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Update on Levi and questions regarding "how to know when it's time" Pictures Also!
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Caledonia MI
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Not even sure where to begin...I guess we'll start with Monday.  Levi had the two seizures on Monday...if there was a third or more our vet says he may have a brain tumor...Well, there was never a third.  Tuesday he was completely exhausted but wednesday he perked right up.  We took him to our cottage and he went out on the boat.  I was starting to think that maybe it was just the sinus infection that had him feeling crappy.  Once the infection was gone maybe we would return to "normal" and have some time left???  Now today I'm just not sure what to think.  He does not like to get up in the morning and I had to force him to go outside and pee this morning.  His backend is very weak.  He has had back issues the whole time and usually 3 trip to the chiropractor and he's good to go.  So...we are going to the chiropractor today.  But....

I just don't know what to think...Is he feeling crappy because of infection and a back that is out of alignment?  Or, I was reading the symptoms online of a brain abcess.  The symptoms are "limb weakness" seizures" and they usually get a brain abcess after an infection sad  I know, doesn't sound good does it???

My plan is to go to the chiropractor today and see what she thinks of his back.  I am also going to call my regular vet and see what she thinks.  Levi got up this morning and ate some canned food (that's all he'll eat these day) But now he is back on the couch and just acts completely exhausted. To make things worse we leave for Florida Sunday night for 4 days.  He is scheduled to be boarded at our vet but if he continues to act so tired maybe it's time to let him go??? Oh my, I just don't know what to do.  This vacation couldn't be at a worse time.  Any thought would be appreciated.  Here is our pictures from wednesday.

http://www.shut.....G7Jy4ZMWN-

Levi was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 7-7-11
Ampuversary 10-14-11
Lung Mets Discovered 1-4-12. Chemo seemed to not be working so we switched to Artemisinin and other supplements. In May, Levi developed a sinus infection and started having seizures. The cancer had moved to his brain. We let him go 6-26-12.

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8 June 2012 - 9:11 am
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Well, he sure looks like he was a happy boy on the boat! But, I'm sorry the rest of your update is not so good. I can imagine how stressed you are about your vacation. I remember I had to go on a biz trip once when our beagle was very ill, and it was my worst fear that she would pass while i was gone. I hope your chiro and vet have good answers for you.

As for knowing... Abby just got a VERY tired look in her eyes. She gave me this look that said "I can't do this anymore." And I knew. I don't know if everybody gets that look, but we sure did. She was still wagging her tail and eating treats and handing out kisses when we went to her final appointment, so I doubted our decision - but it was time. The vet agreed it was time. He said "wouldn't we all want to go while we are still happy? Nobody wants to go while they are scared and in pain."

I hope you get some good answers. Will be thinking of you and Levi and your pack. I know how very hard this time is!!
Jackie, Angel Abby's mom

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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8 June 2012 - 9:25 am
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Sam was uncomfortable but walked into the vets last night on his own. He did have the "I'm tired" look. Perhaps is was my imagination because I knew in my heart if the vet found anything bad it was time. We are thinking of you. I know how hard the decision is

Spirit Samson was Spirit Tripawd Daisys four legged "brother" and ruled as the self proclaimed head of the Monkeybutt Federations East Coast Division. Lady Chunky Monkey stayed from Oct 2011 and left for the bridge in Apr 2012. Miss Perdy is left and has some big pawprints to fill.
Do you have what it takes to be a Monkeybutt? Find out more at the Monkeybutt Federation

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8 June 2012 - 9:55 am
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Levi sure loves the boat, doesn't he? What a beautiful dog, both of them! I know the feeling having trips to go on and things are going sideways with how your puppy is feeling. It is awful leaving but maybe him staying at the vet will let them see him in a different light and maybe that will give you a different perspective on things or clearer one at least. We will be thinking about you and Levi!

All our Best

Suzie and Rizzo

Jack Russell born in 2001. Mast cell cancer found Dec 2009 and right rear amputation. Five rounds of chemo done before all treatment stopped. Living life to the fullest!! Read my story at http://rizzo.tripawds.com

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8 June 2012 - 10:11 am
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He sure had fun on the boat, didn't he?  Love those pictures!  I'm sorry that the rest of your update isn't as happy.  With Chili Dawg, his cancer had returned and he was unable to walk the night before we took him to the bridge.  He also had "the look" in his eyes.  He smiled the day my husband carried him into the vet and you could see the relief in his eyes when they gave him the first injection.  Still makes me cry to think about that day.  It is a tough decision to make when they can't talk to you.

 

I will be thinking of you guys!

 

Jenna & Spirit Chili Dawgs pack

Diagnosed with OSA: 5/2/2011 Ampuversary: 5/11/2011 OSA returned in hip: 8/26/2011
Chili Dawg crossed the Rainbow Bridge on 8/30/2011 & is now pain free. He was my heart dog, and I miss him every day.

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8 June 2012 - 10:42 am
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All good advice above. Just like human illnesses, dogs will have good days and bad days. The thing is to keep track of whether the bad days are outnumbering the good. It can be so hard when your dog rallies for a good day and you question whether this is the 1 good day in a string of 7 bad or the start of a change to more good days. When we were in this same place with our dog Jack, I thought a lot about a dog book I had read once where the person described the line of good and bad. The author listed all the things that were on the good side of the line and and the things that would signal a slip to the bad side of the line. I had thought to myself when I read this many years before I needed it, that I would keep it in my mind as a tool on how to tell if it was time. It was hard when Jack would wag his tail and smile, but I came to think that was just what a person in a lot of pain would do if you visited them in the hospital. They would smile and try to rally for your visit or really exert themselves for one last outing to their favorite place. I think the eyes are the key. They really are the window to the soul and they can't hide the tired or the pain despite trying to rally for the people you love. 

When I was wrestling with the "is it time" question, I finally decided I would set an appointment with the Vet a few days out. If I panicked or questioned the decision or Jack had rallied for several good days, I would cancel it and know it wasn't time. Instead I felt some small measure of peace after making the call (obviously there were a lot of other emotions in there too, but peace was a new one after so many weeks of struggle and so it was a little easier to identify). We could focus just on the last few days with Jack instead of the elephant in the room.

Your vacation might actually be a blessing in disguise. I found it so hard to be at home in the days after Jack passed. It was too quiet and his things and memories were everywhere. My husband and I used every excuse not to be home in the first few weeks. You might find it easier to not be home when it is time. At least for a few days, it won't feel weird your dog isn't with you, because this isn't a time or place Levi would be with you anyway. 

There are no wrong choices when you are doing the best you can for someone you love. Hugs and peace to you and Levi.

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8 June 2012 - 11:14 am
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Thanks everyone.  I talked to his vet and she said that maybe he is just tired and maybe his back is "out" like it has been in the past...She thinks it's a great sign that there have not been any more seizures.  Today he finally got up and him and Koa are laying  in the front yard keeping an eye on things in the neighborhood smiley

If tomorrow goes well we will bring him in to be boarded on Sunday as planned.  The vet promised to keep an eye on him and check him over while he is there.  You guys are right.  I think it will be good that he is there.  They might have a better opinion of things when we get back...And if tomorrow is "the day" it will definitely be nice to not have to be home...Nothing we can do but wait and see now.

Levi was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 7-7-11
Ampuversary 10-14-11
Lung Mets Discovered 1-4-12. Chemo seemed to not be working so we switched to Artemisinin and other supplements. In May, Levi developed a sinus infection and started having seizures. The cancer had moved to his brain. We let him go 6-26-12.

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8 June 2012 - 11:24 am
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PS: I haven't seen "the look" yet. Maybe there's a chance for another rally for a couple months or so. even if we fix the current problems those lung mets have got to be getting large....poor guy.  The xray was pretty bad in Mid-March.  I'll keep y'all posted.

Levi was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 7-7-11
Ampuversary 10-14-11
Lung Mets Discovered 1-4-12. Chemo seemed to not be working so we switched to Artemisinin and other supplements. In May, Levi developed a sinus infection and started having seizures. The cancer had moved to his brain. We let him go 6-26-12.

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8 June 2012 - 11:39 am
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Loved your photos — those dogs are loving every minute of it and the scenery is gorgeous, too! At a better time, I would like to ask you how you do the whole Shutterfly album thing.

But for the important stuff ... depending on what your vet and chirpractor say, Levi's stay at the vet's might give him/her a good chance to assess Levi. On the other hand, I know how hard it would be to leave him when he is feeling so punk. With Sammy, it was a little easier. He hadn't really walked on his own for several weeks, although he seemed happy and continued to play ball (we rolled it to him) and other quiet games. One night, though, he started to whimper. I looked at him and it was "the look" that several others have spoken of here — a steady, pleading look that said, "OK, I am done." My heart sank and I wanted to believe I was wrong. But, the next day he wouldn't pee (and he hadn't the previous day, even though we had carried him outside) and was very listless. That night, he cried softly whenever one of us wasn't petting him. The vet came the next day and we released him from his suffering.

It is a terrible decision to make, but when their suffering eclipses the joy in life it is time to let go. Only you can advocate for your pup. My thoughts are with you. Please know that we are all here to support you as you struggle to know what is right for Levi.

Beth, Spirit Smilin' Sammy and MB Wiggly Wrigley

Smilin' Sammy, March 16, 2004 – Dec. 5, 2011
Golden retriever, diagnosed with osteosarcoma in September 2010 — right front leg amputated November 2010. He fought valiantly to stay with us; but a second diagnosis of osteosarcoma, this time in his left front leg, was more than our golden warrior could overcome. He loved his pack — and everyone else he met.

We loved him even more.
Thanks for the pennies, Sammy. They helped.

Caledonia MI
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8 June 2012 - 3:49 pm
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You can just go to Shutterfly.com and make an account.  Then you can upload your pictures that are already saved to your computer and organize them in different albums.  You can also do lots of fun projects like posters, canvases, mugs, etc.  we made a huge collage poster of the dogs to put up at our cottage!

Update-Both the Chiropractor and my Vet said to not give up hope yet.  His back was way out of alignment and she also mentioned that the muscles in his back legs were SUPER tight...probably from the seizures.  He may just need some time to heal those sore muscles.  he is also fighting an infection...I'm feeling much better about things now.  He seems A LOT better after the chiropractor and even barked in my face and "whapped" me with his one paw while i was doing sit ups. (This is one of our normal games we play smiley )

Hearing everyone's "end stories" is so helpful.  I am so grateful for the site.  Keeping hoping for the best everyone.

Levi was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 7-7-11
Ampuversary 10-14-11
Lung Mets Discovered 1-4-12. Chemo seemed to not be working so we switched to Artemisinin and other supplements. In May, Levi developed a sinus infection and started having seizures. The cancer had moved to his brain. We let him go 6-26-12.

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8 June 2012 - 4:22 pm
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Hooray for a good update! I'm always super unhappy too when my back is outta whack. Glad to hear it is "in whack" now after his chiro visit!

Glad to hear you got "whapped" - sounds like he's feeling much more spunky!

He's lucky to have a good Mama who takes such excellent care of him.

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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8 June 2012 - 4:41 pm
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yeah!!!  hope you have many, many more whappings to come!!!  what a tripawd warrior you have!!

 

charon & spirit gayle

Life is good, so very, very good!!! Gayle enjoyed each and every moment of each and every wonderful day (naps included).  She left this world December 12, 2011 – off on a new adventure.

Love Never Ends

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8 June 2012 - 6:37 pm
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Great news! Wishing Levi continues coaching your workouts laughing

Spirit Samson was Spirit Tripawd Daisys four legged "brother" and ruled as the self proclaimed head of the Monkeybutt Federations East Coast Division. Lady Chunky Monkey stayed from Oct 2011 and left for the bridge in Apr 2012. Miss Perdy is left and has some big pawprints to fill.
Do you have what it takes to be a Monkeybutt? Find out more at the Monkeybutt Federation

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8 June 2012 - 7:30 pm
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94vettegirl said
...maybe it's time to let him go??? Oh my, I just don't know what to do.

Many have found our reflections on going through the same difficult time with Jerry helpful in answering the question nopawdy ever wants to ask...

How We Knew When to Say When

Best wishes, the pictures are beautiful!

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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8 June 2012 - 8:34 pm
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Oh he looks like he's having such a great time out there on the water! Kudos to you for taking him out and living in the moment. A lot of people wouldn't have found the courage to go with the flow.

I'm so glad he saw the medical pros, and hope that he has lots more time to enjoy his pack. What a relief! All of us have our paws crossed that he starts to feel better, and stay that way, for a long time.

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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