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Greyhound with OS facing amputation
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23 August 2011 - 7:32 pm
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They can be reasonably certain looking at xrays if it is osteosarcoma. They were 'almost' certain when Trouble had her xrays done. She had the classic 'starburst' on film. We chose not to do a biopsy and put her through the pain, and us the wait of sending a biopsy for pathology results. We were given a second chance to biopsy when then put her under for the surgery. We again declined. I would not have made a different choice if I had it to do over again. Of course they did a full pathology on the leg when it was removed.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
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25 August 2011 - 4:53 am
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The needle aspiration was inconclusive .. the full bone biopsy has been rushed through and will be ready tomorrow.  The senior vet has asked that we admit Rowan first thing in the morning and then he will be operated on immediately they receive a positive result.  The vet does think that the results will be positive, and he is also talking about taking off Ro's shoulder joint to collect the lymph glands in his armpit. 

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25 August 2011 - 7:18 am
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It seems that most dogs do lose the scapula as well, Polly. My dog had a different cancer, but they took the lymph node and scapula. The look took some getting used to for me (he looks so small from that side) but it makes a great place for massages. Just ask Dakota.

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

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25 August 2011 - 7:30 am
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Oh, thanks for that … Ro is such a well built dog, I am always amazed by how many young men approach us and start complimenting him on being "ripped" or "buff" or somesuch which I understand are bodybuilding terms.  (Englishwoman of a certain vintage here!) His shoulders are very well developed and I should think carry a lot of weight, so I can see the sense, even without taking into account the nodes there.  I have asked my son, who is coming to be with us this weekend, to bring any old T shirts he can spare.  I am also thinking of finding Ro's old 48" crate to make him a safe place to be, I'll have to look at its side opening.  I have ordered an orthopedic quality memory foam bed for him too.  If by some miracle it's not OS, it's certainly painful and he needs a good quality bed.  I shall need to read up on massage.

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25 August 2011 - 7:39 am
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Oh I'm sorry about the inconclusiveness. Bone biopsies hurt!

Ro will still be "ripped," only now his remaining front leg will be! My scapula was taken too, and the cancer wasn't in my lymph nodes. I hope Ro has the same good fortune!

Our Downloads Blog has this dog massage download series, let us know if you try it! We also have some some great free massage tips here in our News Blog.

Good luck. Keep us posted!

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26 August 2011 - 1:55 am
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Polly as i said on gap thinking of you today hope all goes well

Dizzy diagnosed with osteosarcoma 24 may 2011 amputated same day doing fine hopping around on three legs giving the neighbourhood cats what for

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27 August 2011 - 5:47 am
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Hi Guys.  Well, more uncertainty and doubt and not knowing what to do for the best. 

On Thursday we were asked to bring Ro in first thing on Friday morning so that he'd be on the spot when the results came through and they could operate straight away.  So we took him in and then spent the day on tenterhooks, waiting for the call which we were expecting around Noon.  At 4pm they rang to say that the full bone biopsy was - again - inconclusive and nobody is able/prepared to say that what they see on the x ray films is anything more than suspicious.  However, what was made absolutely clear is that neither the needle aspiration nor the full biopsy show "any sign of anything at all aggressive".  The vet suggested they perform another bone biopsy but I had talked with the very experienced lady who runs the rescue we had Ro from and she said that another, deeper, biopsy, might render his joint very fragile.  The moment I voiced any doubt, the vet backtracked and said that he was happy to refer us on to the specialist greyhound oncologist which is only about 14 miles away.  And TBH, Ro seemed in a LOT more discomfort after Tuesday's biopsy, and I was very reluctant to add to that before a long weekend. 

So, we brought him home.  He was shaved in a collection of odd spots and had had a shunt in, ready for sugery I suppose.  He galloped up the path to the cottage and demolished a huge dinner.  We have an appointment for 10 am on Tuesday (Monday's a public holiday here) and I'm to take him in starved, in case they want to X ray or do any other  procedures.  All the initial X rays have been sent over already. 

The joint does seem to be settling, it's not as swollen as it was, and in any case, it was the biopsy that seems to have caused most pain and swelling.  I have metacam and tramadol for him.  He's walking around the garden and pinching the whippet's soft toys.  My son and daughter in law came down from London last night and he was whirling in joy when they arrived.  What's happening?  My head is spinning.  way-confused Trying not to be over optimistic, but the vet did mention that it might be another cause .....

BTW: Cultural differences.  It's taken me a while to understand what "going potty" means to US posters ... very different over here, LOL!wink

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27 August 2011 - 8:06 am
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Oh geez, those inconclusive results are so crazy, especially after taking a bone biopsy, which is supposed to nearly always give a firm diagnosis. I'm not surprised that he's in more pain, that type of biopsy is really painful. Imagine taking a core sample of your bone. Ouch! But at least the docs are being super cautious, that's good. I would get to the specialist for sure, good move. The fact that your current vet was willing to refer you is the sign of an excellent vet.

Better to play it safe for now. Another couple of days could mean the difference between getting to keep his leg or not. We hope things go well next week.

So, what DOES going potty mean in the UK? And I'm curious about "tenterhooks"? Huh?

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27 August 2011 - 8:46 am
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Happy to elucidate ...

 

Tenterhooks were the hooks or bent nails that were used in the woollen industry back in medieval times (I think - pre Industrial Revolution, anyway) to hold newly woven cloth, which was still often full of muck and oil from the sheep, which was then cleaned and whilst wet stretched on a "tenter", so it dried without shrinking too much.  The term "on tenterhooks" is used to describe being kept in suspense, often when awaiting news or a decision - but usually when you're in state of unpleasant anxiety.

 

Although we use "potty" for the receptical that babies used when being toilet trained (the adult version being a "chamber pot") the phrase "going potty" is a fairly lighthearted expression to describe going a bit loopy, angry/mad ... so someone might say they were going potty having to stay in all day,   having to do something they didn't want to, or found boring or a waste of time.  A kid might say their Mum was "going potty" when they broke curfew.  If I said the dog was "going potty" here, I'd think he was having a mad half hour, rushing around, being playful.  We tend to say "toileting the dog" or "letting him/her out to do his/her business/toilet".     Interesting the way language develops, isn't it?

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31 August 2011 - 2:03 am
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To update ... took Rowan in to the specialist (oncology surgeon) vet yesterday and she spent a good hour examining him then sat down and ran through all the possible causes for the swelling on his leg, with the treatments available and the worse case scenario - in terms of life expectancy - for each.  Very calm and a brilliant communicator, I feel a million times better in that I am sure she will get to the bottom of whatever this is.  The "best" diagnosis would be a benign cyst in the bone, as basically that would just need cleaning out then re-packing with bone graft.  Anyway, she agreed that the most important thing is to find out exactly what's going on and quickly.  So Rowan was sedated and further limb X rays taken plus another 4 bone biopsies. 

 

The surgeon rang last night to say that the X rays do not show anything typical for any condition she knows.  They do not say "OS" to her, not any form of arthritis.  But it doesn't seem to be fast growing or aggressive.  She is sending one sample off to see if it can be cultured as she wonders whether he has some sort of bone infection ... she's starting him on antibiotics just in case.  The biopsies have been taken from different points so hopefully one of them will give us a definitive result.  We are collecting him later this morning, and he'll be fitted with a strong brace to support his wrist.  So the next few days will be watching him get over the sedative and the pain of the biopsies ... again ... and making sure he keeps his weight off the injured wrist as far as possible. 

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31 August 2011 - 6:19 am
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Hello Polly,

I want to say welcome too!  It is interesting how the english language differs so much depending on where you are.  We have at work a guy from England and I have the hardest time understanding him.  I think his accent is wonderful, but it is mostly the phrasing that confuses me.

About Rowan, he sounds very tall!  I believe there is a study that was done about the taller breeds of dogs being more prone to OS.  I think it has something to do with the hormones and growth rate.

I hope very much it is the infection, not OS.  But  whatever it is, he sounds like a lucky boy to have such a caring person by his side.  To me, they are never "just dogs".  They are our family and our dearest friends, so don't worry at all about expressing your hopes and fears here, because we seem to be united in this belief.

Elizabeth and Sammy

Diagnosed with osteosarcoma in the right front leg 8/23/10,

leg fractured 8/27/10,

leg amputated 8/30/10

http://sammyand.....pawds.com/

 

I couldn't begin to say how special Sammy is to us.  Living and laughing with and loving this wonderful boy is priceless.

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12 September 2011 - 6:57 am
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Hello .. I have been absent for a while because we were waiting to hear what the biopsy results were ... it took longer than expected and last Thursday the specialist oncolgist vet called to say that there was no sign of any tumour or infection, BUT that he was still very suspicious, given all the other evidence.  So I've had a few days of cautious optimism, which has felt like a little holiday from worry.  sleepy

 

However, despite Rowan wearing a "Robert Jones" bracing bandage over this last weekend his limp got much worse, so this morning I took him to see the specialist, hoping against hope that there was an infection in the biopsy site, despite his having been on mega strong antibiotics for the last fortnight. 

 

But no infection, just a VERY swollen joint and obvious pain ... he screamed when the vet flexed the joint.  She has told me that although she would love to have hard 100% evidence from the biopsies that it is OS, she is sure in her own mind that it is some form of cancer eating into the bone. 

 

So, after running through our options, I have left Ro with her, and they will amputate the leg and scapula tomorrow.  It will take away the dreadful pain and let him be a happy lad again.  They can test the bone when it's off him, and then decide on what course of treatment he'll need post op.  I feel oddly calm and a little bit dead.  Willow the Whippet is totally confused and wandering around looking for her boy.  I am concentrating on getting things straight for his return, ordering a ruff wear harness etc.  Hopefully he'll be home by Friday, assuming he comes through the op OK.

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12 September 2011 - 8:01 am
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we're sending our best 'ET juju' to you guys, hoping for an uneventful surgery and quick recovery.  ending the pain is primary - rowan will be fine on three legs.  let us know how the surgery goes!

charon & gayle

Life is good, so very, very good!!! Gayle enjoyed each and every moment of each and every wonderful day (naps included).  She left this world December 12, 2011 – off on a new adventure.

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12 September 2011 - 10:19 am
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Polly pm me on gap if you have questions, am thinking of you, hoping he will be happy and pain free very soon

Gillian

Dizzy diagnosed with osteosarcoma 24 may 2011 amputated same day doing fine hopping around on three legs giving the neighbourhood cats what for

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12 September 2011 - 4:39 pm
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Good luck Ro!!! You will surprise everyone with how happy you are when that pain is gone!!! 

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