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Austin
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30 November 2011 - 6:43 am
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The time for the surgery is getting closer, and all of a sudden I am really doubting my decision to do it. I don't know why, because I know it will help to get rid of the tumor, and the lame leg. Tried to speak to vets yesterday again, and basically she said it is very likely to reoccur. I just don't want to see him go through all this-he's been through a lot already. Last night he did something very unusual for him. He jumped up in bed with me(first time in a very long time), and laid right next to me, all stretched out, but against me, and put his head in my hand. He had a LOT of nerve twitching-something i didn't know was going on. He stayed there for a long time, and when he shifted a little, he kept putting his paws on me..I know this sounds dramatic a little bit..but it was sinking in that in 2 weeks he is going to be laying here with a giant scar and not long before it comes back. He has been very lovey dovey...and I guess I am being a big baby in a way but I just don't want to see him go through this. (Although he will have to-I would never 'put him down' without doing everything I can to preserve his quality of life). Sorry to be a whiner and vent-just can't shake the sadness today--I know I will be stronger for Happy, but this is rough. The positive stories help a lot, but just really putting on the brakes today. I have been ordering his paraphrenalia to get ready for the surgery and his recovery..Big new ortho bed, bowls, and a brace for his good foot, which is hyperextended.(concern about that is part of my melt down) 

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30 November 2011 - 8:50 am
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Don't worry about venting- this is a great place to do it!

I guess I was lucky in a sense that we went from diagnosis to surgery in just a few days.  While I didn't really have time to prepare- I didn't have time to think too much about it either.

When you have doubts try to think about what the end goal is- the best life quality for Happy.   The first couple weeks after surgery can be rough (but not always) but after recovery our pups just inspire us with their adaptability.  And most here dealing with cancer go into the amputation knowing that there is a good possibility that the surgery is not curative, but again it is about quality of life for the time you have together.  And there are those who beat the odds and outlive the prognosis.  There is always hope!!

This is not an easy decision to make so don't feel bad about having doubts. Focus on why you decided on surgery in first place.  Look into Happy's eyes and know you are doing the best thing for him.

 

Karen and the pugapalooza

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30 November 2011 - 9:45 am
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Thank you. I know most everyone here has gone through something similar. When I spoke to the vet yesterday s he said this is the type of tumor that has long feelers, it it's pretty hard to get every cell out..(the surgeon did not seem to mention this at all). I guess part of it is I don't feel like I have the full picture, and I am having a lot of anxiety about turning over my baby on surgery day not really feeling good about the interactions I've had with the vets, who are mostly in a hurry..I want to know who is going to do what and if they are going to do their best-that they know this is my baby, not a scientific specimen only. I have contacted the office today and waiting on a call back. Thank you for listening and your words!

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30 November 2011 - 10:21 am
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There are risks with any surgery, so it is natural to worry about it. Also "amputation" seems so harsh to us humans that it is hard to wrap our heads around.

As for coming her and having a melt down - that's what we're here for! Believe me, I've melted down so many times here my user name should be "Polar Ice Cap." wink

Sorry but I forget if you mentioned in another post what type of tumor it is. Sounds like maybe fibrosarcoma from how you describe it? Our Abby has OSA so I'm not as 'versed' in other types of tumors, but I'm sure someone here will have dealt with the same thing you are facing.

Remember that Happy just wants to be with you - he just wants to be "happy" - with both a small h and a capital H. Once he gets through the surgery/recovery, he'll be Happy again.

Hang in there and keep us posted,

Jackie, Abby's mom

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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30 November 2011 - 4:22 pm
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It sounds like Happy is trying to comfort you. He knows you're worried, and he's trying to tell you that everything will be alright.

Rio's doctors wanted to do her surgery the day after our consult with the oncologist, but I was scared and freaked out and couldn't do it. I gave myself two weeks to look at every angle, do tons of research, get to the point where I was comfortable with the decision. The night before her surgery, I bawled so long and hard that I couldn't breathe. Even up to the moment I dropped Rio with the surgeon, I was reserving the right to cancel.

But when it came right down to it, the amputation was the only way I could buy more time. Rio's cancer (although it's one of the least aggressive cancers) has never behaved the way it's "supposed" to. I was told surgery would "cure" it. And after 5 of them, it's still marching forward. With our initial cancer drama, we were told that dogs with aggressive mast cell cancer rarely live for more than a year or two. We're at four and a half.

Even though the information your doctors have given you to help you make the best decisions for Happy, it's not based on him and his experience. It's based on studies and averages and statistics, and for every dog that falls in line with the data, there are many that don't.

Listen to Happy. You know him better than anybody else, and he will give you the right answer for him and for you.

The fear is normal — we've all been there. And we've all done what had to be done to affect the most positive outcome. There are no promises in life, and no certainties that this surgery will permanently fix the problem. But it does considerably increase his odds for survival. And in the meantime, he will show you that he can do anything and everything he could prior to the surgery — except for maybe scratching certain spots. And he will live up to his name doing it!!!

PS: Rio has a hyperextended wrist (has had for many years), too, and it's never slowed her down. Some days it's a little shaky, but if she wants to do something, nothing and nobody is gonna stop her… That was a big concern of mine prior to the surgery as well, but its never really been an issue for her.

the Woo

~ ~ Rio ~ ~
Forever in my heart...

April 2000 – January 20, 2012
Diagnosed with Mast Cell Cancer in June 2007. Left rear leg amputated Feb. 8, 2011.
Mets discovered Aug. 31, 2011. Read more of Rio's story here.

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30 November 2011 - 5:27 pm
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Hello and welcome to Tripawds!!!  This is indeed very difficult!! It's the hardest thing that I have ever been through besides my father's death. When my Great Dane Valentina was first diagnosed back in May I couldn't believe that they were telling me I could either cut off my Dog's leg or put her to sleep soon. I was like "No way am I going to cut off her leg!!!!" The vet told me that she had around 6 months to live and we would keep her comfortable on pain meds until the pain was too great and then we would have to put her to sleep. I wasn't prepared for her to be in so much pain about 6 weeks later that she could hardly walk and the increased pain meds were no longer working. The vet said it was time to put her to sleep in about he next 2 weeks. He already knew that previously I did not want to do amputation. I was first of all just terrified of the amputation itself and seeing her with only three legs and the scar and everything but I was also very worried that she would not be able to walk as a tripawd because she is such a big Dog. She is 150lbs and she has a very wide ribcage, shoulders and a big head too! I just couldn't imagine that she could hold all of that up with only one front leg. But when her pain became so bad that I cried just seeing her struggle to walk just to go potty outside I knew that I had to investigate this amputation thing a little more. So I searched the internet for amputations and Xlarge Dogs and what I found was astounding. I read so many positive stories and saw so many videos of three legged Big Dogs and it completely changed my mind. Along with prayer that is what helped me make my decision to go ahead with the amputation. I was watching the videos of other Great Danes running, playing and even digging holes with one front leg with tears just streaming down my face. After seeing those videos and hearing the stories I just knew that my Valentina could do it!! She was a very strong and determined Dog and I believed in her. And in NO WAY was I ready for to be put to sleep!!! She was otherwise healthy, strong and her mind was just the same. My vet even questioned whether she would be able to get around being so big but at that point all I could do was try the amputation or put her to sleep. So as scary as it was we chose the amputation. Valentina did have some complications and it took her longer than average to heal and it was very hard to go through. But I definitely would not change what I did!! After she got over the complications she was back to her old self and we were closer than ever!! She now does just about everything that she used to do and she is even stronger than before thanks to her new Tripawd muscles lol. She is a little over 5 mos. post op and she is doing great!! All Dogs have different times left after their surgery. Some not nearly enough while others have lived years afterwards. That is one of the difficult things is not knowing the answers to those kind of questions. Like is it worth it to have the surgery if my Dog only lives a few months afterwards. I think the answer to that is definitely Yes!! Dogs do not handle the amputation as hard as humans do and they are happy with whatever time they get with you. And I would be too. Of course I wanted Valentina to live a very long time after the surgery but even if she had only lived a few months afterwards I would have been happy that I got to spend some very precious valuable time with her where I could intensely focus on her. I could just feel in my heart what the right decision was for her at the time. And I think that you will come to a point where you will just know what you have to do. As for the problem where you are not totally comfortable with the vet maybe you should tell them that and tell them that you have more questions and that you need to be reassured. If you are seriously doubting the vet that you have been consulting with you may consider getting a second opinion. Well I hope that you find some peace and comfort in your decision soon so you can rest your mind. I know that you will still be full of worry though. That is what this site is here for. Please come to us with any problems or worries and we will try to help the best that we can. Good luck and I will be praying for you and Happy!!  Sorry this is such a long post lol.  big-grin

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30 November 2011 - 10:42 pm
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I hope this is of some help, but I had the same doubts and really thought I wasn't going to do it. One thing that helped me was the understanding that the cancer was causing my dog pain.  That enabled me to focus on the surgery as removing the pain.  (realizing that odds are good that the cancer will eventually come back somewhere else).  So my mindset became that of buying more pain-free quality time for Tucker. That helped me move beyond mourning the loss of the leg — yes there were still tears to come with the visible reality.  But now it is so clear that the pain is gone for Tucker, and quality of life remains.  We are also doing chemo to try to stave off the cancer, if possible.  But it has been less than a month, and the pain is definitely gone, and while the first 2 weeks were tough, he was depressed from the medication, he is now (week 4) back to smiling, chasing balls and while not yet 100% of his old self yet, he is enjoying life again and we are cherishing every moment.   Now when we see dogs with all 4 legs someone in our family will comment "oh look that dog has an extra leg".   Also, Tucker has some arthritis in his legs, so we have continued to give some muscle relaxers which have helped relieve some soreness as his legs and core build up strength to support and balance his new posture. You mentioned a hyperextension issue with Happy, so perhaps this will be of help to plan for during the healing/recovery.

Tucker is a 9 yr young Golden retriever (Goldrush bloodline).  Osteosarcoma in front L shoulder 11/2/11; front left amputation 11/8/11; chemo – Carboplatin starting 11/21/11. Mast cell tumor chest/neck 2004.

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1 December 2011 - 10:10 am
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My husband and I were very fearful of the amputation. So much so, that we weren't going to even do it. We waited months and then the realization hit that we had two crappy options and we had to pick one. Amputation or "put him down". When it was finally presented to me that way I realized we wanted to everything we could to save him....I'm telling you this because we went from very stongly believing in not amputating to now having a 6 week post op tripawd. My feelings now are "what the heck was I so worried about?" My Levi is sooo much happier and pain free. The first 2-3 weeks weren't fun but it goes by fast! And then your life can return to normal! Good Luck

Levi was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma 7-7-11
Ampuversary 10-14-11
Lung Mets Discovered 1-4-12. Chemo seemed to not be working so we switched to Artemisinin and other supplements. In May, Levi developed a sinus infection and started having seizures. The cancer had moved to his brain. We let him go 6-26-12.

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1 December 2011 - 1:01 pm
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Everything everyone said above is right.  I spent about a month considering radiation - even driving from NYC to Boulder with him to avoid the amputation.  I am NOT a Pollyanna person, my husband and I have lost 3 out of 4 parents at a fairly young age, and I was completely freaked out.  (See my posts here for evidence). 

What I can tell you is that all the folks who say a)  you are getting rid of pain; and b) your baby will be much happier afterwards are completely correct based on our experience.  Ajax just wondered what all the fuss was about!  It is going to be so much less bad than you think it is.  If you haven't checked out our posts, search "Ajax" for details on his recovery period. 

Even the scar wasn't as scary as I thought it would be.  I think a lot of us think of the missing part - the loss of leg, the un-pristine incision area.  My husband even asked the surgeon to "weigh the leg" - because he was worrying about having a baseline for keeping Ajax at a healthy weight during post-op when he couldn't run around as much.  The surgeon looked at him very gently and said "I think we'll just put Ajax on the scale when you come to pick him up."  My husband then realized how grim and gory he was and we all had a laugh.  The point is:  what will come home is not a missing leg or a scar, what will come home is your baby who will be healthier and in 3 weeks happier than before.  I felt literally sick the day of surgery but I really think I put myself through a lot of panic by focusing on the scary stuff.  You're doing the right thing to make the home tripawd friendly; prepare for some loopy times while still on meds and a tough 2 weeks, but I really think it is going to be so much better than you imagine.  Good luck!

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1 December 2011 - 2:10 pm
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I had a new tripawd experience the other night that might be relevant.

We were at the local park with Paddie (my quad) and I spotted a yellow tripawd hopping into the park - it was dark. My neighbours (who were Tazzie fans) and I went over to meet her. It turns out this yellow lab had four legs but was hopping on only three. The other paw was pretty much just dragging along on the ground. It was obviously broken.

This man's vet (and this man was a human oncologist, probably around retirement age) had told the man that the dog, who has OSA, would not have any more time if he did the amputation than if he did not. That was two months ago. They dealt with the pain by using a fentanyl patch, so he kept claiming the dog was not in pain. In fact, they took her off the patch because she wasn't in pain.

I am a bit befuddled - the poor thing's paw was dragging along on the ground. It did not take a doctor to know it was broken. Maybe she will only have these two months, but maybe she will have two years. Who knows. The x-rays still seem to be clean.

When we left, he did say he was going to reconsider. I think the idea of not knowing how long she may or may not have had some influence. I still don't know if he saw the kind of pain that I for one think the dog was in. Maybe her body is just numb to the pain at this point - who knows. The dog obviously can get around on three legs, because she is already doing that.

He also said that he would not do chemo because it doesn't work for humans. A bit of an odd statement.

If you don't amputate, her leg will probably fracture at some point and possibly not too far in the future. At that time, what do you want to do? Let her limp with the fracture or put her down? That is how the vet presented it to me. Of course, using bone strengthening drugs and/or palliative radiation might be alternatives to amputation and they aren't bad alternatives. People with dogs having two legs with OSA are more likely to use those approaches since they don't have the option of amputating.

(Kazy said "weigh the leg" - hehe funny)

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1 December 2011 - 4:07 pm
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Tazzie - just to be clear - it was my Adams Family husband who said "weigh the leg"!

I seriously think the surgeon did not know whether to be horrified or laugh

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2 December 2011 - 8:39 pm
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AH! I just saw all of you guy's answers! I just got Happy's new bed from Fed-Ex, and he likes it already! I spoke to the vet, and I feel MUCH better, although he did describe a lengthier radiation approach and an uphill battle, but still, it made me feel better to ask questions and for him to fill me in more. I think I am good with that now, and I feel like Happy has great vets. He is having his surgery and radiation at Texas A&M, which is a very good vet school and hospital. I can really appreciate how y'all re-framed the outcome of the amputation. I am now less focused on that(however, dreading the day). I'm slightly more concerned over the radiation and proximity to the spine the tumor is, but on the other hand, there is nothing I can do about it. Like many of you have said, we only have right now, and what's important is him being pain free and Happy, regardless of amount of time left. That goes for all of us, too! 🙂 Today Happy begged me to go for a longer walk, even after we went to physical therapy. I ordered two different ankle supports, in case he needs one, a book about T-Touch therapy, and the three legs and a spare book. I have lots to do before two weeks! I am also planning to make my home a full of holiday cheer for us to relax and maybe even have some visitors.(is that fine?) I will paint, play music, light the christmas tree, bake, and stay with my boy this season. 

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Rio also had radiation. Her side effects included hair loss within the targeted boundaries and a slight "sun" burn (with the peeling one would expect from a burn). She didn't have any additional symptoms. I put silver nitrate cream on it several times a day, and made her customized shirts so that she couldn't lick the site. It healed up fine, but her hair has never grown back. Her onco said that was pretty unusual, though. I was worried about the proximity to her heart and lungs, but it didn't seem to be an issue at the time (now, I'm not certain that it isn't at least somewhat responsible for her chronic cough four years later).

the Woo

~ ~ Rio ~ ~
Forever in my heart...

April 2000 – January 20, 2012
Diagnosed with Mast Cell Cancer in June 2007. Left rear leg amputated Feb. 8, 2011.
Mets discovered Aug. 31, 2011. Read more of Rio's story here.

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2 December 2011 - 9:49 pm
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happy2003 said:

I am also planning to make my home a full of holiday cheer for us to relax and maybe even have some visitors.(is that fine?)

We invited some of Tucker's favorite people to come visit within the 2 weeks following his surgery (the toughest part of the recovery while he was still quite somber from the painkillers), and it really seemed to lift his spirits, and ours. The more love and support the better during the healing process, right?   So glad you gave an update.  It sounds like positive progress.

Tucker is a 9 yr young Golden retriever (Goldrush bloodline).  Osteosarcoma in front L shoulder 11/2/11; front left amputation 11/8/11; chemo – Carboplatin starting 11/21/11. Mast cell tumor chest/neck 2004.

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Oh my gosh! Your spirits sound wonderful, it's so good to hear that you've reached some answers that make you feel comfortable and confident. Of course it's fine to have visitors! Yay!

And to have the Aggies lookin' after him? You are in great paws there! Where in Texas are y'all? We are in Gonzales for a couple of weeks. Are you anywhere nearby?

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