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Suggestions on best cooked meat diet and supplements for bone cancer dog?
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9 October 2016 - 10:09 pm
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Hello everyone!

I've spent hours researching different diets for dogs with osteosarcoma and have felt overwhelmed with all the different approaches and information I've found. We're not so sure/comfortable with the whole raw food (meat) diet, but we definitely want to make a change from her kibble to something more cancer healthy.

What are some diet suggestions with cooked meat? Can we simply just throw some chicken and greens in a Crockpot? What are some good resources for recipes?

As well as diet, what are the best supplements for a dog with bone cancer? I'm sure this topic has been covered, sorry if I'm repeating something, I just am so overwhelmed by all the different options I've found.

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9 October 2016 - 10:28 pm
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There is a ton of information out there!

Have you seen our Nutrition Blog?  Lots of information there on diets and supplements, food reviews and member submitted diets.

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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10 October 2016 - 4:07 pm
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Hi! I'm right there with you in changing diets. We just got Chance's osteosarcoma diagnosis last Monday. I was going to transtion to raw food as that's what my other dog eats, but upon a ton of reading I decided to start first with the cooked diet available in The Dog Cancer Survival Guide. 

Here was my first recipe:

Chicken Breast, chicken liver. lightly steamed broccoli and brussel sprouts, cottage cheese, oatmeal. He sat in the kitchen with me the WHOLE TIME I cooked - he definitely knew it was for him and loves it. I am still mixing it with his old food because he has a sensitive tummy. Oh and I also give him about 1/4 cup of my morning smoothie which is kale, apple, blueberries, spirulina, psyllium, water. And then a sardine in oil for a mix-in with supper. 

I ordered some supplements that I will start adding in as well and I had been giving him fish oil daily but the book says that can sometimes cause bleeding issues with surgery and our surgery is on Wednesday this week so I stopped the oil for now. The supplements I got were Apocaps and K9 Immunity

Please keep me posted with what you try and what works best for you! We are seeing a holistic vet in a couple weeks so if he has any different diet recommendations I will let you know. 

Hugs to you and your pup!!

xoxo

Patricia and Chance

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10 October 2016 - 9:32 pm
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Thanks for sharing Chance's ingredients for his nutritional meal!

Sending positive energy for his surgery Wednesday!

All the Info on food, supplements, holistic, etc can be so overwhelming! I did some homecoming for my Happy Hannah, but I also used some of The Honest Kitchen products.

I also used the Apocaps and K9 Immunity , salmon fish oil, sardines, and bone meal. I was fairly consistent with these. I had to marrow things down to these few things. Itwas just too daunting otherwise.

Best wishes t all!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!


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3 November 2016 - 10:53 am
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Hi @birdmckenna,

This is a topic that should be visited by all dog owners, not just amputees in my opinion. A few years before my GSP Bentley was diagnosed with osteosarcoma and the subsequent amputation and now chemo, I had been researching healthier diets for my 2 dogs. Both are fairly large, Bentley is 50 lbs and Kobe, our GSP/Lab mix is about 60 lbs.

I tried raw food with my dogs, but they were not too keen on it and I wasn't certain it was right for them at this stage of their lives. Bentley is 9 1/2 yo and Kobe is 12 yo now.

After much research I determined that any kind of kibble was not really good for my dogs.  I bought high end kibble, but discovered that even kibble makers with the best ingredients process and heat the kibble repeatedly destroying any nutrients that may have been in it and then add synthetic vitamins. It was just filler for my dogs and maybe worse.

I eliminated kibble from their diets and began making my own based on books and research.  I made huge batches and froze it.  I did that for about 6 months and realized it was so much work doing this for 2 big dogs (in addition  I was cooking the meat and freezing it) that I was not able to keep up with it.  

I have simplified the process with Honest Kitchen dehydrated base food and for variety I've added Grandma Lucy's Freeze dried base food, both of which are simple to hydrate for their meal.  I then add cooked meat, chicken, beef, pork, and sometimes a bit of liver for variety. i cook the meat in advance and freeze it.  Since Bentley is currently undergoing chemo, I also add some greek yogurt in their morning meal for the probiotics, they seem to like it.  

The meat is pretty simple to cook and freeze, I only do it every 2 weeks or so and add it to the rehydrated base.  The good thing about the base is that they have the nutrients and vitamins that I was having to add to the vegetable base I was making myself.

Dehydrated and freeze dried foods seem expensive, but when I weighed the cost of kibble and canned meats to the cost of dehydrated and fresh meat, it was about the same.  Personally I try to use free range meats, which are more expensive, but I feel I am voting with my dollars and letting producers know what I want, so I buy with that in mind.

Besides the health benefits, my dogs eat heartily!  They love the real meat and never just sniff the food and walk away like they used to do with kibble and canned.  I feel so much better about feeding them real food.  I also supplement with fish oil, glucosamine/chondroitin, and Brewers Yeast with garlic for fleas....I never have fleas and I am in sunny San Diego, CA.  My vet told me that Brewers yeast for fleas won't work, and it may not for everyone, but I've been doing it for 4 years and my dog is highly allergic to fleas so I know when he has them and we haven't had fleas in all those years!  But that's for another thread...

I hope this helps with your decision, it is so difficult to wade through all of the information and arrive at what is just right for your dog and YOU.  

Good luck,

Suzie, Bentley's lucky adopted Mom way-cool

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7 November 2016 - 9:32 pm
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Thanks so much for everyone for the suggestions, advice, and recipes! This all helped a lot in our decision on what to make for Sadie's food.

This is what we're currently making (again, any suggestions on tweaking this are always welcome):

15% Vegetables lightly steamed and blended together, including carrots, zucchini, broccoli, and pumpkin.
5% Cottage Cheese.
75% Cooked meats/fish, including meat from whole chickens, ground beef, and canned salmon.
5% Liver meat.

We also supplement K9 Immunity .

Hopefully this all helps someone as it did me!

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