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Back Surgery- not Cora's but mine
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I feel bad having just returned to the forums and already asking for advice. 😛 However, who better to ask then you fantastic people. So soon, I will be having back surgery. I don't know the exact date yet (bah humbag our medical system is @%@# up), but will on Wednesday unless some other snafu happens.

I don't know all the details of the surgery but I have a general idea of what to expect. I won't be able to bend, twist or life more than 5 to 10lbs. What I have been stressing out the most about is Cora. If you don't know Cora's story, she is blind, missing her right front leg and brain damage causes a variety of other issues like weakness on the left side. She's a tough cookie but she does need a lot of extra help in life. And I'm not going to be able to do it. In fact, it's already really hard to manage in my current condition.

So, I started reaching out to folks and trying to find someone who could take her in for a while. I've gotten a whole lot of "nos" and one pet sitting organization that might maybe have an option. It doesn't sound super promising and it would definitely be expensive. And it won't be anyone she knows or a place she's been before. She has stayed somewhere once before and it was rough and they aren't comfortable having her back for a longer stay. 

I have people who have offered to help her here. I'm mixed. I love the idea of her being here with me and not putting a blind dog through the stress of going to a strange place, but I am concerned about the logistics. Sometimes I help her in and out of the house. She can and will do it on her own at time, but there are also times when she won't or can't. One of the biggest challenges is when she first wakes up in the morning. She really has to pee but it seems to take her about 5 minutes to get her wits about her. So, if I don't help her after letting her out of her kennel, she is likely to pee on the floor. Similarly, at night, if she has fallen asleep before I send her out to pee, she just doesn't want to and won't.  She is asleep dang it and why am I waking her up and making her go outside. Doorways are hard. Imagine being blind, being wobbly because of brain damage and missing your front leg. Now you have to aim for the opening and go in a straight line or correct when you hit the door or frame. It's just tough. Once again, I often help guide her at that point.And then there's the floyd factor. Today when she was about to come in from outside, Floyd saw a car stop at our driveway and started barking like mad, at the door, Cora wanted to go through. So, Cora got all flustered and once again, I needed to help her in. I also give her pills 3 times a day and I was noticing I bend when I do that. I also hold her a bit if she's being wiggly.

So, realistically if people are going to be helping with Cora, they will have to stop at my house probably 3 to 4 different times to let her out? That's a lot and the offers I've gotten are sort of piecemeal. So, I started thinking that maybe I could convert half the porch (it is huge and has a roof) to a kennel for her. So, if there's a gap when people can't come, she could just be outside. She loves being outside and now that spring is here it shouldn't be too cold. I figure I'd put a piece of plywood across the south side which is the direction the wind comes from. And I was thinking that fake grass carpet kind of stuff for the bottom so it's not slippery but would protect the wood of the porch. It's also won't be slippery. Before I would be willing to leave her out over night, I'd ask a wildlife biologist if he thinks a covered porch that's mostly closed in is cougar safe. My take (I'm also a biologist but not as learned as him) is that it is. Especially since I have floyd the barker in the house.

So am I nuts? Am I missing obvious stuff? 

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Wow Chris! I wish all the Tripawd Nation lived near you! You would have zero concerns!! Where DO you live??

We understand "nuts" here! And we wear thst label proudly!

First and foremost, just because you aren't on here all the rime, doesn't mean you have ro "feel bad"! Are you kidding! No one ever leaves the family, whether they post or not! Once family, always a family!!

First and foremost again, you MUST make sure YOU are taken care of!! If the dogs pee in the floor, or even if Cora wobbles a bit too.much and has a bit of a hard time getting thru the doorframe, she WILL survive!

It does seem like the porch idea could work. I agree, to be placed in a strange home, with someone who just doesn't understand ner... nah, not good.

I wish I could be some help. Guess being a sounding board and bouncing ideas back in forth fro a distance is all I can offer. Looking forward to see what other ideas are coming your way.

You are such a special, special person Chris. You have such a hugely compassionate heart! It's such a privilege to know you through Cora...and Floyd...and all your pack!

Much love!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

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Dang my response disappeared, have no idea where it went. But here goes again:

Sometimes I help her in and out of the house. She can and will do it on her own at time, but there are also times when she won't or can't.

What are the situations in which you help her out? Is there anything you can do to modify her living environment so you won't need to help her? I do like the idea of a screened room for her, with wee pads just in case, and a cozy bed. Are you able to have a friend come over to get her outside a bit so she can get fresh air?

And then there's the floyd factor.

As much as I adore Floyd, I think part of the solution is to have him boarded somewhere. Am I wrong in assuming he has less issues than Cora does? Which would make him an easier boarder than Cora?

I also give her pills 3 times a day and I was noticing I bend when I do that. I also hold her a bit if she's being wiggly.

Can you get the pills in a liquid form so you can put them on her food? Is there any way to have her stand on something raised while you give her the pills?

And like Sally said, she WILL survive if she knocks into something. The few challenges she'll have at home seem minor compared to how discombobulated she could get if taken to another home for a bit. You'll know it's temporary but she won't, and all that pawgress you made could go away.

Yes, do take care of yourself. Back surgery is a huge investment in time and effort and money, and not following Drs orders could wreck the whole thing.

By the way, PM me and tell me what town you're in again. We might have a member nearby.

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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thank you both. I guess we are going with the porch idea. Everything is still up in the air because insurance is awful. Apparently the first thing they did was a pre-determination... which means... I'm not even completely sure. Like they basically said, yes, we cover that type of surgery. But that didn't mean they had "authorized" the surgery. So, I had my consult and was told surgery couldn't be scheduled because now the surgeon (well, his office) had to submit the pre-authorization. So I called insurance 2 days later to check on the status. The first time they said they hadn't even received it. So I called my doctors office and got a confirmation number and called insurance back and after being on hold for quite some time, being told it was "pending" and then being transferred I was told it could take up to 15 business days for them to approve it. Meanwhile I have had 2 doctors and my chiropractor tell me I need this surgery and that I shouldn't delay because the longer I'm in this condition the longer I risk permanent nerve damage. So, I don't know when my surgery will be which has made it hard to plan. 

But, I my friends came over yesterday and we made a pen for Cora on the porch. Floyd ended up getting locked in the bedroom while the work was being done. Too much sawing, hammering and people for him. Cora was quite happy playing in the yard, pausing to listen to the weird noises. She is such an adaptable, resilient girl. And today, I let her check out the pen. She never bumped into the new wall and when she was done exploring she walked up to the gate and stopped in front of it. She amazes me. She's got some bedding in the most sheltered corner. There's some blankets with that too but they were getting laundered. The porch has a roof. So it's pretty dang sheltered and should be protected enough to be cougar proof. So she can be out there a good chunk of time without me moving her in and out. A couple pictures below. The 2nd one makes me very happy.

I'm out of work and since I'm not doing much, it's good practice for Cora and I on how to get her in and out without me bending or lifting her. The no bending is hard. I never realized how much I guide her by putting my hand on her side or rear. I can't walk very far without my leg getting really weak and shaky, so I have a walking stick to help me get around. I'm now using that as my "hand" on Cora. She doesn't mind. And for those who remember, Floyd has been terrified of sticks or stick like objects. I have no doubt he was beat with one before I got him. He's done remarkably well with it. He gets nervous sometimes but over all is doing better than I expected so that's been some good training for him too.  The only really dicey moment was when Cora got over excited and reared up and started falling over backwards, I reflexively reached out and pushed her back forward. I can't imagine letting her fall over backwards where she could bang her head, I'm just not wired that way, so I will need to figure out a new reflex for that. I will have a back brace right after surgery so I imagine that will tone down my foolishness. For the pills, liquid won't work. I tried doing it when she was standing on the stool to eat, but that wigs her out. However, she's really good if I give it to her when she's laying down. And my knees are good so I can crouch an do that. I know it looks weird but I've been doing a lot of crouching because it's more comfortable than standing.

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Cpra has a great little doggy xondo! I think she knows it was built just for her! She looks so cuteas she's checking it out!

It really looks like she will be perfectly safe and comfy. Good job!! You've come up with a great solution.

Great idea about using the stick too, as a way to help balance her. And how 'bout that Floyd not being scared of it? Quite a victory!

Topher, you HAVE to take care of yourself! If not for yourself, for Cora and Floyd! I know you're.bei g careful and trying to adapt to "safer" ways of doing things. But you need that surgery! Can't you Surgeon call the insurance company and insist your palerwork be expedited? This is crazy to make you wait any longer! I'm sure you are frustrated beyond words. You really need ro let your Doctors knkw what's going on. They need to step up and be your advocate!

And this coukd never be said enough....what you have done for Cora is a miracle!!

Keep us posted.

Lots of love!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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This is a great little area for Cora, and I agree with Sally, wishing there were a bunch of us Tripawd friends near you, you wouldn't have to worry about a thing. I am guessing if you live in cougar country, that must be on or near the west coast, or at least the western part of the mid/upper west...... 

I know this is a stressful situation, and I don't have any other suggestions, but I know things will work themselves out. I also understand the back problems, it is difficult living with the pain, and inability to do many normal things through any given day. 

Keeping you and Cora, and Floyd in my thoughts, 

Bonnie, Angel Polly, Pearl, and Zuzu 🐾

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Oh what a great space for her! I'm so happy you and your friends were able to put that together. Very cool!

Insurance bureaucracy...ugh! Well use this time to practice not bending, I have no doubt you'll figure out ways to adapt just like Cora. Talk about an inspawration to help you overcome the recovery. Keep us posted OK? We're thinking of you both.

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Beautiful enclosure.  Probably was a great idea even if you did not have to have surgery.  Best wishes to you both!

Otis - 106 pound lab/Dane mix, lost his right front leg to osteosarcoma on Febuary 9, 2016.  Four rounds of carboplatin completed in April, 2016.  Lung mets August 25, 2016.  Said goodbye too soon on September 4, 2016.   Lost his adopted sister, Tess, suddenly on October 9, 2016. likely due to hemangiosarcoma.  

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Thanks everyone.  

Once the doctor told the insurance it was urgent, things happened really fast. I had my surgery yesterday, very early in the morning and I am home and under the care of friends right now. My back was worse than expected when they got in there but I am feeling super optimist. I've got movement back to my toes and the leg pain is significantly less than it was. 

Cora has been great. She's let my friends do all sorts of stuff for her. The only thing I'm doing is actually sticking the pills in her mouth and my friends have been amazed at how good she is. 

Floyd... he's having a rough time. He's just too sensitive. He didn't leave my side at all at first and I had to coax him to go out and pee. He hasn't eaten. He is in "guard mode" and doesn't really want anyone near me. He hasn't let the cat jump on me which is nice. He has let my friends near me, but only with me telling him it's ok. I wish he would chill a bit but having him next to me is kind of nice.

Since things happened so fast, I'm a bit worried. I don't have anyone for Cora for some of the time. I'm also on a long recovery route, so Cora will definitely be making use of the pen. I'm trying not to think to much about what all the doctor said about my recovery. One day at a time.

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Oh what a great space for her! I'm so happy you and your friends were able to put that together. Very cool!

Insurance bureaucracy...ugh! Well use this time to practice not bending, I have no doubt you'll figure out ways to adapt just like Cora. Talk about an inspawration to help you overcome the recovery. Keep us posted OK? We're thinking of you both.

Yeah, at my lowest moments Cora has totally been my inspiration. I have been afraid of permanent nerve damage and while I've been trying to keep a pawsitive attitude there are those moments, when the blahs have crawled in. Cora's been great at hugs and reminding that there is always a way.

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Oh Topher ... we all wish you a speedy recovery and safe recovery!!!! I wish I could help more and if I was anywhere nearby, you could count on me.

Sending you lots of healing energy!! Sounds like you have some good friends and Cora is doing well. And you have fur-babies as nurses which are always the best!!!

Hugs!

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Okay, as we say here in the site...YAAAAAAAAAY FOR TOPHER!!! SURGERY IS OVER AND RECOVERY IS IN THE WORKS!! 🙂

The fact that your leg is already in less pain than before..WOW!!!

So glad things are working out with Cora. I think she has already shown that you need not worry about her, she'll get through...jist like you will!

Now that Floyd, what a guy!! Don't know if his behavior was a surp or not, but it's certainly endearing, even if it is a bit annoying!

TRY and put ALL worries aside, okay? Doctors always seem to paint a worse case scenario as a "cya mechanism". As you already know, whatever is thrown your way...Cora's way...you figure it out and work through it. You are handling things today and, like always, the tomorrow will take care of itself!

Thanks for updating us. We're all sending healing energy!!

Lots of love!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Woooaaah! Oh my gosh I just saw this after replying to your PM, had no idea you had the surgery already!

How awesome that you're starting to feel less pain, that is a very good sign. Yay!!!!!

Cora is so awesome. Floyd just isn't used to seeing his pack leader having some down time.  He'll get used to it. Remember, the more you project strength and calm, the more he will be calm.

Your friends sound wonderful. I wish I knew someone closer to you that could be there to help.

Well, take it easy, don't do too much and get well soon OK? Keep us posted.

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Topher,

Love the pen and that Cora is adjusting to it.  As Sally said Yay for your surgery.  Now you know when you went through the recovery period with Cora after having her stump removed good & bad days but you need to take care of yourself.  The fact that Floyd feels the need to protect you is good he knows you are hurt. 

Those blah days remember Cora has proved everyone wrong with her recovery & situation and one day at a time for you and you can prove them wrong too.  You all are a team. 

Remember all those stats the vets gave you for Cora?  Well she beat those and that is what they gave you were stats.  So we know and will be saying prayers no nerve damage.  Feeling in the leg and less pain is great

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WELL SAID MICHELLE!!! Very well said!! Every word is so true!! Topher, write Michelle's words down and read them everyday!!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Glad to see your surgery has happened and that it was a success, now take one day at a time for healing...... Also glad everything seems to be going well with sweet Cora's care, that must be much less stress for you for sure. Both Cora and Floyd can sense you need them and their "protection", I love that about dogs. Mine have always been that way too, even my one cat is that way. 

Keeping you and Cora and Floyd in my thoughts......

Bonnie, Angel Polly, Pearl, and Zuzu 🐾

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