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Lili has been feeling under the weather for a couple of days.  She had her third chemo treatment just about two weeks ago, and I attributed her sluggishness to that.  Last night, however, she seemed more "off" than usual.  This girl doesn't miss meals, never has.  I have always thought that I will know when things are really wrong when dinner doesn't interest her.  Then, last night, the sound of the dinner bowl didn't get her up from her snoozing place.  I worried a little less when she eventually wandered in and ate, mostly because she was worried her brother would steal dinner.  

She also seems somewhat listless and uncomfortable.  Her tail still wags when we talk to her, and she barked her head off at the UPS man last night.  But I was worried enough to contemplate a trip to the emergency vet.   Watched her closely and waited for the specialist to open this a.m.  Fortunately, they squeezed us in early.  

First, the vet said Lili seemed nauseous, as she was droolier than normal.  She gave her a shot of Cerenia for that.  We have that at home, prescribed when we started chemo, but never thought she was nauseous as until last night, she never hesitated to eat a meal. 

Next, complete blood work.  WBC is actually fine now, as are liver and kidney function.  But, platelets are low (I didn't get the exact number but will ask when I pick her up).  Blood is being looked at by pathology to rule out a tick borne disease.  So mad at myself that I skipped the Frontline earlier this month.  We will know more tomorrow, but for now, I'm hoping that the platelets are just a side effect of the chemo and not a symptom of something else, and that the "funk" is just nausea that I didn't realize she had.  

Poor kid - this chemo is really taking a toll on her.  sad

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26 June 2013 - 11:50 am
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Grear to near from you for an all-in-all- fairly good report.

Barking! Check!

Tail wagging! Check!

Eating i(even of it's to keep brother out of bowl). Check!

Here's 2¢ on the low platlette count. Happy Hannah's blood work was all good on one of those "in between" follow-ups--except for LOW platelet. Turns out the test o. that is quite often in error because of something about blood thickening on slide ----or so e sorta' crap like that. Anyway, my vet wasn't worried because everything else was fine.....if it hadn't been fine then he would give more credence to platelet count. Anyway, even my incompetent onco agreed. She did test right before next chemo and all was normal..

So, it really shouldn't be a concern.

Has your o co. reduced the chemo dose age at all to lessen the nausea? She might have to have the cerenia n a more co distant basis. she's such a little to g!

Hope she feels more li,e eating today. PLEASE post an update and let us know! You know how we worry about our extended family! Especially when they're so darn cute!

So guess your o co is suggesting six carbo? (Did she laugh when you Tod her earlier about the onco in Virginia said a fifth wasn't necessary...just icing..blah blah blah)

PICTURE TIME:-) :-) WE WANT PICTURES!

Lots of love,

Sally and Happy Hannah

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26 June 2013 - 12:08 pm
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Poor Lily! I hope the cerenia is helping you feel better by now.

Please try not to worry until you know what it is you're dealing with, if at all. I'm going to bet it's just side effects from the chemo. Docs can always adjust the dosages, and you can always decide if Lily has had enough, so hang in there OK?

Hugs to you both!

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Thanks, guys.  I picked Lili up at the vet, but didn't get a chance to speak to our doc.  She is supposed to call tomorrow to tell me the results of the complete blood workup.  I will ask my zillion questions then, particularly about the Carbo dose since she has been struggling so much with the blood work between treatments.

The paperwork shows that her platelet count is 64000.  That's low, but not horrifyingly low from what I'm reading on the internet. 

I don't know that she feels much better.  Hasn't moved since she plopped down upon entering the house.  Can't tell if it's lethargy, nausea (perhaps exacerbated by the car ride home, though she doesn't normally get carsick), tired from a few hours with the vet, or what.  We did have to walk by the big food tupperware in the garage and she sniffed out an errant piece of kibble to gobble up.  Silly girl. 

Will give her a Cerenia pill tomorrow to follow up on the injection today, and fingers crossed that this passes.  

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Cerenia is a great drug.  Sassy never got car sick either until the last ride home she didn't throw up but I could tell she was definately naseaus. 

  The dosage probably will be lowered depending on what you find out is the cause of the low counts.  Hopeing that its good news for you.  Hope the adjustment if they do that will help. 

 

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Alrightee, well tomorrow is a new day so let us know how she's doing and what the vet says. We have our paws crossed that things are better overall.

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Keeping fingers crossed this is just a side effect of chemo. Shooter was very lethargic a week out from chemo due to anemia and infection. B12 and antibiotics have really helped except for less stamina because of the anemia.

Will be waiting for an update.

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So the blood work is back - no serious issues with the platelet count. The low number is apparently due to "clumping". Glad that any issue appears to be a side effect of the chemo and not a separate issue. The specialist and I traded voice mails, so I didn't get to ask my questions, but she did say we should be a go for her 4th treatment next week.

Lili is better, but not 100%, or even 80%. I don't think it is nausea anymore as she is eating just fine. She is not on any pain meds though I have been wondering if she should be. She not moving around as much as she was, and she seems weak. Things that came easily before chemo, in the 6 weeks after amputation (we had a longer than usual delay there) are now much more challenging. She needs help that she hadn't needed with stairs or hopping on the couch (probably not a bad idea to be helping her anyway, to minimize stress on her joints, but I can't help but notice the difference).

I have downloaded and read the book about Life On Three Legs, and there are definitely strengthening exercises we should be doing, though it is hard to get started when she feels just crappy. I think she would benefit from a rehab specialist and I have located one in our area. I have been attempting to give her some at-home massages, which she seems to enjoy. She is tense and knotty in her back and shoulders (she is a rear amp), which may contribute to her unwillingness to move around. We have also cut way back on food, as she is packing on some weight. She was approx 54 lbs pre-amp, and trim. She was about 48 lbs immediately post amp, but I was surprised that she has creeped back up to 51 lbs as of last week. If moving around is already tough, extra weight can't help, so we are working to get that off.

I do question whether we want to keep going with the chemo given the toll it has taken on her. But it is so hard to know if it is the chemo that is causing the problems, or other issues. Of course, there's that little voice saying that the ugly cancer is causing her deterioration, not just the chemo, and then I question whether we would want to put her through more chemo when it has been tough for her. Sigh.

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29 June 2013 - 9:45 am
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Dang! Bless your heart. I KNOW it's so hard to see that wonderful' adorable pup of yours of feel well.

Other are sooooooo many things that could be going on that are NOT serious but causing her to feel unwell.

Okay, her blood work isn't showing any other issues. Check!

Eating and drinking goo. Check!

Seems unlikely that this would be cancer related as everything is "clear" in that regard. Check!

It really does sound like it could indeed be something pulled or pinched or strained and that can certainly cause her to not want to move around and to appear weak

I also wonder with her being on a "diet" if maybe some of the weakness could maybe be a lack of something. nutritional? Maybe put her back on whatever her regular foodswere for about a weeks and see if tthat helps.

Has the vet ruled out any other type of infection?

I would definitely ask about a B 12 cocktail injection too.

And, if t is some inflammation from muscle strain, maybe try a pain pill for two or three days and see if that works-----if your vet says okay..

It won't hurt to delay the chemo a bit.....there have been plenty of dogs with various issues who've had to delay treatments one through four. Yeah, rehabe may be to rough for her right. ow. She's still recovering and many wait til after chemo.

Wish I had a solution for you. I'm glad that overall though she's feeling good and loving being spoiled and lifted up!! Heck yeah, spoiling is healing too!!

Now, something must for you!! YEP! It's group hug time! Out of the chair......come on, we're watching......middle of the Fromm.....yeah, that's perfect! Now, all the tripawd power is hugging you right now and knfsing you with love, calm and strength!! HEY! Whoever is tickling stop! Oh, that was Lil kissing you with sugar kisses:-) :-)

Surrou ding yo with love!

Sally and Happy Hannah

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Thanks, Sally. That's a good point about the nutrition that I hadn't considered. We haven't made any significant changes to her diet through this whole ordeal. First, she has always been a great eater and never needed extra enticements, even right after the amp. Second, she has eaten the same grain free kibble her whole life (due to her brother's food allergies) - Natural Balance Duck and Potato. I have done some research about potential changes to her diet, something lower carb. But given our work schedules (and her finicky brother), we will probably stick with kibble of some sort. Both vets have said we should hold off making significant changes to her diet until the chemo is behind us. Since her current food is "good enough" for now, I hadn't given it a great deal of thought quite yet.

She gets a cup, twice a day. When I say we have cut back, we have gone from a heaping cup to a true, measured cup. In addition to that, she gets the only new things we have added, a k9 immunity plus chew and a fish oil chew. Maybe it is time to start throwing some extras on her food. Anchovies? Yogurt? I am willing to try anything. I will read up a bit to find possibilities. Any suggestions at welcome!

And I think you are right that a physical injury of some sort remains a strong possibility. It was about 3 weeks ago that we overdid it on a walk. And yes, that is probably where the subtle changes started. And then she had a chemo treatment later that week. Poor girl is probably just plum wore out and still ouchy. She still has a gleam in her eye and a thumpy tail, but is just not herself physically. Fingers crossed that this passes with time and rest. And may e some pain meds.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. It is always great to hear new perspectives and ideas, as well as reminders to focus on the positives!

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I agree with Sally; I'm guessing that the reason why she's feeling down isn't because the cancer is behaving badly but just the general side effects are taking a toll. Listen to your gut instinct. If you don't like what you are seeing, you don't have to keep going. Should you decide to stop keep in mind that with 3 treatments behind her she already has an advantage in fighting the cancer.

As for diet changes: I also agree with your vets. Don't make any changes until you know for sure you're done with chemo. When you're ready, make slow, minor adjustments. Check our Tripawds Nutrition blog , members have shared lots of great anti-cancer diet tips there.

I hope you both have a relaxing weekend and Lily gets stronger. We are all thinking of you so keep us posted.

p.s. Thanks for downloading our ebook, I'm glad you found some useful ideas. As we say in the book, don't beat yourself for not doing as much as you think you should be doing; even small changes do add up.

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Just a quick update on Lili. She is headed back to the vet today for another thorough check up. The nausea seems to be gone, but the poor girl just isn't getting around like she was. Laying down and getting up are both very tough. Stairs are next to impossible. Hard to believe she was running around just fine about 2 weeks ago. She is significantly worse over the past 2 or 3 days.

Fingers crossed for a pulled, pinched, strained anything. She will have x-rays and ultrasounds to see if we can figure out what's going on. Please send good thoughts our way!

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All paws are crossed----and that's a lot of tripawd power paws!

I know you're worried but I'm really glad the vet's gonna give her a good checkup.

Maybe a steroid dose can perk things up a bit Too! Did the vet say anything about checking her over really well for strains, pulsed muscles, etc. That just seems like it could be such a strong possibility.

Come on Lil girl, let's get you back feeling better NOW!! Got tat? Yes! Good girl!

Surrounding yo with positive energy and a whole lot of love and a couple thousand hugs:-) :-)

We'll be here waiting for an update when you can.

(((((((((HUGS)))))))))

Sally and Happy Hannah

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Lily, I'm so sad to hear that. We are thinking of you and your pack and sending all the healing power we can gather. Please get well soon! We want to hear what the vet says so come back and let us know.

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Bad news.  X-rays showed mets in the spine and pelvis.  We're picking Lili up shortly to bring her home.  Devastated.  

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