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nausea very quickly after 1st round of chemo
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4 June 2015 - 3:35 pm
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Hi, all. Ollie had his first round of chemo today (carboplatin), and my husband and I weren't too nervous going into it since so many people have said their dogs sailed through treatment with few to no side effects. Well, he's been home for about six hours and is already showing signs of nausea ... no vomiting but a lot of licking his lips and refusing to eat. We have Cerenia tablets and tried to give him one (first stuffed into some of his favorite things, then on its own when he refused all treats), but we couldn't get him to take it.

Pre-chemo, his appetite was awesome. Has anyone else seen this reaction so quickly after treatment? If so, did it last long? I was hoping our guy would have as easy a time with chemo as so many other pups seem to have had.

Thanks!
Karen

Six-year-old Ollie, a spunky, 55-lb. Australian cattle dog mix, was diagnosed with osteosarcoma May 1, 2015. Front right leg was amputated May 12. Did four rounds of carboplatin chemo treatment, ending Aug. 20. Lung x-rays still clear as of end of September. The rest of our story is still unfolding.

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I'm sorry Ollie is having a rough go of it ... Did they give him a shot of anti-nausea before you left? Shelby got that or it was in the chemo treatment but that did help. And we also had cerenia. I would call your oncologist and ask them. 

Poor guy... if you can get the cerenia in ... it should help but I would definitely check w/your oncologist. 

He also might be tired. It's exhausting on them... and while the licking is indeed a sign of nausea he might just want to sleep.

Another thing  - shelby got super picky about what she would eat ON - she would only eat on my china after her treatments (she had metal bowls) so maybe try that? 

Good luck!!! hopefully others will weigh-in. BTW - if I havent' said this before, I love his ears!!! 

Alison with Spirit Shelby in her heart 

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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Thanks, Alison. He's super lethargic and a few times I've been convinced we're seconds away from vomit, but it hasn't happened yet (there has been some burping, though). We'll try the Cerenia again in a bit -- just letting him rest now. Will definitely switch out his stainless steel bowl -- I know chemo can cause an awful metallic taste for humans and assume it can do the same for dogs, and a metal bowl could make that even worse.

These ups and downs get to me so much ... I knew we'd have rough days, but the whole point of amputation and treatment was to maintain quality of life ... and on days like this I start to lose faith that putting him through all this is actually doing that. I want to be treating because it's in his best interest but sometimes worry it's really not fair to him, and it crushes me.

Six-year-old Ollie, a spunky, 55-lb. Australian cattle dog mix, was diagnosed with osteosarcoma May 1, 2015. Front right leg was amputated May 12. Did four rounds of carboplatin chemo treatment, ending Aug. 20. Lung x-rays still clear as of end of September. The rest of our story is still unfolding.

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We went through about 3 weeks of nauseau with Ellie post amp (but pre-chemo) so I totally get where you're coming from. We knew Ellie wasn't in pain, but she was obviously feeling just rotten and it was just wrenching for us not to be able to make her feel better. She was miserable and it made us miserable. The thing that got Ellie eating again (once we got the Cerenia) was uncooked egg noodles! Bill kept objecting because they were so "hard" but she'd eat a whole handful and I wasn't going to stop her. 

After our experience, we gave Ellie sub-q fluids and a Cerenia injection at the vet and followed up with Cerenia 4 days at home for each chemo round. Her appetite would dip, but she never got like she was right after the amp. The vet will probably reduce the dose for the next round based on Ollie's reaction (that is what happened for Ellie), so the next round will be better too.

Another thing to try is to take Ollie for fluids. It is just supportive care, but the vet said it can often just make them feel a lot better. 

Good luck,

Bill, Denise and Ellie.

Active 10+ Pyr mix suddenly came up lame with ACL tear in left rear leg. Scheduled for a TPLO but final pre-op x-rays indicated a small suspicious area, possibly OSA, which could have caused the ACL tear. Surgeon opened the knee for TPLO but found soft bone. Biopsy came back positive for OSA. Became a Tripawd 9/18/14. Carbo6 with Cerenia and Fluids. Pain free and living in the moment. Crossed the Bridge on 7/12/15 after probable spread of cancer to her cervical spine. A whole lifetime of memories squeezed into 10 months. Here's her story: Eloise

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4 June 2015 - 7:46 pm
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Oh I'm sorry! We were told that side effects usually occur either immediately after chemo, or about 7-10 days later. Crazy I know.

Side effects are so tough but the cerenia should really help. Be strong, and if he won't take it with irrestible meats, cheese, whatever, pill him by popping it down his throat and he'll start to feel better in no time. You can do it!

Also, I learned a pilling trick recently; don't hold the pill in the same hand you hold the meat or treat or whatever you're using as a pill disquise. He will associate the meat with the scent of the pill. Do your best to just stick the pill inside the meat quickly without making too much contact hand with the pill. Does that make sense?

Also, other things you can do to help are located in our Tripawds Nutrition blog . Just search for "appetite" and you'll find lots of ideas.

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4 June 2015 - 8:29 pm
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Hi Karen,

So sorry your Ollie is having difficulty with chemo......I am starting to believe more pups than not have a certain degree of problems with it.

My Polly had an extremely difficult time with chemo, specifically the doxorubicin. I was able to pinpoint with accuracy after two months of her ending up at the vet E.R., that her symptoms started 36 hours after her chemo. She also received i.v. fluids, injectable Cerenia, and pepcid, mirtazapine to stimulate her appetite, and metronidazole for her diarrhea, and a bland diet when we could finally get her to eat again, which took about 3 days or so. We ultimately had to give Cerenia pills and metoclopramide pills in conjunction with each other,  and continue the pepcid, mirtazapine, and metronidazole, and bland diet for about 4-5 days after chemo. We were able to manage her excessive vomiting, diarrhea, and dehydration very well. She also lost about 60% of her fur, which is also very unusual for dogs but it all grew back eventually.

Hope my story helps you out a little..... the one thing we realized is we needed to head off the oncoming symptoms and not wait till they presented themselves, it is much easier to give pills and such when our pups are still feeling fine and have their usual great appetite. 

You and Ollie's vet can work together to make things very comfortable for him, and continue chemo. That was another thing that crossed our minds....if we couldn't get Polly managed during chemo, we would have had to stop. Once we did get her managed, she was able to complete 6 rounds of i.v. chemo, and 6 rounds of home chemo with cyclophosphamide. I also very much felt the way you do about amp and chemo giving Polly the best possible chance to have a longer, quality life.

I am positive you will be able to get Ollie managed and continue with chemo, and let us know how things are going for him.

Bonnie, Angel Polly, and new crew

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