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decisions to be made for 15 1/2 year old Dal with OSA
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Sonya, has your vet mentioned radiation? I think I have read on here that it can offer pain reilief. Also, check out the post on the medical marijuana for pets. Not sure if either of these would be an option, just trying to throw some things out there. So sorry you are going through this. Sound as if Miss Millie has an excellent advocate in you. 15 and 1/2 years wow!!! I know though, no matter how long we have them, it is still way too short. Keep us posted on how things are progressing. And this forum, you have just discovered the best support and friendship from kind souls who have been or are right where you are now. Lori and Ty

TY GUY, Best Black Lab ever! Diagnosed  and had amp in January, 2014. Kicked MRSA's butt. Earned his angel wings on April 16, 2014. Run Free my boy and don't forget a shoe. Ty is a proud member of the " April Angels". Ty sent us Daryl, a Tripawd rescue in Sept. of 2016. Daryl is 5 +or -. We are also Pawrents to Chandler, a Border Collie mix who is 15 and 1/2, Lucy, a Corgi who is 7, 2 minis, 2 horses, and a feisty cat named Zoe. Zoe had a non skeletal Osteosarcoma removed in July 2015. No Chemo, she was at least 16. She is going strong although she is now completely blind. She is now close to 20 and her hobbies are eating and sleeping in front of her personal heater. 

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Hello, everyone! I am back. My computer was in the hospital. They were unable to save it. Now I have a new one.

Lots of things have happened lately. I took my African grey to the vet Monday. He had a beak injury about a year ago that resulted in a small hole in the lower beak that grew slowly into a large hole that finally ended up in a split lower beak. Went to the vet (top notch exotics vet that I use for major issues with the birds & reptiles) to see if anything could/should be done. Got a great check up and since he could still eat, was a good weight and seemed well hydrated, it was decided that he really just needed a beak trim & would probably need them every 2-3 months but should be just fine. They took him in the back to do the trim & he passed out and died. I had had him for 24-25 years! When you get a dog you know they will die when they are around 12-14+ yrs old. It’s heartbreaking but you know it going into it. This was a barely middle aged parrot who just got a good check up…totally unexpected & very painful.

Our 9 year old lab X has been showing signs of kidney disease progressing over the past year or so–glomulerus issues & losing protein (is sick on paper only; if not for routine bloodwork & U/As we’d never know anything was wrong). She had a kidney biopsy this past Friday, results in 2-3 weeks. Ultrasound showed that one kidney was not too bad, still had good differentiation between medulla and cortex but that other kidney was showing signs of moderate disease.

Our 14 1/2 year old forever foster has a large hard lump behind her front leg. I found it Friday evening. I have been focusing on Millie a lot lately but I have my hands on that dog just about every day & just now noticed it, so this lump grew large very quickly. It’s larger than an egg, hard & kind of knobby feeling. I know you can’t really tell by looks but I know this is not a good lump. She will go to work with me Tuesday to see what we should do about it.

My Millie dog is still hanging in there, though she is in a lot of pain. We are trying a little bit different plan. Adding gabapentin, changing from Rimadyl to Piroxicam. Vet wants a 48 hour washout period before starting the piroxicam. i want her on the Gaba for a couple days before stopping the rimadyl, but it makes her a bit loopy so I have been giving only once a day for a couple days. Tomorrow we will try twice a day (directions are 2-3 times per day).

I will be looking into palliative radiation, but it really increases the risk of pathologic fracture & in our house there is no way for the dogs to get out without using steps. We have a ramp for one set that she uses well and another ramp for another set that she only uses if I guide her to it, but there are some other steps that i haven’t yet figured out how to set up a commercial  ramp safely. I would have to make something…doable but not yet done. There’s only one place in the area that does it & I was not happy with their neurology department with my first dog, but they are less that an hour (depending on traffic) away and I know i can’t judge one department by what I experienced with another. Plus they have moved to a new place, so maybe they are just better all around now.

So…it may be really close to time to let her go. I keep telling her that I will listen to her if she says it’s time. I’ve had to make this decision for other pets & what ever that thing is that seems different that has let me know “it’s time” is just not yet there for Millie, but she HURTS which makes me hurt.

Thanks for “listening”. This forum is one of the best/most supportive I’ve been on lately with all this medical research I’ve to do!

–Sonya

Sonya & "Millie"--born Feb 1999, diagnosed with OSA 8/27/14, set free 9/27/14
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22 September 2014 - 7:09 am
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Oh Sonya, wish I could do something to help relieve the emotional stress AND grief you are going through right now. This is such a tough time for you.

I’m so very, very sorry for the loss of your magnificent African Grey…..so shockingly unexpected. You clearly did everything possible for him and I know he jad the most glorious life with you. They are soooo intelligent and full of mischief and fun. I know you miss him dearly.

When y o u can, maybe you could post some pictures and tell us more about him and his relationship with you. Twenty five years! A whole lot of history.

And to be going through even more health issues with your Lab and your “forever foster”…geez….you have your plate full!

Thanks for letting us know sweet Millie is still hanging in there with you. I certain l y understand your apprehension about takingnher back to that same place. But as you said, it’s a different department…different location..so maybe you’ll jave a different experience.. Yeah, hopefully the switch in meds will help. The wash out period can’t see to come fast enough (I think I jad to wait three, maybe even four days, when switching from Prednisone to Piroxicam). I’ve seen noticeable improvement when I jad a dog on Piroxicam and I hope that helps Millie.

Just know we are all here for you and you are not alone, okay? You jave a computer that works now, so please stay connected to us…lean on us, vent, cry, scream…we’re here! We understand the emotional roller coaster like no others can. And we certainly understand the seemingly never ending sadness when you experience a loss like you just did.

Be sure and take care of yourself while you are taking care of others, okay? We eat a lot of chocolate around here to get through the rough spots…or because it’s sunny…or rainy…or Monday…or Tuesday…yeah, lots of chocolate!

Sending you lots of hugs and surrounding you with wonderful memories of yiur beautiful Grey…

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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22 September 2014 - 12:22 pm
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Hi Sonya, it’s good to hear from you. Wow your pack keeps you busy! They are so lucky to have you for a momma. Kudos to you for staying on top of their health care.

Thanks for the update on Millie. I hope she can stay with you and have more time without pain. Has your vet discussed  bisphosphonates as an option for her?

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22 September 2014 - 2:28 pm
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A friend who has worked as a tech at an ortho specialist practice said they used fosamax quite often.

However, my vet said that oral bisphosphonates are not readily absorbed by dogs and that IV ones are cost prohibitive. I did take Millie for a second opinion to a vet I used to work with who recently opened a mixed modality practice & she also did not feel they would help at at all. She was OK with what all my first vet had her on but also added a liquid herbal mix called hocksey and bone set. She was supposed to order some high potency Vit A & D. They said it was ordered but the two times I called to check on it it hadn’t come in yet. It’s been two weeks…

I am thinking about going for a surgical or onco consult just to see.

I am also trying to get in touch with yet another vet I used to work with who now has a small mobile practice to talk to her about home euth. I have heard that she has had some health issues and I may need to look for another mobile vet. Hoping that is not the case as I really did enjoy working with this gal & think she is the perfect choice for when it is time.

Today is day 1 (of two) of the washout period for coming off of Rimadyl and starting Piroxicam. It is not a good day. 

Sonya & "Millie"--born Feb 1999, diagnosed with OSA 8/27/14, set free 9/27/14
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22 September 2014 - 2:39 pm
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It’s great thatyou n have access to such a variety of ” health practitioners” To add the n holostic mix into her meds she’s o n now may really help.

Keeping all paws crossed for lots and lots more good days…tons more!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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So sorry for the rough time you are going through with all your fur and feathered kids………R.I.P. to your parrot, wow, to have him for even 25 years is amazing to me, but I know it is still never long enough…….hopíng for better and happier days ahead and I agree, all your fur kids are lucky to have you for a mom.

Keeping you, Millie, and all your pups in my thoughts,

Bonnie & Angel Polly

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22 September 2014 - 8:54 pm
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Love the Avatar picture of your dear friend…..he’s so handsome! A bond like the tw of you have can never be broken.

Hugs!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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22 September 2014 - 9:21 pm
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Sonya,

Good grief you have more than your fair share of heartache. Sorry about your parrot, that relationship was longer than most marriages. Sounds like you have a good plan and many advocates on yours’  and Millie’s side. I’m sure you will make the best decision when the time comes.

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Sonya,

I’m so sorry for your loss.  Bailey took me with her, she was my shadow.  It’s really hard.  I know you know what it feels like.  We also had a Dalmatian earn his wings due to the little old man of 13 Domino last Sept. 24th.  We have a Harl. Great Dane left her name is Bella (she’s 10) a little confused to say the least and the ways she shows I you definitely know she’s trying to ask hey where did sis go.

I just want you to know that I am thinking about you and I am here to talk at anytime just pm me. 

 

May God wrap his arms around you and comfort you.

God Bless.

Love and tight hugs,

Tracy and Bailey

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Thanks Tracy & everyone,

I brought home Millie’s little wooden box yesterday. I traded it for the body of one of my cats who I found Sunday night laying dead on the floor when I went into the cats’ room to feed them. While I’m not as close to my cats as I am to my dogs, this one was totally unexpected (I have one oldie that we thought had cancer but it’s been a good 3 years since his “diagnosis” but he’s still not right & I do expect to find him one day). This cat was only about 9, maybe 10.

Autumn belonged to a gal I rented a room to years back. This gal met various guys and started going with one of them & staying at his place more and more (like days at at time) without asking me if I’d be home and did I mind taking care of her dog (the cat could go a couple days with just food left out so not as big a deal). Eventually this became a problem & I asked her to move out & told her if she wanted to sign the animals over to me I’d find them new homes. So I placed the hamster & the dog & kept the cat. Now all 3 of them are together again…

Soon, Millie’s box will join Severn’s (my heart dog) box and Dolly’s box. I will probably add her picture to Sevy’s since they were my bookends back in the day.

Dee Dee will also soon have a little wooden box. Her sarcoma tumors have started to open up. I think there are 3 holes now. And her appetite has waned again (trying a new flavor tomorrow to see how that goes).

Autumn will go on the memorial shelf that currently houses 6 little boxes & a bunch of pictures & mementos. We plan to do something similar for the dogs once we find just the right “spot” for it

Sonya & "Millie"--born Feb 1999, diagnosed with OSA 8/27/14, set free 9/27/14
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7 October 2014 - 8:28 pm
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So sorry, I didn’t realize you put Millie to sleep. That must have been tough. And very sorry for your cat. Take care.

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I know bringing Millie home is bittersweet. For me, I found it comforting to have Happy Hannah back home…bittersweet, but comforting.

You jave been through so many losses recently. My heart breaks for you. Autumn was one lucky kitty to have you care for her after she was basically “abandoned”. Every animal who comes into your home is lucky!

And now your Dee Dee is javing “challenges”. Geez, you need a break! I’m just sorry you are having to endure all this sadness.

The pictures you shared above are such treasures! What beautiful dogs! How did Peaches get into the pack without being a Dalmation!? I meant to comment on your other post with all the pictures of the other members of your pack but lost the thread! What an amazing familynyou have!

When you can wrap your head around things and get alittle mental break, I hope you’ll share more about Millie and Severn and Dolly too. ‘Bet you have some great stories that will bringnhuge smiles to us all!

Just wish we could all do something to ease your pain. I know there’s a huge void in your heart right now. Just remember, Millie is nestled safely in a corner of your heart….as are Severn, Dolly and your Grey…and maybe even Autumn too…if the dogs and your bird make room for her!!!

Thanks for staying here and being so supportive of others. It’s hard sometimes, but I know it’s a beautiful way to honor Millie.

Sending hugs and love.

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle

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Ohhhhh lots of hugs coming your way, you’ve coped with so much lately! I’m so sorry.

Your animals are all so lucky to be with you and live such a great life in your care. What lucky critters. And yes, thanks for hanging out with us, you have lots of wisdom and experience with animals to share in our community.

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