain as with her gait changing so did the way she placed her feet hence booties became crucial to prevent sores/callouses (not all Danes have this happening).

My baby didn’t come back with a drain tube either, I am not sure she had one placed whilst staying at the hospital. 

Great you got a ramp, I resorted to more imaginative means towards the end of Angel Eurydice’s journey as, before that, she was always able to jump in and out of the car. 

I am so, so, so happy with his progress, Elisabeth 💜

Looking forward to hearing more later. 

Sending you a big hug and lots of cuddles to our gorgeous brindle poney 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 



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Hi there sweetie 🌸

How are you and Monte doing?

Thinking about you both, hugs and cuddles 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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4 June 2018 - 6:49 pm
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Elizabeth and Monte,

Hope all is going well for you. Just wanted you to know that you’re on our minds. Hoping for a smooth recovery ❤️

Sending hugs and love your way ❤️❤️

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Hello to all,

Monte is home.  Yay!  However, I have a question.  

He was given cephalexin last week before surgery.  Based on his weight its quite a bit.  I’m not saying that it’s because of the ceph but Monte’s good legs are swollen.  Therefore it’s not helping in his movement.  Nor does it help me because he’s not having the balance he’d have if he could feel more of his legs. ( If that makes sense.)  Any one else have these issues after surgery?  He’s taking other meds but I know my breeder said not to let Danes use cephalexin for long periods of time.  Yes, Monte’s legs have been swollen sense after surgery but they kept saying he needs to move around more.  Kind of hard to do with the swelling that has taken place.  Yes, I’m calling to see about a different antibiotic.  I’m just wanting to know if this leg swelling was common among.

His appetite is good!  He looks good on the incision area.  Just gotta get over this hump in the road of the good legs being like jelly.

Thank you for the support!  Much neededheart

Elizabeth and Monte 

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Theresa,

I was going to buy the socks to see if it would help his traction .  It seems though the leg swelling is what’s hindering it right now.  My floors are carpeted except in the kitchen which is where I’ve added carpet.

Oh yes, we are experiencing face plants as well.  Poor boy.

Elizabeth

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Hi Elizabeth, I’m so glad to hear that he’s home! clap

I know it’s hard to see him do the face plants. Try to keep in mind that he’s wobbly, dopey and just now getting his balance. It will come in time, especially when the leg swelling issue is resolved and he’s off the pain meds.

Thanks for bringing the issue about cephalexin to our attention, I was unaware of it. But a quick Google search shows that joint swelling and lameness sometimes happen in breeds like Danes. I would definitely ask your vet about a new antibiotic. We’ve seen swelling in remaining limbs before so it’s not too uncommon, but I’m not sure if cephalexin was the culprit. I’ve been told the fluid was the result of excess bodily fluid left behind from the amputated limb.

Have you been able to assist him moving around with a sling or harness handle? He shouldn’t be doing too much right now other than going outside on leash to potty, so try not to overdo it when encouraging him to move. Gentle massage to help distribute fluid around his body can also help.

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Thank you for your response about the fluid and all!  I actually didn’t think about it being from the amp leg.  Yes, I’m massaging all legs.  No, he’s not overdoing it.  As a matter of fact, two of his meds make him sleepy so he’s sound a sleep.  Of course that wasn’t the issue during the night…he was awake.  He doesn’t even want to wake up to go pee.  He’s going in his sleep on the pads.  Is that heard of during the first few days at home?  Yes, I have the harness, using towels, or whatever I can to shift him around.  Waiting for call back from vet about antibiotic change.  The other thought is that he may need a mild diuretic to help flush extra fluid because of DCM.  Will ask when they call!

Again, thank you for being here!  This is not a simple, nor did I think it would be, process to go through.  Monte is a fighterheart

Will update later,

Elizabeth 



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Hi Elisabeth and Monte 🌸🐾

SO lovely to hear from you and know Monte is home 😄 YAAAAAAY 😁

Eurydice didn’t have any swelling and she did take an antibiotic for about 10 days but it wasn’t that one (can’t remember the name, I’m afraid …) we had no problems with it. 

As for the socks, forget it.

If your house is carpeted that is actually ideal, he will have no trouble at all hopping around when he is strong enough. 

Eurydice never had any peeing accidents, but I was lucky she didn’t have to go far as the mattress was placed just by the door leading to the garden and I was sleeping next to her on the floor so could see whenever she woke up and looked like she needed to go.

Of course, the exception was the first poo as she decided she had to do it in the street outside in the pouring rain, as I mentioned 🙄😬…

There are many others here who had their dogs using pads so Monte is not alone in his peeing predicament.

I wouldn’t worry to much, he is still very wobbly and the important thing is for him to pee, pee in bed is better than no pee 😉

Crucial now is having lots and lots of rest, so let him 💤💤💤💤 away 😉

Sending you both lots of hugs and cuddles and slobbery Angel kisses from Miss Cow 😘🐮💫✨🌟🌹

Eurydice 77kg/170lb Great Dane limping end of April 2016, amputation (right front leg/osteosarcoma) 4 May 2016 6 courses of carboplatin followed by metronomic therapy, lung mets found 30 Nov 2016. 3 courses of doxorubicin, PET scan 26 Jan 2017 showed more mets so stopped chemo. Holistic route April 2017. Lung X-ray 5 May 2017 showed several tennis ball size mets, started cortisone and diuretics. Miss Cow earned her XXL silver wings 12 June 2017, 13 months and 1 week after amputation and 6 1/2 months after lung mets, she was the goofiest dawg ever and is now happily flying from cloud to cloud woof woofing away :-) 

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He’s going in his sleep on the pads.  Is that heard of during the first few days at home?

Not at all, especially for XL Giant Breed couch potatoes! It’s pretty typical, and what’s also typical is that oftentimes giant breeds take a little more time to find their sea legs than smaller dogs. Try not to worry OK?

You are doing GREAT. Keep us posted!

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Hi guys! 

So glad he is home and ok. I have heard of a few others doing a little tinkle (if there is such a thing with a pup Monte’s size) training pads or incontinence pads underneath him should help you, doubt it will be for long. Once he’s more  aware of his surroundings he will probably be embarrassed.

I did not know that about the swelling either. I know that my chocolate lab, Pepper went on dieuretics for CHF, but I don’t know if that is appropriate for Monte. 

One step at a time, one day at a time. I think the massage is a wonderful idea, you should see him start to perk up in a couple of days, maybe even sooner! They are all so individual, I don’t think any 2 go through the exact same thing and you are going to be on high alert for a while, I think we all do that trying to make sure we are caring for them properly.

I’m sitting at emergency clinic waiting for an injection, evidently I have gotten myself into some poison sumac 🤬😡🤬

I wanted to check in though and say hi. Stay close by, we are here for you!

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I’m sitting at emergency clinic waiting for an injection, evidently I have gotten myself into some poison sumac 🤬😡🤬

I wanted to check in though and say hi. Stay close by, we are here for you!

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Hi to all!  

Sorry to hear!  Hope you are feeling better!

Thank you all for the replies.  Monte is doing better!  The leg swelling was some what due to his iv catheter busted in the back leg.  But the swelling in the back legs has gone down.  The front one is still a little swollen.  Something happened to that iv catheter too.  Wednesday he was up on his own a few times and more mobile.  So we are moving along!  Still using pads but I’m ok with it.  Oh and as for the diuretic, she didn’t want to put him on anything like that because he could dehydrate.  Anyway, I will say he is determined when he wants to be when it comes to moving in the direction he wants to go! A good face plant this morning but it’s ok. Sometimes our human feet get in their way.  He’s trying to figure it out.

Thank you again!  I do have a picture of Monte to share so I’ll attach for next postheart

Love and hugs,

Elizabeth and Monte

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OUCH!!!  OWWEEE!!   So they jist now told you about the catheter?  Geez….so sorry that happened!   I’m  sure his leg is painful  as a result and that’s  hindering his mobility as well .

Really glad to hear you are seeing improvement!  Slooooly but surely  things will get better and better!!   Hang in there!  You have a great attitude  and that’s  very powerful during recovery!!

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Oh man, I’m just catching up here. A blown iv.. That makes all the sense in the world. It must have infiltrated into the leg. They really should have saved you all that worry by telling you!!

I’m glad you’re all doing ok, hopefully he will get more sure footed quickly now. He has a lot more body to get acclimated 😉

Sending many hugs your way!

Jackie and Huck ❤️

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