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Elly has severe IBD, is currently quite sick #relapse
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Shu and her mom are on the struggle bus (literally today!) as it relates to Shu’s brother Elliott (She’s hoping it’s ok for him to visit here for a quick second as Shu is on Royal Canin HP). Elly has severe IBD, is currently quite sick #relapse... and has tried every protein and Hills  hydrolized...we are at another need for a food switch and his remaining options are well, Very Very Novel... as in Alligator or Rabbit. Though I believe Fish is also on the final trifecta. His last and current protein is venison which we cook for him, along with rice and Hills ZD. The Blue Vet Solutions novel protein  alligator bag and cans are staring me in the face. What to do....We are waiting for our GI panel to come back from Texas A&M, after a U/S, UA, CBC and an email response from their internist re the DCM situation. 

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Of course Elly can visit! I moved your post here so that others who have dealt with severe IBD may share some input.

 his remaining options are well, Very Very Novel… as in Alligator or Rabbit. Though I believe Fish is also on the final trifecta. 

So have you tried these? How did he react? 

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I have decided not to feed him the alligator protein Blue NP after all the research I’ve been doing on the DCM as well as pea protein laden foods, which I think this might be. I’m waiting to hear from his internist on next steps.  Really tough stuff. I read that the warm white rice aspect of his recipe could also ferment and cause GI issues so I pulled that, filling the calories back in with his other components and trying a dose of Imodium (which he has had in the past) and he is worse off today. Hoping for some answers soon. 

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7 July 2019 - 12:57 pm
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Am no help as fas as informed jnput.....just want to send you pawsitive  energy and some extra supportive hugs.  You are clearly  a powerful advocate for your Elly and doing everything  possible to help Elly.

Any idea when A&M will have the results?  Any possibility  of your Bet finding  a way to have them expedite the process with a call (or multiple calls, emails, etc)?

(((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))

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Thank you so much Sally and Jerry's Pack for your support. I decided to go the multiple calls and emails route 😉 bc after I posted, sheer liquid rhea. Doc just replied on a Sunday, which is great. We will fast him for the day and continue the Imodium and she is calling in Cipro and Flagyl. She said to try Pedialyte and either oatmeal, mashed potatoes, cream of wheat, or cooked egg whites when we resume food and until results come back. They should be in by tomorrow. Luckily I saw this building/coming and he had U/S, U/A and CBC already. He contracted Salmonella from Shu (who came to us from Armenia with Salmonella, Crypto and Clostridium--I can't remember if I posted her story of "YES there IS something wrong with her" until we got down to it). I suggested he may have re-contracted it somehow (lizards!) so I will drop off Poo (capital P) on Monday. She said we could hospitalize him but we know him (King High Strung like his mommy) and if this is simply a stress colitis flare, it will only worsen him. Luckily I know how to do fluids at home if need be. Waiting for prescriptions...and gratitude for your kindness, as always. Elliott seemed to be jealous of Shu's presence on tripawds and just had to participate and make a guest appearance.

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I'm sorry your Elly is having such a hard time.

My quad-Pug Tani was diagnosed with IBD when she was about 4.  We switched to a duck and potato formula which worked very well for her.  It was grain free but this was way back in 2004 or so.  In Tani's case chicken was the main protein at the time of diagnosis.

She actually did her best when I dropped kibble as the main food source and went to Honest Kitchen dehydrated mix and to which I added my own protein- still duck. 

To be honest I was never sure if what she was reacting to was something else in the food, not necessarily the protein.  Her IBD diagnosis is what made me start researching dog food, educating myself and got us away from the big brand name foods that I had been feeding.  It was supposed to take a week or two for her to stop throwing up once I switched foods, but she stopped in a couple days... the vet was quite surprised.

I hope Elly gets relief soon!

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls

p.s. all your pack is welcome here, once you are here you are family and we care about all members- even those funny quads!

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

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              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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Awwwww thanks Karen! Thank you for sharing your story. Shu needs her bro and needs him to stay healthy. I’m on the research train now myself. Elliott is almost 6 and he was diagnosed very young. I think he was 18 months or 2 yrs old #recordschecktime. He has been through all the protein trials and failed them all so ....interesting thoughts that it might not even be the protein at all but some other ingredient. Hmmmmm. He has tried all the birdies, beef, lamb, and landed on venison with some hydrolized (which I’ve come to learn is pretty yucko quality) successfully for many years. I am very tempted to start cooking for him myself but I don’t know if I could master getting every nutrient he needs. It gets scary bc the thought of trying something new that makes him worse is daunting and can’t stay where we are at. For today I’m just tying to keep him hydrated and to stop the rhea. I’m grateful he isn’t vomiting. That had to be awful with Tani. Cross your fingers he will try some unflavored Pedialyte and Shu doesn’t get involved. Lol. 

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It gets scary bc the thought of trying something new that makes him worse is daunting

I totally get this!  Once Tani stopped throwing up all the time (it was 3 to 4 times a day!) I wouldn't allow her to eat anything but the food that she seemed to tolerate.  One positive thing- I was finally able to convince my dad to stop giving her people food smiley4.

interesting thoughts that it might not even be the protein at all but some other ingredient. Hmmmmm

It could also have been the quality of the protein- I was feeding crappy food so the chicken in it was not the best.  Later in her life I was able to give her chicken sometimes and she handled it just fine.  So it could have been the animal protein, or the crappy quality of animal protein or the other crappy ingredients in the name brand kibble.

Honest Kitchen has a couple of mixes without animal protein.  The one I used was preference and I added duck that I cooked.  They have another one without potatoes.  Both do however have peas...but according to their website they are in the process of adding taurine to all their mixes.  You might look at what they have and discuss with your vet.  Honest Kitchen. Maybe you can get away with feeding him a mix without animal protein for a while to get his system settled down?  That might also tell you if it is truly an animal protein causing the problem.  And maybe getting him off kibble altogether for a while would help.

I sure hope you can find something soon for him.  Tani's worst bout was throwing up several times a day for 3 weeks, of course right around Christmas so it was hard to get into a vet.  I don't remember her having issues at the other end- but she could have.  Tani passed about 9 months before I moved in with my dad and I think I threw away all of her records so I can't go back and check on what we did.

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls

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So helpful for you to share this... i was just thinking how special this place is..a place for people who really really love their pets. A lot. 

It can feel very isolating nursing a sick pup. I’m all stressed out and worried. Usually the worry is about Shu! She is graciously taking a sweet and understanding back seat this weekend. New side of her that is lovely.

You sound like you really really went though some tough times with Tani. Three weeks of vomiting? I would lose it. And at Christmas?? Oh my word!!

I will look into Honest Kitchen ...and you might be onto more than something with this notion that maybe it’s the quality of the protein, quality of the food, quality of other ingredients and maybe all these pets have had it and they’re like protesting with their bodies and souls!

My vet was amazing today. All day with the emails and meds and different places for meds and recipes and I was so grateful. She put him on Flagyl and Cipro and Imodium and then Cerenia bc the Cipro makes him puke poor pup. I’m trying to keep him on home hospital care and not have him go in. That will just send him over the edge. And me too as one of mine never made it home when he checked in :-(. Tonight she had me cook him scrambled egg whites, mashed potatoes, and oatmeal. Pedialyte unflavored all day which was a battle. He ate 90% of dinner so fingers crossed. 

Thanks for being there and holding us both. 

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Our Karen always provides  so much good information!  😎  Most of it is from first hand Pug❤ experience!  Those Pugs sure know how to keep her on her toes!😄

And Elly ate 90% of her meal???? GREAT NEWS!!!!   I love the relationship  you have with your Bet.  I can certainly  appreciate  doing anything and everything  that can be done at home without hospital visits.  

I'm  sorry about the hospital  experience  ypur loved one had.   When hospital intervention is needed, it's  always with best intentions,  wrapped up in hope, and with  a belief that the medical profession can make things better.  And, of course, it doesn't  always turn out that way.

You have left no stone unturned in giving Elliott  the best care possible, starting at 18 months!!   And he knows it too!!!

Now Shu, you stay out of Elly's scrambled eggs! We don't  want to see any pictures of you with egg on your face!!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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Lolololololol! You are too funny!!! Thank you for your message. No diarrhea this morning so HIP HOP HOORAY!!!!!!

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8 July 2019 - 3:13 pm
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He's pretty lucky to have you and your vet working on this issue, Shubeanie. I hope the meds and home cooking help him feel better.

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Thank you so much. We need good vibes. 50% of the bland lunch got in him after two hours of spoon and hand feeding. Hopefully will turn around soon and we avoid the hospital. 

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Oh I hope so too! 50 % is better than 0, stay pawsitive.

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