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Michigan
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20 August 2017 - 12:34 pm
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I'm sure I'm overloading my Facebook with Charlie pics and stories right now, but it does make it possible for me to upload pictures on the Tripawds threads. smiley  This is a pic of Charlie's new cone, his sewn on bandage, and of Weston giving his kitty a chin bath.  The meds are sticky and Charlie hates the taste, so he drools some of them out and his fur gets gross:

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20 August 2017 - 1:07 pm
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osbornm1 said
I'm sure I'm overloading my Facebook with Charlie pics and stories right now, but it does make it possible for me to upload pictures on the Tripawds threads...

big-blink Just know that the Faceborg periodically clears out their static content cache*, resulting in third-party hosted images to eventually disappear and be replaced with broken image links wherever they were embedded – like here in the forums. way-confused

* For Example: Image URLS (like for the photo above) that begin with "scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net".

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20 August 2017 - 1:13 pm
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Oh no!  It didn't show up?  I can try it again.  I noticed I couldn't upload as a file, so I use the links from my Facebook posted photos way-confused

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20 August 2017 - 4:28 pm
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osbornm1 said
Oh no!  It didn't show up?

Yes, it did. For now...it will likely mysteriously be replaced by a broken image link someday. Not a mystery really...don't get us started. whatever

osbornm1 said
I noticed I couldn't upload as a file, so I use the links from my Facebook posted photos...

Yup, images must be hosted online somewhere. Facebook just doesn't like serving up data they host for anyone but the Faceborg. Whatever you do, don't use Photobucket! Many free hosting services are temperamental that way...this is exactly why we offer free Tripawds Blogs .

For more information, here are detailed instructions for adding photos to forum posts . If you don't already share photos online somewhere, you can start a free Tripawds blog any time and upload them there. Need further help? Post in the Tech Support forum and we'll be happy to help!

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20 August 2017 - 4:57 pm
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Gotcha... I didn't realize that Facebook photos would end up as broken links way-confused I'll probably have a lot to blog about through all of this.  It's been an emotional roller coaster. 

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20 August 2017 - 7:18 pm
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My goodness you all have gone through a lot.  Thanks for sharing the pictures.  I used baby wipes in a pinch to clean up Obie, who also enjoyed drooling his medicine out. 

Hope you get a chance to enjoy the eclipse tomorrow!

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22 August 2017 - 11:49 am
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We are picking up Charlie this afternoon.  The open area on the wound we were concerned about didn't concern the surgeon as much as it concerned the ER vet, so he cleaned it up two more times before closing it.  He did leave a little hole for drainage in case more fatty tissue dissolved.  The problem he saw was the little gray patches that he noticed the last time he saw Charlie.  When I look at the picture above I can see what he's talking about.  He said that it indicates necrosis and that those areas did not recover it's blood supply after surgery.  Last Wednesday it wasn't as clear if it would recover, but he said that now that it's been a few more days that it appears to have declared itself.  He cut those areas out yesterday to keep them from spreading to healthy tissue.  So, now Charlie has a few new open spots.  We will be going in for daily bandage changes.  If those areas recover well, they can be closed up after a week or so.  If not, he has to have a 'skin flap' done to put live tissue over the area.  Best case scenario will be $2,000 to $2,500 (not including the $497 for the ER visit on Saturday), worst case scenario that would require a skin flap will be $1,500 to $2,500 more than that.  If we just removed the dead tissue and waited for it to regenerate on it's own, it would be painful and take significantly longer to heal even if that would be cheaper than closing it up or doing the skin flap.  Considering that Charlie will need radiation, waiting is not ideal.  We see the oncologist when we pick up Charlie today as well to talk things over and see what his thoughts are on whether radiation will still be as effective if it is delayed.  I feel like everything is going wrong.  Our poor kitty boy.  If this cancer ends up taking him from us anyway I will feel guilty for putting him through all of this additional pain, even if we did this for the right reasons.  You all weren't kidding when you said this was a roller coaster. 

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22 August 2017 - 2:47 pm
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Hang onto us okay?   The fact that you haven't been driven bat s**t crazy yet is quite a testament to your inner stength!!   You may not realize it, but trust us, you are doing an outstanding job of processing things and doing what needs to be done to help Charlie recover!!

Unfortunately, what is happening to Charlie is something that we do, indeed, see here more often than we would like.  Knowing that this is not completely unexpected during recovery isn't very "comforting" to you in anyway I'm sure!!  Just letting you know your regular Vet sounds like he's really on top of things.

I know it's hard at this point in recovery to feel like you did the right thing....but you did!!!   The incision WILL get cleared up (one way or another) and Charlie WILL get past all these "recovery hurdles"!    And we will all be right here celebrating with you! 🙂

Let us know what the Onco says when you have a chance  to catch your breath.   

And keep the CHOCOLATE close to you, very, very close!    Snack on as needed........about every thirty minutes sounds like a good plan for now!

Okay Charlie, we're cheering for you sweet man!!!

Love and hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

PS........Sometimes we see the Surgeons get EXTRA clipper happy during their amputations.  Looks like Charlie may know one of those Surgeons personally!! 🙂

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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22 August 2017 - 2:55 pm
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I am so sorry to hear that Charlie is having further problems with his incision healing.  Unfortunately as stated before, Charlie situation is very familiar to what Tuxedo and I went through.  We also were presented with the choice between essentially open wound healing and skin flap surgery.  I chose open healing, for several reasons, including cost.  However, Tuxedo's amputation was necessary due to trauma not cancer and he had numerous other wounds which were also healing at the same time.  So, time, while a factor, was not perhaps as important.  While no two kitties are going to have the same exact responses or be in the same condition, in case it helps any, here are a few things I considered.

You mentioned the need for speed of healing so that Charlie could start radiation treatments.  Be sure to ask some hard questions about skin flap surgery if it looks like that might be necessary.  If I recall correctly, I was told 2-3 weeks of healing time for that option.  This was roughly 2 weeks after the initial surgery.  For Tuxedo total time after amputation surgery & infection/incision healing was around 6 weeks.   In other words, by not going with the flap surgery, Tuxedo's healing time might have been one week longer.  If open healing is chosen, how deep does the granulation bed need to be before radiation can begin, etc.

Also, inquire about the relative pain levels (treated with medication) of allowing the wound to granulate in vs an additional surgery with another incision to heal.  Tuxedo was not on any pain meds during the period of infection/bandage change healing.  He never seemed to be in pain either.  Yes, he was sedated for all bandage changes.  But he was zooming all around the place like normal once I got him home.

If Charlie is having issues with skin/tissue necrosis what are the odds that second incision site required for the flap surgery could provide another potential source?

Sending Rapid Healing Wishes And Prayers Your Way.

-Dawna, Tuxedo, & Dazzle

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22 August 2017 - 3:07 pm
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DAWNA!!!   REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK!   CHOCK FULL OF GREAT FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE! 🙂   Thanks soooo much for sharing your knowledge!

Give Tuxedo a couple of extra ear scratches for me:-)

Hugs!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

And a PS off topic....thanks for your kind offer awhile back on another post to help this very UNtechie tavlet person navigate stuff from a "tavlet point of view"!  Very kind of you! 

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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22 August 2017 - 5:49 pm
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Thank you, mommatux! That really helps me find my way through the fog.  I can't even tell you how much better I feel reading about your experiences and the options you had.  We had a different oncologist come in and he didn't seem to have read the report beforehand since he just mentioned this is 'likely' a higher grade based on the sarcoma type so recurrence is more likely and that with some residual cells found that we need to be prepared that radiation may not prevent recurrence, just delay it.  It was general information we already knew and none of it was specific to Charlie.  The oncologist then just ran down the different treatment options once Charlie is actually healed enough to receive it. It may be because they combined our appointments with soft tissue surgery to pick up Charlie and they just had oncology stop in.  I actually got more information from the head surgeon on the report during that visit.  He did say again that the cells they found on the margins did not match the cells in the sarcoma itself (this time they didn't try to convince me that the margins were 'clean').  They could be a form of cells from the cancer or just inflammation, but we should treat them as cancer either way.  He also said the unusual thing about Charlie's sarcoma was that the center of the sarcoma was more aggressive than the tentacle like growths around it.  I guess it's usually the other way around.  He said that a few weeks of waiting for healing may not change the effectiveness of radiation since the cells are not the same aggressive type found in the center of the sarcoma, though he can't really guarantee this.  Maybe the oncologist we usually see will have better information for us.  At this point, I feel like I don't even know what decision to make. 

I think right now I just need to remind myself to focus on getting Charlie's wounds to heal.  I also started looking into funds that can help pay for radiation and asked the vet that administered the vaccine to inquire about reimbursement.  That vet's office hasn't actually had to seek reimbursement from the vaccine company yet, so they are asking them about it for us now.  I had MSU fax the records over to them and I emailed pictures of the tumor's location to them.  Does anyone know what the vaccine company actually reimburses?  Will they cover diagnosis, testing, surgery, and radiation?  Or just a few of these things?  I'm so heartbroken...  I just want our kitty boy to have the best chance possible. 

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22 August 2017 - 6:34 pm
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http://tripawds.....rosarcoma/

I think you're spot on right now to just focus on Charlie's recovery and which path forward you wwnt to take regarding healing the incision.  I also think you are spot on to talk further with the Onco who has been treating  Charlie to being more clarity regarding how you want to proceed with treatment options and when (radiation, etc)

Here's a link started by Kerren (kitty Mona) who brought us a lot of  info regarding vaccine related issues.    In one of her posts she mentions that some pharmaceuticals reimburse 59%...And some less.  At least that gives you a general starting point.

Sorry, just tapped the "link" and it showed at the top of the page....anyway....you at least have it!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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23 August 2017 - 9:16 am
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Thank you, benny55!  That thread is amazing.  I wouldn't have thought to ask the vet to do this for us without it.  I did receive an email from the vet's office that said the vaccine company rep they work with said that they would help us.  They have the fax from MSU and will call and talk to them directly today.  I did ask the vet to get more information from the vaccine company rep on what exactly they reimburse to see if radiation would be something they will help pay for as well.  It will just help me decide whether I should seek the reimbursement now to help pay for radiation, or to take out a loan to pay for radiation and then seek reimbursement so that those costs are included as well.

The good news is that Charlie is eating and drinking really well now.  I think he feels better.  🙂  

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23 August 2017 - 8:13 pm
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Hi there Charlie's mom,

Thanks for sharing your journey here. I just wanted to reach out as another person going through a similar journey with our kitty Maceo, whose vaccine related sarcoma is on his shoulder. He hasn't had his amputation yet (next Thursday Aug 31), but he has done 20 sessions of "definitive" radiation at UC Davis and will likely be going on chemo afterward. 

If you ever need a person to talk to, or any tips on radiation, please feel free to message me! I also started a blog here http://maceo.tr.....pawds.com/ but I haven't had a chance to give it the work it needs! 

Regarding financing -- it's so expensive and unfair, but on the other hand, it IS our family member and what can we do? These are the cards we're dealt, and I guess it's times like these that really say a lot about who we are. 

Yes I realize we all have coworkers and acquaintances that wouldn't understand or do the same thing, and maybe they'd rather spend it on something else, but the way I see it, Maceo is worth more than 10 vacations to Europe -- or whatever else I'd be saving that money for. 

The radiation was expensive, but he did great with it, and it offered him very fast results on his tumor (he did pre-operative radiation, and the tumor shrank by about half). It was a challenging process with the catheter and cone every day, but he got through it and now on to surgery... 

Anyway, please keep updating and thank you for supporting and loving Charlie so much! 

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23 August 2017 - 8:19 pm
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PS, we also have a kitty named Charlie. Here are Charlie and Maceo together (Charlie is on top, you can see Maceo's tumor and bald patch from the radiation). We made this little hutch for Maceo out of one of those Ikea baskets, and of course Charlie had to participate.

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