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When is the "right" time?
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2 June 2012 - 4:11 pm
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We have a 7 1/2 year old Rottie that was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in early February.  We're pretty sure in January she had it at this point, but, was confirmed after a 2nd Vet visit when the first one was to see if it healed thinking it was a fracture or just joint pain.

on February 28th, we had her front leg amputated where the cancer was seen.  The recovery was a little rough, having 1 ER vet visit for pitted edima in her good leg, her stitches pulling out, and fluid buildup which didn't let her heal.  SHe finally did, and was a very happy doggie.

We have just passed our 3 month ampuversary.  Where the amputation was, now has a huge cancer lump the size of 1 1/2 soft balls.  She also now has a lump forming on her back.  She went through 5 different chemo treatments, 3 different types of medications, and is on pain medicine.  The last chemo treatment was a daily dose at home the past two weeks.

She's now starting to wince now and then.  It isn't constant.  Sometimes when she moves, or even when she doesnt when laying down.  She's needing more breaks on her walks, which have been cut down to an end of the street and back again rather than around the blook since she's getting more tired faster.

SHe still gets very excited to see new people come in, tail nub wagging, but wagging and she gets up to run (well hop) to the door to say hello.  She just playfully licked our neighbors grandchild all over her face and snuggled up next to her to keep doing it.  SHe loves going on her walks, even if they are short.  And treats are the best thing in the world as always.

So.... when is the "right" time?  Some things just make me want to say not yet.  Others (just when she winces) makes my husband say maybe it is.  I know this decision isnt an easy one, and isn't for anybody.  I just don't want ot make it too soon when she still seems happy for some things...i think the wincing is what tugs at the heartstrings.

Thanks in advance for any advice.  Sorry this is so long as well.

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2 June 2012 - 5:22 pm
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I am so sorry to hear that the chemo isn't buying you the extra time you had hoped. It is heartbreaking.

Have you spoken with your vet to see if there are any other pain med options to keep her comfortable?  Is there any chance that her tummy might be getting upset by the chemo treatment and causing some of the whincing?  When Magnum had tummy upsets due to her metronomic palladia she whinced with every little gurgle of her tummy until we got it settled down with tummy meds. I know what you mean, that whincing tugs at your heart strings something awful.

Magnum spent her last month walking very little because it hurt to walk. But she loved sitting at the park and eating and meeting people and other dogs. She still loved life.

About 1 week before we made the decision the vet actually broached the subject and we were horrified. But Magnum did start to deteriorate over that following week.  The crunch for me came when she had several restless nights and on the last night she would start crying if I left the room for more than 30 seconds.  When I took her to the hospital an xray confirmed that she had a very large lesion on her hip bone.  She was bright, happy and still had a great appetite.  But, we couldn't control the pain anymore and with the risk of the hip fracturing at any time the decision was made for us. 

I know Jerry has mentioned the "penny jar" to help identify if the number of good days still outweigh the bad days. Dr Dressler also has a "joys of life" list in his book to help you objectively determine if the quality of life is still OK.  I referred to this list a lot during Magnum's last month.

It is such an awful decision to have to make but it is the most selfless thing we can do for our beautiful fur babies. My heart goes out to you. .

Magnum: 30th May 2002 to 5th May 2012. Lost her back left leg to osteosarcoma on 5th Sep 2011. Lung mets found on 20th Mar 2012 but it was bone mets in the hip that ended her brave battle. Magnum's motto - "Dream as if you'll live for ever, live as if you'll die today" (James Dean). Loyal, loving, courageous and spirited to the end. My beloved heart dog, see her memoirs from Rainbow Bridge ...... http://princess.....pawds.com/

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2 June 2012 - 5:52 pm
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I'm so sorry you are at this point. And don't worry about your post being long- this part is really hard.
When Maggie was diagnosed with oral melanoma on her upper pallete (her second cancer) I defined what her minimum quality of life was, I clarified in my mind what would mean we had reached the end. I found then that I was able to relax a little, and focus on making each and every day Maggie's best day. For us it was pain. Maggie did not tolerate pain meds at all (we tried many over the years, and she had kidney failure). I knew when I had to start heavy pain meds that we would be at the end. It was very clear when we got there, I had no doubt. It was a hard thing to do, but really the decision was clear. Maggie gave me a look that last night that I will never forget. I don't look back at it now as sad or scary- it was a gift, from Maggie to me.

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2 June 2012 - 6:12 pm
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So.... when is the "right" time?

So sorry to hear about your pup's trouble. many people have found our two-part post about how we coped with Jerry's final days helpful in answering your question.

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I'm sorry you find your self at this point in the journey. It is so hard. Many here have spoken of seeing "the look" on their pups' faces and knowing it was time. The day that we ultimately let our Abby go, I was back and forth with it all day... She was happy, tail-wagging, eating fine, but having a hard time getting comfortable w/ her breathing when she would lay down. She seemed so happy otherwise, that I just didn't know. But then, when she was trying to nap, she gave me The Look and I knew it was time. I called the vet right then and we were on our way.

I really do think you will let you know when she's done. Hang in there. Thinking of you and your girl,
Jackie, Angel Abby's mom

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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2 June 2012 - 11:34 pm
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I, too am so sorry you find yourself at this point.  Like Abby's mom said - there is a look. You'll know when.  We just can't explain it in black and white terms.  But you'll know.

My heart goes out to you during this terrible time.

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She was born with a deformed front leg and a tripawd all of her life.

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3 June 2012 - 2:57 am
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I know that many owners say you will see "the look" and just know. But I just wanted to chime in and say it just wasn't that easy for me.  I was very confused about whether Magnum gave me "the look" or not.  I think that is because she was still happy in herself and eating so well. 

I got "the look"a few times in the 2 weeks prior to her passing, mostly when we were in the car.  But it coincided with the tummy problems that Magnum had at the same time as she deteriorated with the cancer in her hip.  I interpreted the look for "please help me with this pain in my tummy".  I think I interpreted correctly because the weekend before her death she slept so well and there were no signs of "the look". But as the tummy was improving the hip was getting worse. 

I don't think it is always so simple.  The morning I took Magnum to the hospital she was happily "guarding" the house through the loungeroom window.  The sleepless night and crying if I left the room had all been forgotten.  But once we were in the car I was definitely being given "the look". Every time I looked around she was staring at me intently as if to say "please fix this".  And when we got to the hospital she actually looked relieved to be there, as if she knew they could fix her pain.

Magnum: 30th May 2002 to 5th May 2012. Lost her back left leg to osteosarcoma on 5th Sep 2011. Lung mets found on 20th Mar 2012 but it was bone mets in the hip that ended her brave battle. Magnum's motto - "Dream as if you'll live for ever, live as if you'll die today" (James Dean). Loyal, loving, courageous and spirited to the end. My beloved heart dog, see her memoirs from Rainbow Bridge ...... http://princess.....pawds.com/

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3 June 2012 - 10:05 am
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I'm so sorry amputation didn't get you the time we all hoped it would. It's so very hard to know that your dog's time is short. You are filling her life with all the things that are special to her. That's so important to you both. It's what makes it all worthwhile.

I've had to go through this 3 times in the last 5 years. Once was very, very obvious (sudden kidney failure); once was obvious to me but not my husband; once was less obvious. The least-obvious one was our Rottie mix who was so stoic she would probably have tolerated surgery without anesthesia. It was hard to get a read on her because of that. That's why I think the stoic breeds (or stoic dogs) need to be watched really carefully to make sure we aren't asking too much of them.

I'm sure you know your dog's little signs. You know when she is genuinely delighted (like with the neighbor's child) and when she's trying to make you happy. I would just say you need to make sure that her pleasure in life is genuine and not to please you. Rotties can be such big pleasers. She needs to know it's ok to tell you she's ready to go. Will she give you a look to say that? You can snuggle up to her and tell her it's ok to tell you. Many people here have said they've done just that and gotten their answer. Dogs are incredibly intuitive. Just make sure she knows you'll honor her wishes. She already knows you love her.

What is her name? Can you post a picture of her?

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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3 June 2012 - 11:04 am
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Thank you everyone.  Today is one of the "bad" days.  My Husband gave her an extra dose of the Tylenol with codeine, so it also could be causing her to be lethargic.  She hasn't moved from one spot in the livingroom since 9am (its now 12:30pm) and has finally at least taken a nap.  It amazes me that yesterday she was licking faces and playing a little, and today she's just laying in one spot.

 

Tomorrow is her follow up exam.  We may ask if there is anything else left, or, if we let her go.  We wanted to make today her special day, but, she just doesn't seem up for it.  Dog beach, hot dogs and lovins... but, its lovins and hotdogs instead.

We of course hope for some sort of miracle drug tomorrow, but, i think my husband is being more of the realist this time around with this.  Cancer will do what cancer will do.  Its hard knowing that if she didn't have this, she'd be happy and healthy at 7 1/2 years old.  I just wish we could have made it go away for her.

We're going to forego the cancer pills tonight to see if thats making things uncomfortable for her in hopes of a better night.  So, with very little hope for tomorrows visit, we'll see.  Going to be weird with a dogless house which is eventual regardless if its tomorrow or next week.  I met my husband with just my cat and his dog at the time.  We've grown into 2 dogs, a different kitty (mine was put to rest in 2005 with kidney failure) birds and a bunny thats the same color as Reeses.  Slowly they are leaving this world.  Our dog last May he had for 13 years, my first cat in 2005 of 17 years, 2 of the 6 birds we had, and now Reeses.

But... of course we chose to give them a loving home, and nobody can live forever.  It just hurts when it is their time.

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here is a picture of Reeses just about 4 weeks ago.  We just got the rug, and well, she LOVES it lol.  between actually laying on her tumor on it, she likes to lick it.  She's a goofy one. Not sure how to shrink it, so sorry its so big!

 

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3 June 2012 - 11:28 am
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What a cute, cute pic!  I love silly dogs!

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3 June 2012 - 11:29 am
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Oh yes, I remember Reeses! The chocolate and peanut butter cup pup!

I'm sorry today hasn't been great. It's awful to know our dogs are hurting and we can't do much for them. That's why I think it's so important for them to guide us, to tell us what we should do. I think they know before we do.

So many people here have reported improvement at the very end. It's uncanny, really, but it seems like they know they won't have to hurt anymore so they bounce a little. Of course, today could be the "blip" day and the next week could be really good for Reeses. Only you know how to judge. You'll make the best decision for her. As others have said, her pain will end and yours will begin. But this community is here. Whatever you decide, let us know and you'll be supported. I'm sorry you're having to do this. I really am.

Shari

From abandoned puppy to Tripawd Warrior Dude, Dakota became one of the 2011 February Furballs due to STS. Our incredibly sweet friend lived with grace and dignity till he impulsively raced over the Bridge on 12-15-12.

Dakota's thoughtful and erudite blog is at http://shari.tr.....pawds.com/

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3 June 2012 - 6:04 pm
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Just read the posts and I want to say how sorry I am for what you and yours are going through.  Prayers and a peaceful night.

 

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What an adorable picture of Reese.  So many happy memories you have made with her.  I am so sorry that your journey with her is nearing its end.  My experience has been with our previous dog, Gulliver.  One evening we all knew.  My children were with me and when my husband come home he took one look at Gulli and we all just broke down and cried.  I can't say Gull gave us a look.  We just knew.  It comes with loving, making the ultimate decision.  I wish you peace.  Please know I am holding Reese and her pack in my heart tonight.

 

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What a great picture of her! That is pure joy on the carpet there. It looks like she's had a wonderful life with you.

i'm sorry about the loss of so many of your animals recently. It's so hard to lose them, they are always such a huge presence in our homes. We're here for you and hoping for more good time with your gorgeous Reeses.

Sending pawsitive thoughts out to you,
Jackie, Angel Abby's mom

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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