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15 May 2013 - 7:41 pm
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Patricia, please don't beat yourself up. This whole experience is such a time for learning for a lot of us. There are SO many things we don't know when we start it, but everything happens for a reason and teaches us something. You are learning how to be a good advocate, to speak up, that is so valuable.

I'm so sorry Atlas isn't feeling good today. I know this is heartbreaking and hope that he improves soon. Keep your vet aware of what's going on and you can't go wrong.

Somewhere I read that laser therapy shouldn't be done during chemo but I can't for the life of me find it. I thought there was a discussion here once. Maybe someone can point us to some information?

Hang in there. Like Lisa said, tomorrow is a new day. We are thinking of you.

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Patricia,

 

I want to share some wise words of wisdom that my mom shared with me (because doesn't mom always give the best advice?).  When Jill first got her diagnosis I was SO timid about following up with the vet.  She said to me at one point, "They are people too.  How do you think they would be acting if it were THEIR pet they needed follow-up info or had questions, concerns about?"

 

Ever since she has said that, I haven't been shy about calling, emailing......it's true, be a NAG, be Atlas' advocate!  Vets love their pets (I made a rhyme!) just like we do, think about how they would react if they were in our position........

 

All my love to Atlas, I hope he is feeling better!!!!!

 

xoxo,

Erica & Jill

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo


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15 May 2013 - 9:23 pm
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I would just echo what others have said; I would have a frank discussion with the vets at the vet school and explain the hygromas and the lip sores.  I'll bet they might be able to schedule his chemo differently especially if  you have your regular vet do the cbc the day before.  I sometimes bring my big dogs to work with me (Julian my current Mastiff weighs 225#) and even if I bring tons of blankets and dog beds and walk them a few times a day they are definitely sore from the concrete in the runs.

I waited to do acupuncture with Tazzie until after she was finished with all of her carboplatin injections mostly because she just got so tired!  We were lucky and did not have many digestive issues but I think I expected her to return to normal too fast.  I wanted her to go to the dog park and enjoy walks around the block but it was pretty apparent that she just wanted to hop around the yard and play a little with the other dogs.

Atlas looks like a big sweet boy!

Pam

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15 May 2013 - 9:57 pm
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And yet another bonus of belonging to this site is it's a great place to vent:-) :-) Best place in the world:-) :-) This is a star harbor for all those "beating yourself up" thoughts.....a place to dump 'em....unload 'em....cover 'em up with dump truck loads of concrete and never have to visit them again:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

It's. sooooo hard to watch Atlas. not feel well.....kinda' like revisiting the first week of surgery recovery......and you stayed strong g and helped him power through it......just like you are doing now.....and he will get better:-) :-) Looks a lot like surgery recovery......here we are waiting to celebrate the happy poop dance AGAIN:-) :-)

You know how you are going to move forward.now but, as you know, you cannot move forward with one foot stuck in yesterday:-) :-)

We've all had similar situations in one wah or another and it's much easier to "give advice" than it is to follow it ourselves sometimes:-) :-)

Please give us an update tomorrow and especiallh'let us see another cute picture:-) :-)

Time to repeat one of y favorite life lessons that I have yet to master...........

.......give me patience and hurry up......I need it NOW!!:-) :-) :-) :-)

Truckloads of love to you and Marc and Sophie and the Mighty Atlas

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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15 May 2013 - 10:26 pm
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Wanted to add that Atlas is just a little over two weeks after surgery.......on top of everything else you are still seeing the ups and downs of the recovery process AND the zapping that the chemo treatment can give him!! I think it was Spirit Maggie the pug (Karen) Who took six weeks of ups and downs in the recovery process and then excelled in living a joyful life:-) :-)

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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16 May 2013 - 2:52 am
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Arh Patricia, I'm just catching up on your posts.

Hang in there, every decision you are a making is made with love and lots of thought.

Us amp pawrents all feel like we have stuffed up somewhere along this journey, but you are fighting Atlas's cancer and cancer fights dirty. There is no way to know exactly what will happen with each treatment, what will be too much for him, what he can physically handle, you are making the best choices that you have available to you.

I so know the guilt, when Porthos was first diagnosed I couldn't believe why, when I was younger, I hadn't trained to become a specialist in OS for giant breed dogs with Veterinary PT skills and maybe throw in a bit Veterinary acupuncture! I became a dancer instead, so I made the best decisions I could for him and every decision I made was with love.

I can hear in your words how strong you are and Atlas is so very lucky to have you fighting along side him.

I agree with your decision to give the PT a little rest, he tried it, they rushed him and seemed to stress him out, you know now, let the anguish go, Atlas loves you, you love him, that's all that really matters!

 

Big hugs for you and Atlas xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Amanda & Angel Porthos

 

 

 

 

Angel Porthos, Pyrenean Mastiff, 7 years old Os front right leg, DX 18 May 2012, Amputation 14 June 2012, Hip Dysplasia, Two TPLO surgeries. Is now somewhere over the rainbow, 21 November 2013.

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16 May 2013 - 6:58 am
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Thanks everyone, funny how we need those reminders just to breathe sometimes. Atlas has another restless night and I'm thinking this is his side effects of the chemo. He just seems too exhausted to even get up. Once he's up he can get going and make it out to potty, but the getting up is a real struggle as he trembles and struggles just to get his feet under him. So hard to watch. crying
We are going to relax and take it a day at a time and hope that his strength comes back after that nasty chemo wears off.

Here's what in hind sight we would say to the rehab folks:
- this is too chaotic, please stop all 3 of you asking us questions at the same time while working on Atlas
- can we please slow this down, it's all new for us
- let's get his history done first before you move in on him
- please take a moment to greet Atlas and let him check you out and get comfortable with you before you put your hands on him
- stop man handling him and tell me what you want, Atlas is well trained and will comply with whatever I ask of him, just tell me what position you want him in and I will put him in a down stay, but stop forcing and pushing him around!

Ok, had to get that out before I could get my foot unstuck from yesterday. Now I've let it go and am in today.

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16 May 2013 - 8:14 pm
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Good news.... Atlas rested the entire day (day 3 after chemo) AND he went out and did a big poopy and it was normal.  (YEAH!)

He ate a late dinner but had a good appetite then stood up real straight for a few minutes before laying himself down in a very controlled fashion and did a nice long stretch for himself.  Looks very clear eyed and walked over to daddy for a head plant and ear scratch.  clap

Tonight we sleep good!

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16 May 2013 - 8:43 pm
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Woweee this is the best news I've heard all day. Atlas, we were talking about you earlier and hoping you were feeling better. I can sleep well tonight knowing you're so much better than yesterday, and your folks sound like it too.

May tomorrow be even better!

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16 May 2013 - 9:57 pm
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OH YAY!!!.....relieved but not really surprised:-) :-) :-) That Atlas just needed to get Ihis "groove" back_______after those (people that I hope you don't go back to see) did just about everything wrong....and they're the darn "pros"? Scary people!!

Gosh, so many lessons here for all of us....what a teacher Atlas is:-) :-) He's such a bright Professor:-) :-)

Sweet dreams Patricia, Marc, Sophie and the Mighty Atlas!!

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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16 May 2013 - 10:05 pm
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YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo

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17 May 2013 - 6:03 am
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He looks great!  I'm so relieved! clapclapclap

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Atlas went for his first CBC today after his first chemo and we got the great news that his WBC is normal and he's doing great. He's a little dehydrated so were working on more fluids now. We went to our local vet just 10 minutes away and they fax it to the vets at UGA. So we went in and followed his normal routine of getting on the scales, but its so close to the wall he had hard time maneuvering so he sat half on the floor. His doc rushed in to physically assist him (push) and Atlas immediately manned his battle stations. This time I spoke up and said, wait! Stop! I asked the vet tech hovering to our right to please give us space and lead Atlas to a half circle while doc kicked the scale out from the wall, then Atlas walked right on to it and sat. 127 lbs. (155 pre amp). Good boy! I'm learning how to better assist my boy every day. He's a little claustrophobic post amp and likes to turn to the right most often( no wonder there). He is not used to people pushing "helping" him around and considers it bad behavior from humans so he fights it, but does well when given patience and space to do it himself. So grateful to know this guy, He really is the most amazing canine I've ever known and I've known quite a few but none who were quite so human and Buddha. clap

So 5 minutes after we got home, UGA calls to review his CBC. Now that's impressive! This time we drew someone named Ann, who we have never spoken to before. She said the doctor said the results looked good and how was Atlas. I gave her a good report .... good appetite, good potty, just very tired day 2-3 and updated them as to our change in deciding to postpone rehab until after chemo. I also took the opportunity to ask them to work with me in his next chemo appt. I explained the hygroma, sores, lips, dehydrated, etc.. And we just didn't want to keep repairing damage or inviting infection when we need to focus on beating cancer and that its no ones fault he just doesn't behave in the kennel so were not going to kennel him anymore. That we would work around their schedule and bring him for bloodwork or let our local do then bring him in for the chemo whatever they like. It was like talking to the wall, she just repeated that we still had to bring him and leave him because they didn't know when the pharmacy would get his chemo up. But they would put him in a smaller kennel so he couldn't move. (Oh yeah, that'll help!!!! WT????). I just calmly said, no we won't be kenneling anymore. I will wait with him in the waiting room or our van until you are ready for him. She started to repeat what I'm sure is well ingrained policy. I simply asked her to speak to Our Onco doctor and that I'm sure they understand Atlas health is my main concern. She said they would get back to me.

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20 May 2013 - 2:09 pm
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Great job Atlas and YAAAAAAAAAAY VIKING WARRIOR MOM::-) :-) -) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Atlas has such a SROG ADVOCATE on is side and she's NOT backing down:-) :-) :-)

Yes indeed Isure do understand the "talking to a brick wall". concept.....lot of brick wall people I dealt with too! AND YOU STICK TO YOUR GUNS AND I KNOW YOU WILL!!

Atlas CANNOT experience another "cluster.............-":-) :-) like they put him through that time!! AND WILL NOT!!!

Love ow you stepped in when they tried to push him on the scales-------you know your Atlas better than anyone:-) :-)

Can't wait to hear about your conversation with the vet.................YOY are doing what's in Atlas's best interest:-) ------not theirs!!

HAPPY DAY FOR YOU:-) :-) :-) Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Hi Patricia,

Sounds like things went really well at the weigh-in. Atlas advocated for himself nicely and you provided interpretation. No chance for miscommunication there! 

As for the brick wall Ann lady, I think you did the right thing by passing this on to the oncologist. Let him deal with it. You had your say and you gave excellent reasons. 

I wonder, if they had a human child who was hospitalized and at the end of the day had injuries or worsened injuries, would they defer to the docs and allow that to happen? I think not. Maybe you could ask them about their perspective on that possible scenario.

You can always threaten to pick up your marbles and go home. You can tell them you may need to seek treatment at another practice if they can't do it your way. Of course, you run the risk of them telling you goodbye, so you might want to see if there is indeed another practice you can use. They can't be the only fish in the sea around there. But if you show up at the next appt. with Atlas's bed and a book and demonstrate your determination to park in the waiting room, what choice do they have? It seems silly arguing over whether he lays down by you in this room or alone in that room. Again, think of human children. What would they do?

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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