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rockdoggy
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26 August 2010 - 10:08 am
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Hi, My bestie: Rocky is a lab/pit mix. He was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in January of this year, had his leg amputated & had one round of chemo. He has been as healthy & happy as can be after his amputation & chemo..... up until yesterday. He seemed a little lethargic, tired, sad & refused to eat. I added cooked chicken breast to his food to see if it would get him to eat & he did. But this morning he woke up vommiting, looking sicker & with diarrhea.

I'm not sure if this is what I should expect as his final days...if he's in pain? I'm not sure what to think. The vet gave him 4 months to live after his amputation, but it has been a great 8 months since then.

 I am at peace with it if its his time to go because we did our best to make him as comfortable as possible & tried to give him a 2nd chance at life. For the most part, Rocky has had a long, fun, loving 9 1/2 years of life.

I just don't want him to go slowly & in pain. I am undecided whether to take him to the vet or if he should spend his final days at home comfortably.

Can anyone share their pets/bestie's last days? What he/she experienced.

Any info is much appreciated. Thanks....Linda

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26 August 2010 - 2:22 pm
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rockdoggy said:

Can anyone share their pets/bestie's last days?

We shared our experiences during Jerry's final days and hundreds have commented on how much it helped them face the same difficult decisions with their dogs.

The symptoms you describe seems to have come on a bit sudden. Please do see a vet and let us know how it goes, it may be unrelated to his cancer. Thanks for joining and best wishes for you and Rocky.

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26 August 2010 - 3:52 pm
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rockdoggy said:

 I am at peace with it if its his time to go because we did our best to make him as comfortable as possible & tried to give him a 2nd chance at life. For the most part, Rocky has had a long, fun, loving 9 1/2 years of life.


Just wanted to offer my support Linda.  This statement says it all.  You've done a fine job for Rocky and are at peace with whatever comes next.  That is all any of us can hope for.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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26 August 2010 - 4:25 pm
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This past spring, my Boomie seemed to change overnight.  All of a sudden he was lethargic and refusing his food.  I also thought it was the end.  But a trip to the vet revealed he had some kind of infection, and a round of antibiotics and some tummy medicine fixed him right up.   It's worth it to find out what's ailing Rocky.  Hope he's feeling better soon!

Cindy and Boomie

Boomie's leg was amputated due to osteosarcoma on May 15, 2008.  He enjoyed over two and a half years of life after that, one day at a time.  He died on Feb. 21, 2011.

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26 August 2010 - 4:30 pm
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Hi Linda,

  I have been there, in a similar place you now find yourself at with your precious Rocky.  When I was a pre-teen our family dog (one I grew up with all my life) had been diagnosed with lymphoma and my mom decided to go through chemo since she was a good candidate. I went with my mom to a few of the chemo sessions and after a few months the vet said she was in remission. The chemo treatments stopped and Bonnie (her name) did well for another few months. However after almost a year since her diagnosis, she started having similar symptoms; lethargic, low appetite, vomiting etc… you could see it in her eyes that something was very wrong.

My mom took her back to get examined and they found that the lymphoma had spread to her lungs. So heartbreaking since her recovery seemed so promising for almost a year. At this point we knew that it was time. I only remember my mom coming home with her collar and very teary eyed because my mom was Bonnie's favorite human. It was the first time our family had encountered an animal with cancer and the first time anyone had passed away in my family at my young age.

Whatever you decide to do, we are all here for you.

-Chloe's mom

Chloe became a rear amp tripawd on 7-29-10. Another tumor was removed on front leg 2-20-14. Found 3rd tumor on neck 2-2015, but she's still kicking cancer's butt at age 14. Chloe's blog

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26 August 2010 - 5:39 pm
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From my point of view, if you are needing to ask if its time...it may not be yet.  You will know.  People say that all the time, but it's so true.  Jack was slowing down over the course of a month after the cancer had spread to his liver.  He had fluid in his abdomen, but his appetite was large, he drank a lot, he was excited about things.  His last day he wouldn't eat dinner.  We took him outside before bed and he did a huge face-plant and scraped his chin on the pavement.  After he pottied, he just sat down and looked at me, and I knew it was time.  You know Rocky better than anyone, if you think he is still enjoying life, you can let him keep on doing that - from our experience, the time to let them rest and sleep becomes blatently obvious.  Sending virtual and invisible hugs!

 

<3 Laura and Invisible Jackers

rockdoggy
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26 August 2010 - 8:12 pm
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Thank you everyone for your replies. Hearing everyones stories does help a lot! I took him to the vet today...he was given an injection for pain & nausea. The vet said he noticed that he twitched & seemed to be in pain when he touched his back. The cancer may have spread to his back but we wont know until he gets xrays. For now, he'll be on pain & nausea meds until next week. We're hoping to see improvement, but if not we know he'll be pain free for the time being.

Thanks again, it is very much appreciated. Will keep you posted if anything improves, worsens or any new info from the vet next week.

sad

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26 August 2010 - 8:25 pm
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Thanks for the update. We've got all our paws crossed here for ya!

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26 August 2010 - 10:36 pm
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I have to agree with Laura, you will just know when it's time.  I know everyone tells you that, but it's so true.  We laid our Zeke to rest 2 weeks ago and the last few days, he went downhill fast, but the cancer had spread to his lungs.  He wanted nothing to do with food (even steak, hamburgers, chicken).....nothing.  He barely got up the last 2 days and he just had that look in his eyes, like he was tired.  My husband and I knew it was time. 

Good luck with Rocky, I really hope it's just a bug and he gets to feeling better very soon!!!  Keep us posted!

Dhiannon (Zeke's Mom) & Zeke, a 7 year old male Bullmastiff, front left leg amputated on 7-12-2010 due to a joint tumor.  Zeke earned his wings on 8-13-2010, we will miss our big boy forever!  We love you Zeke!!

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26 August 2010 - 11:41 pm
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And I agree with Laura & Dhiannon.  When Ruthie finally lost her happiness and I knew there was nothing I could do about it, that she was miserable, I had not a single doubt that it was time to let her go.

I hope you get good news!

Golden Girls
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27 August 2010 - 7:10 am
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Yes, you will know in your gut when it is time. Our Skyler refused to eat her last few days, she even rejected a banana! She went downhill so fast, and knew that she wasn't having fun anymore. Being with her at the end was the best way to show her how much we loved her. We hope your pup is feeling better soon. Please do keep us posted!

Hugs and crossed-paws!

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27 August 2010 - 9:36 am
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Linda, we're so glad you went to have it checked out. We hope he's feeling better today and the meds keep working.

I just wanted to add that If this is a sign that the cancer has progressed (we sure hope not), it helps to know in your mind, where both Rocky and you are willing to draw the line when it comes to treatments and meds. Have a good talk with Rocky, look into his eyes, and determine when you will both know, when to say "when." Doing this ahead of time can help spare a lot of emotional distress when things get rough.

Hugs to you both, keep us posted.

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krun15
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27 August 2010 - 9:55 am
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Hi Linda,

I hope at this point that Rocky is feeling better.  I agree with everyone above on knowing when the time comes.  My pug Maggie was a long time cancer survivor (mast cell cancer).  Last February things sort of fell apart when she was diagnosed with several new problems in quick succession.  At the beginning of March she stopped eating, then was sick for several days.  She lost 2 pounds (she was little, starting at 17 lbs and eventually was under 15 lbs).  At the time it seemed likely that I would lose her, but in retrospect it was not a really strong feeling.  She rallied, started eating, and had 3 more months of quality time.  When pain became an issue in June I knew it was time- absolutely no doubt.

One thing that really helped me be sure about my decision was defining what quality was for Maggie.  With her second cancer, and her inablility to take or tolerate pain meds, I knew the end would come when the pain broke through.

I hope Rocky has more time with you, but what ever happens you know that you have done your best and given Rocky a dogs life.  And there is nothing better than that.

 

Karen

 

p.s.- the circumstances are not really applicable- but here is the post I wrote after Mag stabilized last March- it just shows that even when things look really bad there is still a chance for more time.

Golden Girls
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27 August 2010 - 3:21 pm
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I came across this article the day after Jane & I had decided that Skyler was finished fighting. It really made it clear to us that we had made the right decision. At this time, Skyler was still in the hospital being cared for by doctors.

 

Defining "Quality of Life"
        by Moira Anderson Allen, M.Ed.

Whenever one considers the painful choice of euthanasia, one is always advised to take the pet's "quality of life" into account. But what is "quality of life"? How can you determine whether a pet is still experiencing a good quality of life -- or whether its level of suffering is no longer acceptable? That decision is individual to every pet, and every owner. Following, however, are some factors to consider when attempting to assess a pet's quality of life:

Mobility:

An older pet often loses mobility. A dog may no longer be able to climb stairs or hop into a car; a cat may lose the ability to jump onto a bed or chair. At this stage, however, your pet may still be healthy and happy, and you can easily make accommodations for its reduced ability.

If, however, your pet can barely move, that's another matter. Can your pet get to its feet without assistance? Can it sit or lie down without collapsing? Can it walk? Can it handle basic functions, such as squatting on a litterbox? Does it whimper or growl if you attempt to move it? I've seen dogs so crippled with hip dysplasia that they literally had to drag their immobilized hindquarters across the floor; this hardly represents the "quality of life" I want for my pets.

Appetite/Eating Ability:

Is your pet able to eat? Can it consume enough food (or digest that food) to remain properly nourished? Does it regurgitate immediately after eating? Is it unable to chew, or does it have difficulty swallowing? Does it enjoy eating, or do you have to coax every bite past its lips? A pet that is unable to eat or gain sufficient nourishment from its food is on a slow road to starvation.

Breathing:

A number of illnesses, including cancer, can affect the lungs. When a condition causes the lungs to fill with fluid or foreign matter (such as cancer cells), a pet quickly loses its ability to breathe easily or comfortably. You'll notice that your pet may seem to be panting, or that it is laboring to breathe; often, you'll see its stomach or flanks "pumping" as it can no longer breathe with just the chest muscles. It may also experience wheezing attacks. If such symptoms occur, ask for a chest x-ray to determine the condition of the lungs. If the problem is due to an allergy, infection, or asthma, medication may help; if it is due to fluids that are the result of cancer or a heart condition, however, little can be done.

Discomfort:

It can be difficult to determine whether a pet is in pain, as animals instinctively mask discomfort as much as possible. You can pick up clues, however, by watching its posture and expression. Does your pet's face appear furrowed or "worried", rather than relaxed and happy? Does it sit hunched or "hunkered" and tense, rather than relaxing and lying down? Lack of mobility can also be a sign of pain.

Another indication of pain is "denning." An animal in pain will seek a safe place where it won't be disturbed by other animals. If your pet has forsaken its usual territories or sleeping places for the back of the closet or a spot under the bed, this may be a sign that it is pain or distress and feels vulnerable.

A more obvious indication of pain is a pet's reaction to touch. If your pet responds to touch by flinching away, hissing, snarling, or even snapping, this is a clear indication of pain. Sometimes this can indicate a localized pain; if the pet doesn't want to be touched at all, however, it may indicate a broader discomfort.

Incontinence:

Many pet owners feel terribly guilty over the natural annoyance they feel when a pet becomes incontinent. They feel they should be more loving, more patient. Incontinence, however, can also be stressful for the pet. As a basic survival mechanism, animals learn not to "mess where they sleep" (for the smell would draw attention to the location of one's den). When an animal can no longer control when or where it urinates or defecates, you can be sure it is not happy with the situation.

Mental Capacity:

Older pets occasionally develop signs of diminished mental capacity. They may seem to "forget" things, such as where a toy is located or what a command means. Such a pet may become confused by its surroundings, and this confusion can develop into fear. (In some cases, this "confusion" may be the result of hearing or vision loss, to which both you AND your pet can often adapt.)

Happiness:

Determining whether your pet is "enjoying" life is certainly a subjective decision. However, if you have been a keen observer of your pet's behavior and attitude during its lifetime, you are likely to be able to determine when it no longer seems "happy." You'll know when it no longer seems to take any pleasure from its food, its toys, its surroundings -- and most of all, from contact with you and the rest of its family. Most pets are tremendously easy to please; when it no longer becomes possibly to raise a purr or a tail-wag, you can be fairly certain that your pet is receiving little joy from life.

Response to Treatment:

When a pet becomes ill, our natural response is to provide whatever treatment we can. This may mean tests, medications, even surgery. But drugs have side effects, repeated trips to the vet cause emotional distress, and more invasive treatments take a physical toll. Eventually, we may conclude that our efforts to treat a pet's illness are more stressful to the pet than the condition itself -- and that our efforts to save a pet's life are actually diminishing, rather than enhancing, the quality of that life.

Making a Decision:

Assessing a pet's quality of life is an ongoing process, not a one-time decision. Initially, we're likely to attempt to compensate for the problems we see. Pain medication may relieve a pet's discomfort and improve its mobility. A change in diet may improve a pet's appetite or provide better nutrition. We may resolve that we're willing to clean up after a pet and carry it wherever it needs to go, for as long as necessary. But eventually such measures will cease to be effective. The process of assessing "quality of life" is really a question of determining (and deciding) when that point has been reached -- and what you intend to do next.

It is often tempting, at this point, to postpone a decision still longer by deciding to "let nature take its course." Before choosing that course of action (or inaction), however, it's important to understand that, as a pet owner, you have been thwarting the "course of nature" from the beginning. By ensuring that your pet has food and shelter and is protected from predators, you have already guaranteed that nature will not take its course. By providing medical treatment, you have prolonged the life of your pet far beyond what it could have expected if left to "nature." In nature, an animal that becomes too ill to obtain food or protect itself will perish quickly, though not necessarily comfortably.

Nor does nature necessarily offer an "easy" death even if you choose to let it "take its course" in the comfort of your home. An animal that cannot breathe easily, cannot eat or digest food properly, cannot control its bodily functions, and can scarcely move or enjoy human contact because of pain, is hardly dying "comfortably."

This is really what the "quality of life" issue is all about. By usurping nature's role throughout the life of our pets, we must sometimes also accept its role in determining (and bringing about) the death of a pet. To accept this, we may also have to accept that, in some cases, the quality of life we're really trying to protect is our own: That we're allowing our pet to suffer out of a desire to avoid the anguish we know that we will experience when it dies. And that, ultimately, is the most unselfish act of love we can offer: To end a pet's suffering, we must choose to accept our own.

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 An animal that cannot breathe easily, cannot eat or digest food properly, cannot control its bodily functions, and can scarcely move or enjoy human contact because of pain, is hardly dying "comfortably."

This is really what the "quality of life" issue is all about...we must sometimes also accept its role in determining (and bringing about) the death of a pet. 

This is something that EVERY pet owner should read! I know that one of our other dogs Poggie (pronounced Podgie, she came named) slipped a disk in her back and became paralyzed from the waist down. Apparently they found that she had a birth defect (after the fact) that predisposed her to this more so than being a daschund already did.  It was really hard because we had only had her for 4 years (she was 5), but after it happened she couldn't move well (she drug her legs) and she couldn't go to the bathroom... In our case we knew putting her down was the best thing for her since there was nothing we could do even though it pained us to see her go so soon...

Thank you for sharing.

-Chloe's mom

Chloe became a rear amp tripawd on 7-29-10. Another tumor was removed on front leg 2-20-14. Found 3rd tumor on neck 2-2015, but she's still kicking cancer's butt at age 14. Chloe's blog

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