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Awesome! So glad you can see them! Prepare for lots more photos then! Haha!
It’s 5am and Tuni just threw up. Just a little clear throw up, nothing significant. Would the denmarian cause her to throw up after 14 hrs from taking the pill?
I do have to say that Possum has been throwing up a lot more lately. Yes, she is my puker, but usually clear throw up. There’s been food in her throw up everytime now. And it could be a lot that she throws up … Very liquity. Last time she was like this, it was after she started her HT meds. This happened a few times actually and she wouldn’t eat, so I would stop the meds until she eats again (usually after 24hrs). She hasn’t missed a dose of HT med in about 7 months though (just mentioning this cause I know you will say to never miss a dose 😆). And her appetite is still there. Both kitties appetites are still there. So I don’t know what’s going on. It’s frustrating, that for sure!
So many things can cause puking. You need to figure out how recently this has begun and pinpoint it.
It is not like we have one new thing to look at, which is why logging all this helps. It can become too much to remember. Meds, supplements, behavior, appetite, poop, pee, and others -(e.g. vomiting etc. and fill in each day.
Maybe Blue Wildnerness changed something in their recipe. You would have to email them to find out. They can substitute ingredients and do not need to inform, which is highly frustrating. I had to do that with a company once & sure enough, they changed the recipe. You can also look at recent reviews and see if anyone else has issues.
Call the vet as they told you to keep them posted and possibly stop the denamarin with their advice.
You have liver issues, thyroid and thyroid meds & new supplements. It could be any or all or something entirely different, Im not trying to scare you. We have to start somewhere. The thyroid med is not new for Possum, three months new on Petuanis? I would have to go back and look. They both had labs done recently, so I'm leaning toward their food or the denamarin . Let the vet advise you what to do.
YAAY on posting images. Good job on both the posting and the bed setup. I'm glad Petunia is having no issues getting up and down! Plus, it is better for your back, etc, getting in and out;)
((((HUGS)))
I hope it isn’t the food cause I just got 2 months worth delivered the other day. And it is the best food I can find that is low carb. Do you have any knowledge for tummy “rumbling” in cats? Possum has been having these for 6 months. I kept meaning to ask the vet about it, but it’s not all the time, so I forget about it. I did have wonder if it is me putting the HT med in the same capsule with gaba. Then again, I’ve been doing these capsules for 2 weeks now, and denamarian is known to make cats throw up. How long did you do the milk thistle? So far I’ve done 7 days on this denamarian med, and did 4 or 5 days on the chewable ones. But not sure if we can even count that since there was a week or so between the meds. It’s possible that Petunia has been throwing up longer than 2 days ago, but 2 days ago was the first time I seen her throw up in FOREVER! Like more than a year? Two years?
Tuni seems to be in good spirits though. Eating great. Her walking hasn’t been showing much strength this morning though, which makes me sad. She seems weak.
Purrkins has been on a milk thistle since 2016 -
He has been on phenobarbitol since January 2021 and needs extra liver support. When his values went up in Oct 2022, we needed extra support, and the vet added in the denamarin
along with the milk thistle since Purrkins did not tolerate it; we decided to increase the milk thistle dosage (doubled it) per the vet, which put our values back in range.
IF something has changed in their food and it is the issue, Chewys will refund! IF IF AND IF there are too many, what is the cause?
Saxton had a grumbly tummy, IBS, constipation issues a bad gut.
I make notes to go to the vet so I don't forget. I have one list and give her the same. We go down it and any concerns together.
I do NOT believe the gel capsule would make any difference other than it being helpful - putting thyroid in it will cover up the bitterness of the meth; look on the io groups about how nasty that pill is.
Awe, she is so cute. Great job playing on the comforter. Are you booked to go back to the rehab therapist? I thought you were, but not as often, keep at your home exercises.
Are you giving the denamarin today, then, or skipping it? What did the vet say if she threw up today cease? or?
Give them a smooch from us please
hugs
I suppose I was asking about the milk thistle cause I was curious if denamarian is used just for short term, or if people use it as long term. Wasn’t sure if milk thistle is the same thing.
You are right about logging things. It wasn’t until last year when things got crazy, so I wasn’t used to logging anything. I suppose I just trusted my mind to remember to ask them about it next time I call them.
I am going to give her the pill this afternoon and see how she does after it. If she throws up again, then I’ll definitely call them. I just want to be 100% that is her reaction after taking the pill. P&P’s regular vet usually works Thursdays evenings, so if I called, I definitely want her to be there when the information is passed to the doctors.
As for the food, there have been times when the consistency of the food doesn’t look right … too watery. I end up tossing those out. I should return them, but reading comments just earlier today, I am not the only one who noticed that. I was kinda curious of that food is what did it. The new package of food is normal looking, but I will call to see if they did recently change the ingredients.
I meant to do this this AM, but I will start giving Possum the pill using the pill gun and see if that makes a difference. Maybe that was the thing all along. The vet is actually th one who told me there was no taste to it. And Possum had no issue eating it, as in she didn’t even eat around it.
I am curious … what were Purrkins liver values? Any known reason why they went up in 2022?
There is actually a mattress pad/topper under that blanket. I finally resorted back to my office desk (from working in the back room on the couch) so it’s a space that Tuni can hang out it. She loves to be around me. The other day, she just followed me everywhere I went. It was so sweet.
I cancelled all rehab appts. I need a break on funds. It’s getting bad. But told her I plan on scheduling acupuncture sometime in the near future. Tuni has her solensia shot scheduled for Sunday.
Don't take my word for it; look on the thyroid board - search "methimazole bitterness." There are pages upon pages on the subject. I trust hundreds of members' input. That's me! I'm not telling you what to think or believe.
Yes, check your food reviews and email the company to confirm if something has changed in the recipe. Chewys will back you 100%. No worries there about the cost.
Yes, I was just telling another member the same thing about keeping a log and notes; our brains are great for so much info, but when you have 2 cats and multiple things going on, it's the only way to keep track. Your mind might think she doesn't puke that often, but when you have it documented, it makes everything crystal clear. 
Here is our chart on ALP and alt. we don't want it getting out of range, and we (the vet and I ) watch these numbers closely because of the phenobarbitol.
I am guessing Petunia's are a lot higher and OUT of range?! So when we saw the 120 and 61 we increased the liver support. Our hope/prayer and what we are working on is getting Purrkins off the phenobarbital, and we won't need so much liver support. I will continue a smaller milk thistle dose if we succeed.
Both of those can be used safely in the long term. You have not been on the supplement long enough or consistently enough YET to see improvement in Petunia's values. If she continues to throw up, there is no point in using it, and you will need to find an alternative IF THAT is the cause.
I can't produce or remember all these numbers in my head, and I have to look it up. This is what I mean by keeping everything logged somewhere. I have an ongoing chart on labs and values and have all the boy's life.
Two hundred twenty-four mentions on "methimazole bitter" in the search subject. Sorry, I typed bitterness above.
I would do the gel cap in both girls and see if it helps it can't hurt.
Keep us posted, and I SO HOPE Petunia does not get sick today, and if she does call the vet as you planned to for her advice.
Hugs
Petunia’s ALT went from 43 (April) to 93 (Sept) to 245 (Dec). (27 to 158 normal range)
ALP: 91 to 141 to 183 (12-59 normal range)
AST: 20 to 24 to 49 (still normal range, but increases)
GGT: 2 to 2 to 7 (0-6 normal range)
I do love that you make preventative measures. I never had cats before P&P so I am not very knowledgeable. I definitely am now!
Petunia threw up again. Called the vet and they said discontinue it to see if she continues to throw up then we know it is that. Then was told I can just get her bloodwork done and see where she’s at. I asked, “but she wasn’t on the liver supplement long enough to do anything with her values. Is there an alternative?” And she said an ultrasound and I told her that I don’t want to immediately jump to that. That is when I brought up milk thistle. So she asked the vet doc and I was told she will be calling me later. Unfortunately their normal doc must be on vacation cause she won’t be in until Monday. I did add on the bloodwork Sunday, along with Solensia. Not sure if I should get it done. What do you think? Any chance that maybe the Clavamox helped her values? I am so unbelievably stressed. Ultrasounds are so expensive. Now I kinda wonder if I should have started with that instead.
She also brought up maybe giving her the denamarin that she was originally prescribed. I told her she wasn’t on it long enough to know if she would’ve reacted to that since it took 6 days until Petunia started throwing up. I need to ask if there is a difference. Any insight? I feel like I’m gonna have a breakdown. This is becoming too much.
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