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Raven has Chondrosarcoma
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Auburn, CA
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9 November 2009 - 11:39 am
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I just got the biopsy report from my friends at Auburn Univ who did it there (rather than my vet's lab).  I don't have a vet appt until tomorrow morning and he's not in today.  So, just curious if any of you can share experience with this kind of cancer? 

Dawn and Raven

 Rottie Raven, osteosarcoma at 8-1/2 years old, amputation in October '09 and in February '10 due to liver mets he went back to heaven where he came from.  raven.tripawds.com

Now I have Miles, rottie mix amputee from a shelter and traveled 1500 miles to find his way here through the Rescue Railroad thanks to tripawds.com.  miles.tripawds.com

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9 November 2009 - 12:59 pm
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Have you checked for discussion forum Chondrosarcoma search results?

Jacksmom started this very popular topic: Need support – chondrosarcoma lung tumors

Hannah Joy started another: Chondrosarcoma in Hip

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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9 November 2009 - 3:13 pm
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Dawn and Raven,

Once more the diversity of this community can help you determine your options.  While I cannot really comment intelligently on this type of cancer, I had to reply to let you know that you have our thoughts and prayers as you continue down this journey.

Bob & Cherry

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9 November 2009 - 7:19 pm
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Hi Dawn:

Here's the brief layman's terms as it was described to me by our oncologist.

Chondrosarcoma--if you are going to have cancer, this is what you hope. Usually.....if there is no appearance of lung mets at the time of amputation, then there's a high probability that the amputation got it all.  However, in our doctor's case, if we had been diagnosed with chondrosarcoma, she still would have suggested chemo just to be sure.  There's 'levels' of chondrosarcoma also, and the doctor will explain those to you.

Tika was diagnosed with chondroblastic osteosarcoma, how to explain that, I don't know exactly what the chondroblastic meant (probably type of cell) but the bad news was osteosarcoma, because osteosarcoma as I understand metastasizes easier.

Definitely search the web, you might not understand everything you read, but it will definitely help you form questions.  I am looking back at my journal and for last December it reads:  From what Tim (my husband) is understanding from the vet and oncologist, we hope for the diagnosis to be chondrosarcoma.

That might sound odd, but when you learn more, it will probably make sense...

--Kim and Tika

Kim and Spirit Tika http://www.tika.....ogspot.com

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9 November 2009 - 10:18 pm
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Before we got our diagnosis of osteosarcoma, our oncologist thought Jack had chondrosarcoma (he had an unusual tumor placement where OS does not normally form).  She said that had it been chondrosarcoma, amputation most likely would have stopped the cancer completely.  Never thought you'd be wishing for a specific type of cancer, huh?  Hope the "cure factor" is true for Raven!!!!!

<3 Laura and Jack

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10 November 2009 - 3:23 pm
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Good news--I think???  Thank you everyone for the input!
 
Chondrosarcoma is a cartliage cancer.  So, it doens't make sense that it originated in the middle of the humerus bone (why we thought we were dealing with osteosarcoma). 
 
The concern is that his origin may in fact his nasal cavity (more common in sinus and ribs), he's had a runny nose/sneezing for the last few weeks. And that it may have metastacized to the leg we removed.  Today we took films of head and ribs.  But Raven was squirming and I didn't want to pay for sedation on 110#.  He's never needed it in the others, but he was having an anxiety attack after all he's been through there.  So, they aren't the best shots.  But from Tom's perspective, he couldn't see metastasis in the lungs.  The nasal cavity looked clean.  He feels that the bones look good in all shots, but that they weren't the best films.  So, I've sent the films to my friends at Auburn Univ vetmed to have the radiologist/oncologist look. 
 
If these are truly negative, I think we are done?  Banking that it originated in the leg, is slow to metastacize, and we got it all.  Although chrondro is a cartliage cancer, so we are baffled as to where it started?
 
The lymph nodes were negative for cancer, but reactive (normal considering they were reacting to the cancer nearby). 
 
Relieved, I think!  We removed his drain today.  And stitched his peasized hole closed (with no local, wide awake, Rambo-style, what a GOOD BOY).  I can remove the stitches in one more week.  🙂
 

Yes, I do feel a bit guilty after reading the losses on this forum just now.  Devastating and sobering.  So, Jerry's post was goo timing.  I think and hope that everyone will be relieved like me to hear some good news.  Smiley

Exausted under his favorite tree (in which he has figured out how to "dig" a hole to lay down even with one front leg):

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Dawn and Raven

 Rottie Raven, osteosarcoma at 8-1/2 years old, amputation in October '09 and in February '10 due to liver mets he went back to heaven where he came from.  raven.tripawds.com

Now I have Miles, rottie mix amputee from a shelter and traveled 1500 miles to find his way here through the Rescue Railroad thanks to tripawds.com.  miles.tripawds.com

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10 November 2009 - 3:57 pm
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Dawn and Raven,

While we realize that this latest result is a little ambiguous, we are going to take your news as good!!!  Raven sure does look like he is enjoying life which is what this is all about.

Starting tomorrow, November 11, 2009, there will be five of us who will be celebrating our one year ampuversary over the next twenty eight days.  Each of these five is dealing with some extended complications or health issues and Cherry and I are sure that each has felt blessed with the additional time that we have been granted.  Each time we loose one of our warriors from this community, the entire community morns more for the valient story that has ended but too because of the "There but for the grace of God go I."  When we bring these loved ones into our home, we know that their time is too short but make the choice to feel the pain when that loss occurs rather than pass on the wonderful experience.

Good news is very important to help the spirits to those that are just joining this community.  It truely was inspawrational to read of any and all successes.  It let me know that what I was asking of Cherry was not just my shelfish holding on too tight.  It let me know that I had a good chance of having Cherry return to the quality of life that had defined her life up to that point.  This new "normal" is different, but it also is great.

I do not believe that guilt is the correct way to describe the empathy, sympathy and grieving that we feel as we lose on of our great warriors.  I do not believe that guilt is the correct way to describe the joy, celebration, and vicarious jubulation that we feel whenever one of our great worriors recieves good news.

Bob & Cherry

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10 November 2009 - 5:18 pm
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dsimas said: 

 
Relieved, I think! 

Stop thinking, and know that every day is a great day when loving life on on three legs! Glad to hear about Raven's great outlook, thanks for sharing.

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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11 November 2009 - 8:59 am
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Dawn,

Don't ever feel guilty for celebrating good news.  We just lost Emily yesterday and I dont know how we will go on without her.  However, I still want our other tripawds to make it.  Raven's good news didn't bring Emily's bad and I want you to celebrate every day you have with her.  Raven is beautiful.

Debra & Angel Emily

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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11 November 2009 - 10:23 am
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Bob with Cherry:  Okay, I guess I'm just overload on emotions, but what you said was so beautifully put it made me cry some more!  But more of a good cry.  Big Blink

Emily's Mom:  OMG, I just can't believe you lost her.  You were one of those that was there for that horrible night, honestly one of the worst night's I can remember, and I couldn't have made it without the inspiration and support of you and other Pawrents out there.  And now several of them are already gone and Raven is getting better.  It is so sad.  But, I hope that Raven will be a success story to inspire others over the coming months.  My sincere condolences for your loss of sweet Emily Girl.  *snif*

Dawn

 Rottie Raven, osteosarcoma at 8-1/2 years old, amputation in October '09 and in February '10 due to liver mets he went back to heaven where he came from.  raven.tripawds.com

Now I have Miles, rottie mix amputee from a shelter and traveled 1500 miles to find his way here through the Rescue Railroad thanks to tripawds.com.  miles.tripawds.com

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27 November 2009 - 12:51 am
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Hello Dawn and Raven - this is Kristina and Zoe here. This is my first post on the forums. It seems we are sharing similar stories although you are a bit ahead of us, so I'll be following you closely, if you don't mind. Zoe is a 9 year old Weimaraner and was diagnosed with Chondrosarcoma on her rear leg tibia just last week. We are going to go ahead with the amputation; unfortunately at the same time we were trying to diagnose the cancer in her leg, she had pancreatitis which caused liver issues and her liver numbers are still so high that it would be unsafe to do anesthesia right now. We are very impatiently waiting for them to get down to normal-ish so we can amputate which will take up to a month.

Anyway I just wanted to say that it is nice to come here and find a kindred spirit - someone else dealing with canine chondrocarcoma in the leg bones! Not an easy thing to find a lot of information on...maybe we can help each other out a bit. Best wishes to Raven, and you...and happy, happy Thanksgiving. We are so blessed to have these wonderful creatures in our lives! Boy am I treasuring every moment I have with her right now.

Raven is such a beautiful boy! He looks happy to me in his eyes in those post-surgical pictures.

- Kristina (and a sleepy Zoe dog behind her on the couch)

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