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10 days post-op and having a bad couple of days
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19 May 2014 - 1:52 pm
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Hi there! Lily, my 8 year-old Great Dane had a rear amputation (osteosarcoma) on May 8th. She has done fantastic during recovery and I am in awe every day of how quickly she is adapting. However, starting yesterday afternoon she started acting unusually. She is limping a little on her right front leg and her appetite is not great (and she is normally Miss Piggy). The thigh muscles above her stump are doing a lot of massive rolling spasms. And our usual goofy, happy, loveable Dane is isolating herself in another room and when we approach her she will tolerate a few scratches and then she will get up and move or leave the room. I took her in to the vet today to have her staples removed and voiced my concerns. They seemed to think this is all normal and that the appetite will improve as we wean her off of the Tramadol. They couldn't find anything wrong with her front leg. I asked about "phantom limb" pain as a possible cause for the big muscle spasms and maybe her unusual behavior but they sort of shrugged it off (they are a little skeptical that dogs actually experience phantom limb pain). I did try some heat on the muscles and she bailed on me pretty quickly. She seemed to be okay with a little massage of the area.

I know the first few weeks/months are supposed to be pretty tough and maybe this is just one of those bumps in the road. I am curious if any other Tripawd parents out there have had similar experiences and may have some words of wisdom?

Lily the Great Dane (she was actually a lot more than just "Great") joined our family as an ornery puppy on December 20, 2005 and changed our lives forever. She was diagnosed with osteosarcoma in early May of 2014 and her right rear leg was amputated on May 8, 2014. She sailed through 5 rounds of Carboplatin and 15 weeks of Pallladia. She hopped on 3 legs like she was born to it and continued to fight cancer with grace, valor and an abundant sense of humor...and always a *giant* smile on her face. Lily had two small nodules on her lungs but was brought short by a brain tumor in late December, 2014. Lily earned her wings on December 28, 2014 and we miss her terribly every day. http://lilyt.tripawds.com

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19 May 2014 - 2:48 pm
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I'm sorry to hear that Lilly has been having a tough time. I can't weigh in on phantom limb pain because we didn't experience it with Murphy, but in the past year and a half on this site, I can tell you that there have been numerous dogs (and cats, too) who have experienced it, so I don't understand why your vets thought that dogs don't get it. I know that some of the others will chime in with suggestions for you. There are medications they have used that do help with the symptoms. You might also post a question in the Ask a Vet section. Having your research done when it comes to discussing this with your vet will go a long way.

Kathi and Murphy

Murphy is a five year old Lab/Chessie cross. He was hit by a car on 10/29/12 and became a Tripawd on 11/24/12. On 2/5/13, he had a total hip replacement on his remaining back leg. He has absolutely no idea that he has only three legs!

UPDATE: Murphy lived his life to the fullest, right up until an aggressive bone lesion took him across the Rainbow Bridge on April 9, 2015 and he gained his membership in the April Angels. Run free, my love. You deserve it!

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19 May 2014 - 3:29 pm
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My girl, Shelby, developed some peculiar habits after her amputation. First she took to isolating herself in the bathroom (odd) but made it sort of her nest, den area. She wouldn't really come out of there for the first month or so. She never lost her appetite but definitely seemed rather aloof. She was also a rear amp and I did notice some twitching (I think). Her vets also didn't think she was having phantom pain . We weaned off tramadol pretty quickly as it made her psychotic (lots of pacing, etc) so we put her on an anti-anxiety med (trazadone) and that did help a bit.

But everyone here just said Shelby was basically nesting in my tiny bathroom as a den to recover. 10 days is still really early in the recovery process so I would suspect that is part of it (I am not a vet though).

It did get better for us about 3 - 4 weeks in and then Shelby was great. She would only retreat to the bathroom then as a passive aggressive thing if I was going out or something.

I hope things get better!

 

Alison & her Shelby fur-ever in her heart  

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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19 May 2014 - 3:56 pm
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Thank you Kathy and Alison for responding! Alison, I am glad to hear you experienced something similar and Shelby snapped out of it. You're right to say that's it's still really early in recovery....these guys get back on their feet so fast I guess you just start to take for granted that everything else will progress as quickly! It's just hard to see my "little" lap dog acting so miserable and aloof. I am hoping weaning her off of the pain meds will help. And time. We are going to take her on a very short walk this evening to see if that improves her mood. She did seem to perk up when I put her in the car to take her to the vet...

Lily the Great Dane (she was actually a lot more than just "Great") joined our family as an ornery puppy on December 20, 2005 and changed our lives forever. She was diagnosed with osteosarcoma in early May of 2014 and her right rear leg was amputated on May 8, 2014. She sailed through 5 rounds of Carboplatin and 15 weeks of Pallladia. She hopped on 3 legs like she was born to it and continued to fight cancer with grace, valor and an abundant sense of humor...and always a *giant* smile on her face. Lily had two small nodules on her lungs but was brought short by a brain tumor in late December, 2014. Lily earned her wings on December 28, 2014 and we miss her terribly every day. http://lilyt.tripawds.com

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19 May 2014 - 4:24 pm
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Snoops went through his recoup very well, but he was a bit strange before he came off his meds. Once we rounded that bend we improved again. Your still new into recouping, for most a month makes a significant difference. He may have just hit a pothole in the road. I'm sure he'll be back up and moving forward. If your concerned I wouldn't hesitate to contact your vet again.

Good luck,
Esther and her Snoop

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19 May 2014 - 4:34 pm
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Her avatar icture is soooooo cute.

Sorry you had to come to this site but, you cold not have a better group of people to walk by or side on this journey!

Yes ten days if very early in recovery. Actually, I think most vets wait approx. fourteen days to take stitches out. Every dog's recovery is different though. I would jst continue to keepmher quiet and not dong any jumping, etc. to continue to give the surgery site time to heal.

My Happy Hannah was very miserable for the first two weeks plus. She actualy stayed n pain meds into themthird week (reduced by that time).

And YES, dogs are treated here all the time for phantom pain ! The computer geeks will give you the links, but just search phantom pain here and treatment...you'll find a lot of info. And Gabapentin is a drug that helps quite often. The nerves are still firing off signals to muscles that aren't there...causing the twitching that you are seeing. Ok, the disclaimer..I'm no vet but that could be part of her issue.

Is it possible that she has been overdoing it? Maybe she pulled a muscle, piched a merve in her back, etc. Dogs REALLY need to take it easy the first two weeks.

It's not common for meds to interfere with appetites, but the fact that she's been eating all along would make me think it's something else...something possibly pain related.

We're all big here on second opinions, so don't hesitate to have Lily evaluated if she continues to feel whacky.

I'm sure the vet checked her temperature and eliminated possible infection.

It simply may be that she did too much too fast and it's just now starting to catch up with her. Is she n Rimadyl or Metacam? Is she still limping today?

Yeah, ou're exactly right to try and give her something to do she likes...the car ride, jave a special friend comeover amd ring the doorbell and acr all hapy to see her...stuff like that!

Yeah, SHELBY definitely did some "unusual stuff".....it was stressful for Alison....but also very adorable of Shelby!

I can tell you this, my very first post here was something like..."My Bull Mastiff had her leg amputated six days ago and I'm afraid I mad a horrible decision".....something like that...amd I felt that way for avout two weeks! Some dogs...especialy BIG dogs, jave a slower recovery than others. She'll get her sparkle back and she will be pain free and enjoying more spoiling and loving than you ever thought possible.

Oh, and by the way......best decision ever!!

You are not alone, okay? Grab some chooclate and eat it til your tummy hirts! It's worth the tummy ache!

Hugs to you and the lovely Lilly!

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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19 May 2014 - 5:22 pm
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My Jake had phantom limb pain, diagnosed by his onco. She even told us in the beginning he might experience it and said it happens because when the nerves are cut they just dead end. They don't know what to do so they keep sending signals like normal (but there's no leg there to receive the signal). She prescribed him Gabapentin and it really helped. We actually weaned him off tramadol and just had Gabapentin as a pain med. It was all around just better for Jake. If you google phantom limb pain, you can read the descriptions about what it feels like to people. I would assume its the same for dogs. Also, this is just a rant but, if humans can experience phantom leg pain why do people think dogs don't? I have never understood that....but I digress. 

This might be something you can try. I wish I would have had one, I've read good things about it. 

http://gear.tri.....-relief/ 

Mom to Tripawd Angels Jake (2001-2014) and Rosco (2012-2015) and Tripawd Tanner. “Whatever happens tomorrow, we had today; and I'll always remember it”  

      

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19 May 2014 - 9:48 pm
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Grr. It really gets my goat when vets don't believe phantom pain is real in animals. If they would ask any human amputee they'll tell them how real it is. Every one we've met says they believe it's real in animals too. OK, off my soapbox!

See my other response to you about massage, and also I agree, the Farabloc product can do wonders for many dogs. As she learns to use her new body in different ways it's natural for her to experience aches and pains, but there's a lot you can do to alleviate it, so don't lose hope, it does get better.

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Hi! My 7 year old great dane Bailey had the same thing going on she would go into a spare bedroom and her incision site would be spasm to where you could see it move and she did not want to be bothered.  Our oncologists said increase her pain meds but that only made her throw up and then someone on here said try warm cloths on the area and just pat dry just make sure it's really clean.  My personal vet said it's a muscle that's there... if you notice as time goes on that muscle will move like the leg is still there.  Bailey when she goes to chew a bone laying down you can see that muscle roll like she is bringing her leg there to hold it (yes it hurts the heart but she is very happy.) Bailey had her surgery February 7th and here she is today.  They removed Bailey's shoulder also.

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One other thing if you google Tramadol in canines with cancer symptoms it can cause shaking, drooling, panting, spasm etc.  Bailey couldn't stay on it.  She just doesn't tolerate meds well.  She weighs 127.8.  Goes Thursday for round 4 of chemo - carboplatin.

It gets easier and muscles in front will be sore from using them a different way and shifting weigh.  Hang in there.  We are all in this together.  You did this for her and not to her... praying for full strength and quick healing!

 

HUGS,

Tracy and Bailey

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Here's another comment to me from another tri-paw mom.  Her Nova lived a long time after treatment and crossed the rainbow bridge after a cyst on her spine and glaucoma.

She has Darla The Great Dane (service Dog on facebook) I had asked her about Nova doing this and this was her response.  Hope this helps.

 

"Hmmmm.... I don't know. Nova always had a terrible time with Tramadol. It made her tremble and panicky and she was panting a lot. It's so hard with dogs, trying to know if they are in pain or not. My other dog takes Tramadol with no problem. If I were you, try increasing the Tramadol like the doctor says to see if she stops the shaking. If it doesn't seem to work, then perhaps it might be the medication causing the shaking."

 

HUGS,

Tracy and Bailey

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20 May 2014 - 6:54 pm
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Thank you all for your responses! I completely agree...there is no reason to believe that these guys don't experience the same side effects from amputation as we do. I was pretty discouraged when they wrote off my questions about phantom limb pain. I think I will touch base with Lily's regular doctor, who actually diagnosed her and has been wonderful throughout this process. She even visited Lily post-op on her day off!

I will have to give Farabloc a try....sounds very promising! Thanks for the suggestion!

Tracey: Bailey is beautiful! I am so glad she's adjusting and doing great. "You did this for her and not to her"...I read that and it really hit home. I have been feeling so guilty for what I have put her through and I really needed that wake up call!

Lily seems a little perkier today but she is still wanting to do her own thing. I am trying to give her some space and let her recover in he own way. We did take her for a very short walk to test out her Ruff Wear harness . She was happy to get out of the house!

Lily the Great Dane (she was actually a lot more than just "Great") joined our family as an ornery puppy on December 20, 2005 and changed our lives forever. She was diagnosed with osteosarcoma in early May of 2014 and her right rear leg was amputated on May 8, 2014. She sailed through 5 rounds of Carboplatin and 15 weeks of Pallladia. She hopped on 3 legs like she was born to it and continued to fight cancer with grace, valor and an abundant sense of humor...and always a *giant* smile on her face. Lily had two small nodules on her lungs but was brought short by a brain tumor in late December, 2014. Lily earned her wings on December 28, 2014 and we miss her terribly every day. http://lilyt.tripawds.com

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Yay! I'm glad Lily is doing better. Yes, sometimes more sensitive dogs do need space. I'm glad she was able to get outside, I'm sure it lifted her spirits.

Tracy, as for Nova, we're glad you met up with Sue, her Mom. Nova is a legend and one of our earliest members. This is her story. Dog save the Queen.

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