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Wookie has a lung met
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Orange County, CA


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5 September 2012 - 3:18 pm
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I am just devastated. Wookie's 2 month post-op radiograph shows a met. Just one, but there it is.

After Wookie's surgery I had convinced myself that he was going to be one of the lucky few who beat cancer. And believe me, I know better. I know what the odds are. But somehow I thought I'd be able to save him. 

I know I should be happy that he is feeling great right now. I know he still has some great quality time ahead, and I should be happy about that. But I'm not happy right now. In fact, I can't stop crying. It's like I just read his death sentence.

I don't even know what else to say.

Right hind limb amputated 7/3/12 for OSA, started on alternating cycles of Carboplatin and Doxorubicin and oral Palladia. Single lung met 9/1. Met in the neck muscle removed 9/30. Large mass in sublumbar lymph node 10/2. Rescue chemo with ifosfamide 10/6. Mets to the rib and axillary lymph node 10/21. Started Leukeran and Pred 10/25. Wookie left this Earth for a far better place on 12/4/12. I miss you, Boo, you were my heart.

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5 September 2012 - 3:58 pm
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It's always devastating to hear this news.  I remember the day we were told Max had a lung met like it was yesterday.  I know you've read it on these forums before, but you have to remember this:  Wookie doesn't know he's sick, only you do.  And that's a really heavy load for you to bear.  But no one knows how much time any of us has.  There's no "expiration date" stamped anywhere.  Wookie could have A LOT of great time left.  I'll tell you what one doctor told me:  don't panic until you have to.  (I know, easier said than done.) 

Talk to your doctor, see what your options could be.  There's been a lot of changes in the treatment of this disease since our boy was sick.  I believe there have been several recent members who were on the metronomic protocol to keep their mets in check.  But in the meantime, don't let Wookie see you sad.  There's a time for that, and it's not now.  Now is the time for you and Wookie to live life to the fullest.  Which for a dog means eating, sleeping, playing and being with his people.  They don't really ask for a lot, do they.

We'll be thinking of you and keeping you and Wookie in our thoughts and prayers.  And if you need any support, please remember we're just a few miles south of you in Tustin.

Diane & John

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5 September 2012 - 4:15 pm
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I am so very sorry to hear this-- but don't despair.  Zeus has had a lung met for nearly 10 months now (it was even present at the time of diagnosis) and it has (thankfully)  remained a lonely party of one.  Jerry, Abby, Levi, Lylee and so, so many others had lung mets for months to years-- yes, years.  He still may well have a lot of quality time left. 

Scout: January 31, 2002 to November 7, 2011

Scout's diagnosis was "poorly differentiated sarcoma"; amputation 1/11/2011.  Scout enjoyed 9 fantastic years on 4 legs and 9 glorious months on 3 legs.  If love alone could have saved you…

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5 September 2012 - 4:27 pm
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Well, I am his veterinarian, actually. He is already getting chemo and metronomic treatments (Palladia). I have him seen by an oncologist because I cannot be objective about him right now.

I'll retake xrays in 20 days and see what happens. Maybe we'll get a miracle. 

I'm sorry to sound so down, but my heart has been crushed. I know I'll be a little more accepting with some time.

Right hind limb amputated 7/3/12 for OSA, started on alternating cycles of Carboplatin and Doxorubicin and oral Palladia. Single lung met 9/1. Met in the neck muscle removed 9/30. Large mass in sublumbar lymph node 10/2. Rescue chemo with ifosfamide 10/6. Mets to the rib and axillary lymph node 10/21. Started Leukeran and Pred 10/25. Wookie left this Earth for a far better place on 12/4/12. I miss you, Boo, you were my heart.

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5 September 2012 - 4:37 pm
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Oh my gosh please don't apologise for sounding down. Many of us who have faced cancer know exactly how you feel, it's awful. 

I'm so sorry! I know this hard news to take so soon after surgery. But I want you to know of some cases that will hopefully give you some hope that this met will stay stable and not do any harm. For example, these dogs have/had lung mets for a long time (and Zeus is STILL kicking butt!)...

Senior Dog Zeus Living Large, Against All Odds

Reno: 3-Years Thriving with Canine Osteosarcoma and Lung Mets

There are more, but these two amazing stories should lift your spirits, I hope.

Keep the hope in your heart, there are cases that defy all odds, we have seen them here, and we hope with all our Tripawd might that Wookie will be one of them too. 

You can vent here anytime you want.




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5 September 2012 - 4:39 pm
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Feel so sorry for you. My first dog, a bullmastiff, got the same cancer as Penny (osteosarcoma) and she had a lung met for quite a long time. She died after a little more than a year after her leg was operated, but it was for a total other reason, so I don't know how long she had lived otherwise. Anyway she had no symptoms from the lung met, so I hope you can be positive and hopefully Wookie will have a lot of great time left with you. You will be in our thoughts!/Gunilla, Penny and Wilbur

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5 September 2012 - 4:55 pm
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Well, crap.

You get to take some time to vent and be down- it's normal I think.  Maggie didn't have lung mets- she had mast cell cancer.  We had some setbacks but for the most part she beat it.  So when I got the call from my vet about the second cancer I was devastated- I cried in the parking lot at work. I had really thought that cancer wasn't going to take her from me.  Maybe not the same as the lung met diagnosis- but I do understand a little bit how you feel.

Just don't take too much time away from Wookie right now.  I always preach that you have to be optimistic until there is a real reason not to be.  Maggie didn't seem to care so I tried not too.  I was not always successful I will admit, but I tried to follow Mag's lead and kept going and didn't worry about prognosis or calendars.

 

Karen and the pugapalooza

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5 September 2012 - 5:40 pm
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Damn!  I remember feeling completely gutted when we got that news (in some ways I found it harder than the osteosarcoma news).  I'm so sorry.  You are very sensible to be seeing an oncologist because it would be so hard to be objective when you are treating someone you love.

 

There are lots of stories of hope.  Don't give up. But also, don't waste any of the precious time you have with Wookie.  As you already know, cancer is so unpredictable and we can never know who will be the lucky ones to beat the odds and who won't.

 

Make the most of every single day. Live in the moment with him.  Take lots of photos and videos. Allow yourself the time to vent and cry but then try not to dwell on it. There is plenty of time down the track for tears. For now, enjoy each other.

 

Thinking of you

 

Karen and Spirit Magnum

Magnum: 30th May 2002 to 5th May 2012. Lost her back left leg to osteosarcoma on 5th Sep 2011. Lung mets found on 20th Mar 2012 but it was bone mets in the hip that ended her brave battle. Magnum's motto - "Dream as if you'll live for ever, live as if you'll die today" (James Dean). Loyal, loving, courageous and spirited to the end. My beloved heart dog, see her memoirs from Rainbow Bridge ...... http://princess.....pawds.com/

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5 September 2012 - 6:41 pm
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I am so sorry for the news :( hugs & prayers!!!

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5 September 2012 - 7:15 pm
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wookie524 said
I know I'll be a little more accepting with some time.

Yes, you will be.  But news like this is breathtaking and you have a right to be devastated for now.  It takes a bit of time to wrap your mind and your heart around it.  I am so sorry that you are facing this so soon.

I know that statistics exist for a reason and they are immensely helpful in giving us some general idea of what to expect.  But, try to remember that the statistics are based on select groups of dogs that happened to be in a study.  Think of all the dogs in the world with cancer whose cases aren't scrutinized or chronicled - there may be one hell of a variance that we don't even know about.

As others have said, many pups have done very well even with mets, including our Zeus who had a lung met at the time of diagnosis.  Don't be discouraged that the met has appeared even during chemo.  Zeus's met was initially spotted on a CT scan at diagnosis and was small enough that it would not have shown on x-rays.  By the time of his second chemo we did follow-up x-rays and it had grown enough to show up.  If we had initially opted for x-rays instead of CT, then we would have thought that his lungs were clear and the appearance of the met would have been a surprise to us.  Although it did have that initial growth spurt, it never really grew anymore and it never multiplied.  So, there is hope.

Thinking of you and Wookie.  Go off somewhere and have a good cry.  Or a good screaming spell if that's more your style.  Then find Wookie, give him a big old hug and promise him you won't waste one single moment.

Lisa

Zeus was a Husky mix diagnosed with Osteosarcoma at age 11.  A visible lung met and suspicious spot on his liver meant a poor prognosis-six weeks was our vet's best guess. We decided to fight for our boy and his right front leg was amputated on 12/1/11. We did six rounds of chemo, changed his diet and spoiled him completely rotten. We were blessed with 10 great months after diagnosis. Against the odds, the lung met remained a single met and grew very little over those months. A wonderful furbaby with the most gentle spirit, he fought with a strength that we never imagined he possessed. We have no regrets...
http://zeuspod......pawds.com/

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5 September 2012 - 10:16 pm
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I'm so sorry to hear about Wookie's lung met. You have every right to feel devastated. The news sucks. There's no other way to put it.

But as others have said, there can still be LOTS of amazing times ahead for you and Wookie. Our Abby had a single lung met for a long time, and lived over year after that first met was found. And it was amazing. And wonderful and we had an unforgettable year together.

I know it's so hard to not worry and feel like it's the "beginning of the end" but that is really such a waste of your time and energy - time and energy that you could instead put into spending wonderful times with Wookie.

Hang in there. We're pulling for Wookie.
Jackie, Angel Abby's mom

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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6 September 2012 - 2:17 pm
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Thanks for all the support and kind words, everyone!

The pity party is officially over. I cried over him because I fear losing him and I fear that he'll suffer. But he's the happiest dog on earth right now, so no more tears.

I talked to the oncologist and he said he has seen lung mets resolve with chemo. I know it doesn't happen often, but it gives me a little ray of hope to cling on to. He gets his next chemo next weekend, so I'll talk to him about maybe bumping Wookie's dose up, since he's had virtually no side effects from the chemo. He loves his treatments, lol.

I had 3 radiologists look at his rads, just hoping that one of them would come up with a different diagnosis. Sometimes I'm a fan of denial, lol.

Anyway, Wookie is currently lounging on the couch and we're waiting for it to cool down a bit so he can go and spread his joy all over the dog park!

Right hind limb amputated 7/3/12 for OSA, started on alternating cycles of Carboplatin and Doxorubicin and oral Palladia. Single lung met 9/1. Met in the neck muscle removed 9/30. Large mass in sublumbar lymph node 10/2. Rescue chemo with ifosfamide 10/6. Mets to the rib and axillary lymph node 10/21. Started Leukeran and Pred 10/25. Wookie left this Earth for a far better place on 12/4/12. I miss you, Boo, you were my heart.

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6 September 2012 - 7:31 pm
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Well done on the rally - it's so hard! As others all said, Wookie doesn't know he has mets so go with it - hopefully it stays a lone met - none of us know what the mets will do so focus on today - one met is no problem - and worry about more mets when/if it happens! We'll be rooting for that met staying lonely for a long, long time! Xoxo Sue

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7 September 2012 - 9:37 am
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Glad to hear you have rallied. I know of two dogs that overcame their mets - at least for a long time. One dog I saw the xrays myself as the pup was treated by my onc. He had multiple small mets and the Palladia knocked them out. (Unfortunately our Abby couldn't handle the Palladia.)

My onc. told me if we could keep Abby's lone met a loner for a year and keep it at a "stable" size (determined by how slow it was growing) she could have surgery to have it removed. Unfortunately a 2nd met moved in about 6 months in. But I do know of a dog that did successfully have the surgery and lived years after that! So there is still hope. Like you said - it doesn't happen often, but I think it's good to have hope. For me, having hope really helped along the way on the journey.

Keep us posted on how Wookie's doing!
Jackie

Abby: Aug 1, 2009 – Jan 10, 2012. Our beautiful rescue pup lived LARGE with osteosarcoma for 15 months – half her way-too-short life. I think our "halflistic" approach (mixing traditional meds + supplements) helped her thrive. (PM me for details. I'm happy to help.) She had lung mets for over a year. They took her from us in the end, but they cannot take her spirit! She will live forever in our hearts. She loved the beach and giving kisses and going to In-N-Out for a Flying Dutchman. Tripawds blog, and a more detailed blog here. Please also check out my novel, What the Dog Ate. Now also in paperback! Purchase it at Amazon via Tripawds and help support Tripawds!

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