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New bone cancer diagnosis. Amputation a possibility
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YAY FOR NO LUNG METS! 

I bet once you meet with the onco you will feel even better, it's great to come up with a plan!  Let us know what questions you have, and again, feel free to swing by the chat room !!

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo

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Just ditto to everything everyone else said!!!And YAY:-) YAY:-) YAY:-) for good health report!!

Love Dakota' resp NSE for your husband. You of course wouldn't consider euthanizing him!!! (Or would you??? tee hee:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) just kidding)!

I think I mentioned earlier, I know longer discuss Happy Hannah's situation with any "uniformed outsiders". And just respond that she's responding well to her treatment plan and leave it at that!! This site is where we belong.

I know this is hard and I'm not saying I'm able to do it...try and get time frames out of your mind. When T's your time....it's your time ....and all we can do is focus on the present gift of having your Congo with you right now. It may be two months it may be two years

PLEASE KNOW THIS......WHATEVER TIME YOU HAVE YOU WILL CRAM A LIFETIME OF JOY AND LOVE AND BLISS INTO EVERY SINGLE MOMENT and that is the gift of this situation. After recovery, should you decide to amputste, and recovery can be hard and challenging...and can be easy with no challenge.....but when the spark comes back ad the bond deepens beyond words you will KNOW the decision was right. Dogs don't think in terms of time frame.....they think about how much love can I get today....how. such love can I give today...and how many treats can I have today!!

Think may have already going to amazon site from this page and ordering The Dog Cancer book.....wealth of info!

One more suggestion......chunk it down......one decision at a time.....become as informed as possible.......make decision whichever way you go you are supported here....chemo due vision can be put on back burner for now......nutrition plan can be studied and implemented. on "tom morrow's list"

Okay, all this just two cents worth!,

Surrounding you with the joy of living in the moment just like Co go! Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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16 April 2013 - 12:04 pm
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Wow you are all truly amazing people! Did you all feel emotional about the loss of the limb? The thoughts of my dog is going to be different after. Not the same way I've known him for so long. I seem to be having a hard time with that

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I had no emotional attachment to the loss of the leg. I was way too busy dealing with the here-and-now of helping Dakota learn how to move and be comfortable. I was relieved the leg was gone because it would have killed him. If you look at the leg in that way, it may help you to accept its loss. 

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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16 April 2013 - 12:12 pm
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Yes, the thoughts of your dog are going to be different after, YOURE GOING TO LOVE HIM EVEN MORE!  Seriously, I only want tripawds from now on.............

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo

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16 April 2013 - 12:24 pm
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tkk81 said
Wow you are all truly amazing people! Did you all feel emotional about the loss of the limb? The thoughts of my dog is going to be different after. Not the same way I've known him for so long. I seem to be having a hard time with that

 

I wouldn't say emotional. It was strange--I've always loved Sam's legs (okay, that sounds strange :p). When he was a puppy, he was all legs, like a deer. And then, later, his front legs (along with his face) became one of the few places on his body that were not affected by the S.A. They still retained their fur--and even would grow it back after surgeries. So they've always been a salient feature, I guess.

So, then I thought of this disembodied leg sitting on a tray in the exam/recovery room, and it was like..."Huh." My vet asked if I wanted to see it, and I thought about it for a second, and was like, nah. And then, of course, he told me if I wanted to later, I could, since he was building a Frankenweenie in the back room and it'd be around. (Er, I have a good...and obviously very informal... relationship with my vet--as you can see, we use humour in all things. :D )

For us, it was largely a  cosmetic thing--and since we've had cosmetic issues for years now, it wasn't that big of a deal.

This is my opinion, of course, but I'd do the amp sooner, rather than later (assuming you are leaning toward going that route). OSA is a horridly painful disease. If you know you want to keep your pup around for awhile longer (as in not going to immediately euthanize), then do it as opposed to deliberating about it. It takes none of your options away (palliative care only, chemo, radiation, whatever), and it gets rid of the pain. But again...very much my opinion.

As a side note--DakotaDawg mentioned personalities, etc. And it's funny, I read all these posts about these loving, boisterous, outgoing, people-dogs... and thank god that's not what we base decisions on, or Sam would never have made it :D He may be only half-akita by breed, but by god, he is one to the core personality wise. Aloof, quiet, stubborn, and very "my way. my terms." But again, if someone hadn't lived with him day in and day out for 13 years, they'd never know the real Sam. :-) And in knowing him like we do, it was easy to see he wasn't done living yet...even if he was a crank about it. :p

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16 April 2013 - 12:34 pm
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You know, after we got Jackson's cancer diagnosis and before his amp, I was mad at him.  I was angry at him!  I can't really explain it.  My first family dog, Britta, got bone cancer, but that nearly 20 years ago.  Oh my, how things have changed.  What hadn't changed was my hatred and fear of cancer.  I was convinced Jackson wouldn't get cancer, for the following: He is a mutt.  He benefits from modern medicine, an anal retentive mom, great body weight and activity level, and great food....and he still got cancer?!  I was angry.  At him.  It was weird.  That lasted about 3 days.  Then, we got him from his amp and it all changed.  I was there.  With him.  For him.  I took his leg away, and although he didn't seem to care (which is SO weird!), b/c I pulled that trigger, it was my job to escort him, support him, encourage him, and rebuild his confidence in this New Normal.  I also remember feeling relieved to have made the decision to amp and an even greater sense of relief when the amp was underway and completed.  Why?  Because that was the first step (hop?) toward getting Jackson's life and health back to normal.  We had done SOMETHING.  ANYTHING.  We cut that damn tumor out.  We were moving forward.  Forward on a path is so empowering.  It's something to sink your teeth, hope, and heart into.  Or bury your head in.  Either way, just make a plan, have confidence in it, and move on it.  You'll feel better.

~ Katy

ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12.  Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ!  No side effects.  We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments.  He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors!  Our love. Our funny little guy!

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16 April 2013 - 1:14 pm
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Tanya, I remember now there was something else I wanted to tell you. You said you've started Congo on fish oil, correct? You should call your vet to ask about that because fish oil can hinder surgery. My understanding is that it can act as an anticoagulant and you don't want that. Since it takes a couple of days to work out of the dog's system, my uneducated advice is to check with the vet now before you have a concern. 

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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The only emotion I felt was relief... and a little regret that we hadn't chopped the damn thing off sooner, because it had been making both of us very miserable for a long time! oh-my It was gut-wrenching to see him in pain, and even worse knowing that that pain was going to get SO bad that I was going to have to "put him out of his misery" in a matter of weeks.  WEEKS! And he'd be in MISERY until then!  Nope, it hadda go.

We had tried the radiation but after 2 weeks with no improvement I asked the vet if we could reconsider amputation (we initially weren't going to because of his arthritis) and she looked at me with utter surprise on her face & said "I was going to suggest that, but most people need to be convinced it's the best thing to do!"  Not me, I sat up crying with him every night for those two weeks wishing away the pain & anticipating the day he wouldn't be able to stand it anymore.

Now 6 weeks post-amp I still watch him romp around the yard & he kind of looks like he has one hand in his pocket. :)  His fur hasn't grown back, probably because of the chemo, and the vet said, "the body prioritizes, and it has more important things to do right now". :) But I love how soft & velvety he feels where he has no fur, and without the leg I can snuggle up closer to him.  I'm not completely used to seeing him this way, but he still looks as handsome as ever... maybe more, because all his experiences have given him an air of... sophistication... he never had before.

Kermit was always the goofball, the class clown, and the bull-in-a-china-shop.  But with all the vet visits, rehab, etc. he's actually "grown up" a lot (at 11 years old maybe it was just bound to happen anyway!) and I can do things like taking him to Petsmart that I could never do before.

In fact, we both rather enjoy going out now, because it's like going out with a rock star on your leash! EVERYONE wants to pet him & know what happened to him, and can they give him a cookie; and EVERYONE tells him what a good doggy he is and how impressive he is & how tough, amazing, cuddly, athletic... whatever.  As a dyed-in-the-wool attention whore, Kermit thinks Petsmart is NIRVANA!laughing 

All the dog cares about is that it doesn't hurt.  And that's all I care about for him. His resilience has made this goofball my HERO, and I'm pretty sure I'm his. winker  We know we're on borrowed time, but with the amputation we were able to borrow a LOT more of it, and it's INFINITELY better quality than what we had for the weeks leading up to the surgery.

Stop agonizing over it- if you're going to do it, do it soon- why put your dog through any needless pain?

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For me, once I embraced the amputation as a solutions to eliminating her pain and extending our quality time together, the "surgery site" was a beautiful sign signifying more time to love and be loved!!

Remember, Congo just wants to feel better and be loved. He doesn't know he's "sick" and doesn't give a rip how many legs he has as long as he can get around somehow!!

I think it was Dr,Dresser and Dr Ettingers. r book.....when you first see Congo after surgery don't even look at surgery so our don't alarm him. When they finally let me go see her after surgery (of course she was zonked) I must looked at her lovely face and was filled with gratitude for her life. The next day when I got to take her home and she walked towards me, I never even looked at where her leg was....and she didn't either!!! We just hugged and slobber kissed and wagged tails!!:-) :-)

Do you think a dog would change their behavior or look at their human differently if something happened to one of their limbs?? Not for a split second!!!

You keep on expressing ANY fears or concerns.....as you can tell' we all jump in with our two cents worth!!:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) we are here for you and will help in anyway we scan.

Sending you and Congo a wheelbarrow load of support.....and we have truck loads of support waiting in the wings if you need them!!:-)

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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I thought I would have a hard time seeing Shooter without his leg and had piled on the guilt because I was sure he would HATE me. That all disappeared with the sight of his smile and cry of joy when he saw me after surgery. As others have mentioned, we have developed a special bond that wasn't there before (he was more my husband's dog). He has become my velcro dog-where I go he goes.He still loves his Dad, but since I am with him during vet visits and did all the massaging, etc. we have become closer. You will love the new Congo so much you will often forget he only has 3 legs and wonder why the vet keeps using the same leg for chemo! (yes, both myself and my husband did that!)

You know where to come for a great cheer squad or a bunch of great listeners and someone will always be here. Send those naysayers our way if they need a little education!

Spirit Shooter was a Miniature Australian Shepherd who was diagnosed with a MCT and had a LF amp 1/28/13 at 13-1/2 years old. 

Shooter crossed the Bridge on 8/28/13, his 7 month ampuversary and two weeks from his 14th birthday.

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I dont see the oncologist until Thursday, that is when a plan will be made, until then I dont even know if he is a candidate for amp, (although his reg vet said he is).  If it is an option, I have pretty much come to the conclusion that this is the route I will be going.  I am trying to adjust to the idea of the feelings involved with looking at your once four legged dog who is now three legged.  

I am soo frustrated with peoples feelings about my possible amp dog.  People give me opinions without me even asking for them, ugh so frustrating.  I am really finding that people dont "get" it. My mother of all people, keeps trying to convince me that I should just do nothing and enhance his quality of life through foods and vitamins.  I dont think she gets how painful it would be for him.  Right now he is taking duramax for pain and is doing quite well on it, running playing jumping.  I wonder if I am not getting it, but from what I read, the disease is fast and painful.  I feel that if I do not act soon on his amp, he will likely need to be put down soon as the meds will not help forever. 

 

I will let you all know what happens on thursday. 

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Hang in there. People are well-intentioned but unless they've ever been in this situation they have no room to comment. People who haven't been through this believe that dogs aren't meant to live on 3 legs, but once it happens to you, and you see how your own dog handles adversity so much better than any human does, it will change your life forever.

Sounds like you have a great plan and your'e getting all of the info you need to make an informed decision. You know we have other members in BC, hopefully you guys can meet up some day.

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You know, after we got Jackson's cancer diagnosis and before his amp, I was mad at him.  I was angry at him!  I can't really explain it.  My first family dog, Britta, got bone cancer, but that nearly 20 years ago.  Oh my, how things have changed.  What hadn't changed was my hatred and fear of cancer.  I was convinced Jackson wouldn't get cancer, for the following: He is a mutt.  He benefits from modern medicine, an anal retentive mom, great body weight and activity level, and great food....and he still got cancer?!  I was angry.  At him.  It was weird.  That lasted about 3 days.  Then, we got him from his amp and it all changed.  I was there.  With him.  For him.  I took his leg away, and although he didn't seem to care (which is SO weird!), b/c I pulled that trigger, it was my job to escort him, support him, encourage him, and rebuild his confidence in this New Normal.  I also remember feeling relieved to have made the decision to amp and an even greater sense of relief when the amp was underway and completed.  Why?  Because that was the first step (hop?) toward getting Jackson's life and health back to normal.  We had done SOMETHING.  ANYTHING.  We cut that damn tumor out.  We were moving forward.  Forward on a path is so empowering.  It's something to sink your teeth, hope, and heart into.  Or bury your head in.  Either way, just make a plan, have confidence in it, and move on it.  You'll feel better.

~ Katy

 

 

Katy, I know what that madness feels like. I am mad, but not at Congo, I am mad at the people who bought him.  You see, I obtained congo at my previous job.  My old boss bought this pedigree black lab, to be a guard dog in his rail/gravel yard, (it was a trucking company).  Congo was left to sleep outside and was supposed to stay outside all day too, but I would always sneak him into the office.  I would get to work at 6am and stay until 9pm, just so he wouldnt have to be alone outside too long, sometimes I would leave him with a bed in the office if nobody was there.  One night some railway workers came into the lot and stole him.  I worked my butt off for a month and a half and managed to track him down and brought him back.  When I would leave for business trips nobody would feed him, my parents would go down to the office and feed him.  When I left my job, I told my boss that if he didnt let me take him, I would have the SPCA take him and I'd adopt him.  So I brought congo home in 2006 for his first glimpse of what a "home" is like.  I am mad at these people for everything, but for thinking that they are entitled to "visit" him now, after so many years.  I am here and always have been, I am the one who is dealing with this awful diagnosis. 

Well thats my vent winker

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Hmmm, how to respond to this in a way that's mature and articulate and with language that won't get me kicked off this site...winker laughing

Nope, can't do it.  The bottom line is that the world is full of douchebags. ugh  Fortunately you came into Congo's life and were willing & able to remove him and show him what love & home are about.  If it were me, I'd be telling those former "owners" in no uncertain terms where to go! laughing

Best of luck with your vet appointment and my advice would be to stop even discussing the options regarding his care with anyone who isn't able to be objective.  While we here are (ever so slightly)winker skewed in favour of amputation, that's only because we've seen the success most pets experience with it.  So really what we're in favour of is anything that will make our animals more comfortable and enjoy a good quality of life as long as possible. Who wouldn't want that?

So feel free to come here with any questions or concerns and be around people who will support whatever decision will improve your dog's quality of life.

Hugz to you and Congo!

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