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Max's Update: Lung Mets Discovered, Acts Very Healthy
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Orange County, CA
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3 November 2009 - 9:00 pm
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Hi all.  Well, for the first time in a long time, I have not-so-good news to report.  Max had his 2-month x-rays on Saturday (Halloween), and unfortunately, a single met was discovered on his right lung.  John and I were absolutely stunned.  We were 1,000,000% positive his x-rays were going to come out clear, just like all the others.  He has been so active lately, running, chasing, wrestling, dragging us around by the leash, you name it; we had not seen any symptoms of the met, so again, we were absolutely stunned.  I believe Tika’s Mom put it best when she once said, “It’s a kick in the gut.”  It was and still is.

The second kick in the gut came yesterday, when we found out Max’s main oncologist no longer works at the hospital.  We weren’t given a specific reason, only that it was “very sudden.”  So, that translates to me that he was either laid off/fired, or quit.

The third kick in the gut came this afternoon, when we found out the oncologist from the University of Michigan (Dr. Barbara Kitchell) that had done the initial consultation for Max back in November 2008 is also no longer at the hospital.  Luckily, she is still doing consultations via e-mail/phone, and we requested Max’s case file be sent to her. 

John and I are aware we have a lot to be thankful for, and there are some positives here:

  •  Max didn’t have lung mets when he was first diagnosed; he has gone almost 11 months without a tumor reappearing (we are well aware a lot of people on this forum were not as lucky when their pups were diagnosed)
  •  Max is not showing any symptoms of the tumor yet, he’s still acting like his old self
  •  His blood work all came out good (as usual)
  •  We believe the metronomic protocol did work for Max (to an extent), which is why only one tumor has developed as opposed to many
  •  Dr. Kitchell is still willing to consult for Max’s treatment, so the world didn’t quite come to an end (but it was close!!)

Dr. Kitchell is recommending one more round of carboplatin this Saturday, then follow-up x-rays in one month.  At that point, we will have some choices to make.  If the tumor is the same size or smaller, we can opt for surgery to remove it (since the best way to get rid of cancer is to remove it).  This comes with some prerequisites though:  a bone scan and CT scan of the lungs need to be completed first; if no micro-metastasis shows, then we can go through with the surgery.  This is the sticking point for us – we’re not sure how much we want to put Max through, especially since his time is a bit more limited than we thought.  The surgery can be done two ways, depending on exactly where the tumor is located:  either through the ribs, or a sternal split (like open heart surgery).  The sternal split is definitely out for us.  So, we’ll cross that bridge when (if) we come to it.

On the flip side of all this, our fun time with Max is accelerated somewhat.  So, that means that our Northern California counterparts (Cemil, Codie Rae, and everyone else up there) may get a visit from us a little sooner than we originally predicted.  We’re now thinking of doing our Carmel trip at the end of December, or early January.  (We’ll be in touch on that one!)

So, not great news for the Hollenbecks, but again, not the end of the world either.  And as a plus for some, we’ll be posting on the Angel Exchange for Max’s K9 Immunity .  We don’t need it at this point, so it’s up for grabs.  I’ll post what I have on the Exchange, and whoever wants it is more than welcome to it.

Okay, this is finally the end of my post.  I’ll update again in about a month or so.  Hope everyone and their babies are doing well.

Di & John & Max & Linda

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3 November 2009 - 9:15 pm
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Hi Maximutt

Darnabit. You are my hero and I so want you to have a clean bill of health. How it turns things upside down to find one lump when there were none (that puts it mildly) and then to have your two oncologists not be available any longer (and by default my oncologists - I guess that explains why we did not hear back from the last email!). 

You are right that one little lump after nearly one year is not all that bad. I guess operation is a possibility in that case. Sure hope it works out and you better let me know how things are going before one month goes by! I see your picture as I wolf my food down at every meal.

Tazzie 2

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3 November 2009 - 9:48 pm
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Oh guys, we are so very sorry. Thanks for letting everyone know, we understand it's not easy.

Mets are the news we all dread and never want to hear. But as you've already seen, Max is like so many of our Tripawd heroes; always strong, giving life all he's got. And he'll continue to do so, just watch. He doesn't know anything's different.

What lousy timing for those oncologists to split. But what a relief that you found Dr. Kitchell. The plan sounds really good, a month to consider the options is a fair amount of time. Remember, I can contact Lily's Mom so you can talk to her about their experience, if you'd like.

Interesting idea about moving up the Carmel trip, because we were thinking of doing a Northern CA Tripawds pawty sometime between Christmas and the end of January. Maybe we can work something out?

Hang in there. It's not easy but it's also doesn't mean that things are coming to a halt. Max will carry on and be his usual self as always. Follow his lead, his attitude can get you through anything.

Many hugs,

Rene, Jim, Wyatt Ray & Spirit Jerry

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4 November 2009 - 9:01 am
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Di & John & Max & Linda,

We are very sorry to hear of Max's diagnosis.  Personally, you have much more courage than I do for I have not done a follow-up x-ray since March and that one was more to check for torsion or a blockage of the intestine.  Yes the "kick in the gut" is an appropriate analogy but with a kick the pain is sharp but finite and this is one where the gut really never gets untied.  As you may have been following, there are five of us who are all approaching the one year ampuversary over a 28 day period starting with Nova on November 11.  We have every expectation that both Max and Tika will be there to help celebrate with the other three of us.  (Trouble is the fifth.)

I know that what ever your decision for continued treatment for Max will be the very best possible decision.  The add difficulties of losing trusted treatment team members and making it more difficult for others is very unfortunate.  (I actually have another set of words, but thought better of using such language.)  However, YOU WILL PREVAIL and be able to go the best for Max.

Keep us informed regarding your progress and for a TriPawd party.

Paws Crossed and Sening Pawsitive Thoughts (from the same city as Cemil)

Bob & Cherry

PS: In case you could not tell from the dribble above, I really am speechless and struggling for appropriate words but did not want to miss the oppertunity to voice our support to you.

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4 November 2009 - 11:31 am
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Hi Di and family

I'm shocked too, and at a loss for words.

You guys have our prayerful support as you start on this new path.  I'm hoping for a "glass-half-full" outcome.

Hugs and wags

Mary and Cemil

Cemil and mom Mary, Mujde and Radzi….appreciating and enjoying Today

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4 November 2009 - 11:47 am
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Max's news is sad. But I'm pretty darn sure that Max's glass is far more than half-full, it is probably only down to 15/16th now. Look how long he has gone already. I assume that means this is a very slow growing thing. Of course, I had hoped he had kicked this nasty business, but I'm sure we will be seeing Max's pretty blue eyes around here for a very long time.

By the way, Cemil, guess what I JUST received in the mail! I didn't know you could write, let alone with only one front paw! You and Max are sooo talented. I now have two of my favorite tripawds cheering me on when I eat breakfast and dinner!

Tazzie 2

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4 November 2009 - 4:05 pm
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I can only imagine how you feel right now.  I know how it shook my soul when Trouble had the cough develop.  We live each day hoping all will be well, but deep down we know we likely will face the monster disease again.

Look to our leader Spirit Jerry for strength.  Remember how long he survived after his met.  We must stay positive.  Many good thoughts for you and Max.  My thoughts will be with you.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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4 November 2009 - 4:55 pm
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Di & John & Max & Linda,

   I am so sorry that your last check up did not go so well.  I am glad though that it was only one lung met and that your new oncologist has a plan of action though.  Until I read your post I didn't know that surgery to remove a lung met was even possible. As you know Max could very well have a lot more time left in him.    Please let us know how he is doing and how you guys are doing well.  You are in my prayers.

Debra & Emily

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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4 November 2009 - 5:07 pm
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I was sorry to hear about Max's lung met. I hope that whatever treatment your vet has planned... will do the trick! Max is gorgeous!! Love those blue eyes of his...

Sending good thoughts and lots of prayers your way!!

Jake's Mom

Jake, 10yr old golden retriever (fractured his front right leg on 9/1, bone biopsy revealed osteosarcoma on 9/10, amputation on 9/17) and his family Marguerite, Jacques and Wolfie, 5yr old german shepherd and the newest addition to the family, Nala, a 7mth old Bengal mix kittie. Jake lost his battle on 11/9/2009, almost 8 weeks after his surgery. We will never forget our sweet golden angel… http://jakesjou.....ipawds.com ….. CANCER SUCKS!

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4 November 2009 - 5:45 pm
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Oh, man. I'm so sorry.  Seeing those lung mets suck.  The emotional roller coaster starts its final drop and keeps dropping it seems like.

I hope that you might get a shot at having the met removed.  Tika was not a candidate because when mets started showing, they blossomed all at once.  However, that was 5 months ago.  She went about four months until we started seeing issues, and today, well, today Tika looks awesome, the last few days were a bit shabby, but not horrible.

Any thought on doing inhaled chemo?  Unfortunately, it was too little too late when we decided on that path, we were trying less invasive options first.  

Keep your chins up guys, you still have a lot of time left with Max!!!

Take care,

Kim and Tika

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4 November 2009 - 6:38 pm
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Thanks everyone for your well wishes for Max.  Yes, the emotional roller coaster kicked in for us.  But, things are going well right now.  John took Max & Linda to the beach today, and Max chased two smaller dogs around (he loves smaller dogs; must be the hunting instinct!).  I asked John if he showed any signs of distress while breathing, shortness of breath, coughing, etc.  Not a sign!  So, I also think Max has quite a bit of life in him.  Can't guarantee we'll opt for the surgery, as we're not sure we would want him to go through that (assuming that he would even still be a candidate after a month's time).  But, he's a strong boy, and we love him.  Thanks very much to everyone!

Di

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7 November 2009 - 7:08 pm
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Listen to your heart, listen to your gut and listen to max - you will know what to do if you listen to those 3 things.

I'm so sorry for the kick in the heart. We never had the lung mets, so I don't know how that feels - but I can imagine.

It sounds like you're doing a great job following his lead at looking at the glass as half full instead of half empty...you rock, you really do. I'm sure it's hard, but we only have today, no matter what...just today and the gift in fighting this awful disease is that realization so that we can truly live in the moment...those precious and priceless moments.

Blessings from above,

Spirit Zeus (and mom too!)

Heather and Spirit Zeus - Our life changing journey…from the earth to the heavens…one day at a time…always together

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8 November 2009 - 1:29 pm
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Hello

So sorry to hear a bout the met. I fear that could happen to my Jack too as we are only one treatment into the Carboplatin. He has an xray before his next treatment.... I am thinking about you guys. Paw crossed and good energy sent your way

Erin and Jack

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8 November 2009 - 4:27 pm
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Hi Erin.  We like good energy, send it our way!  And be positive about Jack.  Keep in mind that Max was lucky enough to go 11 months after his amputation with no mets.  And even though it's there now, he is showing absolutely no physical signs of it.  He still runs, chases and wrestles just like he did before we knew it was there.  Many of the regulars at one of the local dog parks we frequent like to call Max a "trooper."  He is a trooper, just like every single dog and owner on this forum.  So keep positive, and give Jack some pets from us here in Southern Cal.

Di & Max

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