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8 February 2014 - 8:27 pm
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Where should I buy Artemisinin ? What other supplements do you recommend? He is currently on K-9 Immunity plus. I was going to do chemo but am having 2nd thoughts and think we might not. He has been eating Natural Balance grain free fish and sweet potato limited ingredient diet since he was a puppy. I'm thinking that I should switch his food. When my other dog had lymphoma we switched him to Blue Buffalo wilderness. What food does everyone use? I was looking into honest kitchen but it looks like I would have to add fats???? Any info is appreciated so much. I research constantly and am having a hard time sorting out what to do next.

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8 February 2014 - 10:38 pm
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Before trying any new supplements you want to go over them with your vet to ensure they won't counteract any current treatments.

The Tripawds Nutrition Blog is a good place to start your research. For example, here is a post about Artemisinin :
http://nutritio.....temisinin/

And we also recommend this free dog cancer nutrtition download from the Dog Cancer Vet:
http://download.....et-e-book/

Our Amazon blog also has good canine cancer diet books you can check out, for example:
http://amazon.t.....=nutrition

It really is overwhelming. My best advice: work with a holistic veterinarian to come up with a protocol, and stick with trying just a couple of things at a time. Too much all at once can make a dog miserable. Here's a good Tripawd Talk Radio episode about that:
http://download.....e-podcast/

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3 July 2014 - 8:55 pm
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Hi, Marshall's Mom:

Did you ever find out more about Artemisinin ? I am still looking for reliable info and where to buy. Found one online vet who suggested dogs need vigorous exercise after taking it. I wonder why? Also, there are apparently two kinds of it.

I would love to try it. I have ordered a couple Chinese Herb mixtures, but haven't found the artemisinin yet. My dog Blumi was (better: seemed) cancer-free for a year after amputation, Chemo, and metronomic therapy, but they just found it in her lungs, so I'm scrambling.

My conventional vet oncologist even mentioned artemisinin ... but the cancer hospital Blumi goes to is great in conventional techniques, but little informed about alternatives. And we are pretty much following their "last protocol" for Blumi with Palladia added to Leukeran. So far Blumi is not reacting too badly to it.

Any addiitional info appreciated.

ilse

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3 July 2014 - 9:43 pm
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Hi Marshall's mom.

I switched my dog Johnnie to a home-cooked diet as soon as he was diagnosed, in April, and he is also on K-9 Immunity Plus and weekly acupuncture sessions (originally for arthritis, now for boosting immunity).  His amp was in May.  

We live in Brazil, so you can imagine it isn't easy to find information or any supplements here. Thanks to the internet, I found Dr. Dressler's book and the Tripawds blog, and have been collecting information here and there.  Reading older posts in the tripawds forums is also an invaluable source of information-sharing.  

My daughter enrolled in a one-day dog nutrition workshop and we have been following the recommendations: high protein, no grains, very reduced carbs (yams, sweet potato), olive oil.  Johnnie and our other dog have adapted perfectly, and it hasn't been that much work after all.  

We also had second thoughts about chemo, but decided to give it a try, provided he didn't have many side effects.  Today is the 10th day post-carboplatin and he is doing fine up to now, so he has the second round already scheduled for July 15.  Will also start Apocaps - was waiting to see if he had any stomach issues with chemo before introducing Apocaps .  In my case the oncologist has no experience with either K-9 Immunity or Apocaps , but is willing to help.  I did research on Artemisinin , but there are no holistic vets in my area, so decided to leave it as a Plan B in case the chemo did not work out.  

regards from Rio, 

Daniela & Johnnie

Our awesome Golden Boy was diagnosed for OSA in April 2014 in the proximal humerus, front-leg amp on 05/20/2014. Finished chemo (Carbo6) on 07/10/2014. Ongoing treatment: acupuncture + K-9 Immunity Plus ( 3chews) and home-cooked no-grain diet.   Stopped Apocaps because of liver issues.   Liver issues: controlling altered enzymes with SAM-e and Milk Thistle.  October 17:  started having seizures.  Taking fenobarbital for seizures.  April 18: started prednisone.

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4 July 2014 - 2:36 pm
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Hi Marshall's Mom and Ilse,

Just a quick suggestion -- use the advanced search function on Tripawds to search the forums for Artemix (a combo that supposedly works well) as well and do a separate search for Artemesinin (make sure it's spelled correctly since I'm on a tablet and may not be spelling it right). Several other people have posted here about it, including links for where to buy it.

Also, search for posts from Ellen (Charley's mom) who is a big fan and is or was the moderator of a related yahoo group. She also has a blog, and another owner blogged about using it as well.

I'm thinking about trying it with Lexie and just started with a holistic vet/Chinese herb specialist. He wants Lexie to try a couple of other things for two weeks and then wait to add the Artemix or Artem.

Not sure if either of your dogs have lung mets but Lexie does. I had been using another herb, Yunnan Baiyo, since she was diagnosed with tumors (STS) and I put her back on it when I thought I saw another growth a few weeks ago. I stopped the YB when it appeared to be just a bite of some kind, and after that she seemed to start panting more often (which can indicate met progression). I put her back on the YB and it seems to make her breathing easier and has resulted in less panting. I've never heard of YB being used for mets, but thought I'd mention input just for what it's worth.

We stopped doing X rays/Chest scans since Lexie doesn't appear to be having bad symptoms now so I can't say that the YB is helping to slow them definitively, but it might be worth asking a holistic vet about YB depending on your dog's type of cancer.

Good luck, and please keep us posted if you do try the Art.

Deb and Angel Lexie* Diagnosed at age 13. Tried radiation first; wish we had amputated upon diagnosis (even with lung mets). Joined Club Tripawd April 2014 & Lexie loved life on 3 legs! Advice: Start physical therapy as soon as your vet clears it, especially hydrotherapy if available :-) See Lexie pics here.  

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4 July 2014 - 2:50 pm
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Not sure this will work from my tablet, but here is one helpful post. There are definitely others...

http://nutritio.....temisinin/

Deb and Angel Lexie* Diagnosed at age 13. Tried radiation first; wish we had amputated upon diagnosis (even with lung mets). Joined Club Tripawd April 2014 & Lexie loved life on 3 legs! Advice: Start physical therapy as soon as your vet clears it, especially hydrotherapy if available :-) See Lexie pics here.  

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