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28 March 2014 - 5:37 pm
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I'm looking for help.  Bailey had her second round of chemo yesterday.  She didn't sleep last night and today she doesn't want to eat, I gave her the anti-nausea med she slept all afternoon, when she finally woke up she was soaked with urine again. I called the vet and they said this is Bailey's stress this happened the last time which it did.  She said she would call in Cerenia to my vet... (10.00 a pill, total of 4.) Gave her one she has been trying to throw it up since and she's running 104.2 and she has urine just trickling out of her to where I have to keep changing hand towels (they are old hotel towels, trying to calm down.)  So now what do I do... the after hour doctors are horrible they sub Q then basically send you on your way that's what happened last time. 

 

This was her second dose of Carboplatin and she reduced the dosage because her blood results last week were 1260(so they couldn't do chemo), yesterday prior to chemo they were 4400 so they went forth with a lower dosage.  I'm not sure if this is normal or if anyone else has experienced these symptoms but I'm concerned that it's more than stress. But they seem to push me off like it's just stress.  She has laid on her side all day.  I didn't realize she was soaked until she woke up and I had my daughter help me get her up.  Now I'm watching her like a hawk and changing towels.  I feel so bad.

 

She's a great dane female and she weighs 126

 

 

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28 March 2014 - 5:59 pm
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Oh no!  Scary and upsetting stuff here.

I'm going to try to take comfort in the fact that Bailey has gotten this way before.  How long did it last before?  Does she seem worried or bothered that shes peeing herself?

Oh the image!  Poor thing.  Poor you!

I presume her urine is normal?  Not overly smelly, cloudy, or bloody?

Besides that, I can't help.  Jackson didn't have these problems with chemo.

Keep us updated!  Poor Bailey.  I think she'll get through it.  She will!  But if things get worse, get her in tomorrow.  A fever means infection and you DON'T want that with chemo having just been administered...!

~ Katy & Jackson

ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12.  Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ!  No side effects.  We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments.  He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors!  Our love. Our funny little guy!

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28 March 2014 - 6:23 pm
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Poor Bailey! I don't have any experience with IV chemo but just wanted to throw in there that when my pup had incontinence issues, we placed puppy pads under him and it was much easier to clean up (and kept him/his bed dryer). Come to think of it, you could probably lay an open diaper under her or even a maxi pad (if its just a trickle). That way its absorbing the wetness and her skin won't get raw from the moisture.

I wish I could be of more help, but sending lots of love and hugs your way!

Mom to Tripawd Angels Jake (2001-2014) and Rosco (2012-2015) and Tripawd Tanner. “Whatever happens tomorrow, we had today; and I'll always remember it”  

      

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28 March 2014 - 6:41 pm
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Hmmm... they didn't send you home with the cerenia? Shelby always gets a box to take home. I can't say I have had any experience with this either but like Katy - there is a comfort in knowing she went through this before and knowing that she comes out of it! Chemo is hard. I wouldn't worry about not eating too much right now but I would worry about that fever and call the vet to figure that out! 

 

It does sound like more than stress so I would stay on top of the vets! Sorry to hear this!!!

 

Hang in there! I know it's scary.

Alison & Shelby 

Shelby Lynne; Jack Russell/Shiba Inu mix. Proud member of the April Angels of 2014.

October 15, 2000 to April 8, 2014

Our story: Broke rear leg in June 2013 - non-conclusive results for cancer so leg was plated and pinned. Enlarged spleen in September 2013 and had it removed and was diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and started chemotherapy. Became a Tripawd January 8th, 2014 and definitive Hemangiosarcoma diagnosis. Three major surgeries in 7 months and Shelby took them all like a champ only to lose her battle to cancer in her brain. We had 8 amazing extra months together and no regrets. #shelbystrong #loveofmylife

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28 March 2014 - 7:40 pm
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This actually happened to me Jill. She woke up soaked in her own urine. She didn't have the problems sleeping though. Jill also had to havee chemo delayed due to white blood cells /neutrophils being low. Her oncologist highly suspected a UTI since her immune system was compromised. She was given antibiotics and was fine a few days later. I would see if you can bring him to have his urine tested. Hope this helps!

Jill is a 9-year-old tuxedo kitty. She was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma in June 2012 on her toe in her right hind leg. Her leg was amputated on 12/12/12 and she completed four rounds of chemo (2 of Carbo, 2 of Doxy) in April 2013. "Like" Jill's facebook page: https://www.fac.....tty?ref=hl Proud member of the WINTER WARRIORS!!!! Her blog can be read at http://jillsjou.....ipawds.com. xoxo

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28 March 2014 - 8:48 pm
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ugh! I kow this is so distressing.....and ALWAYS on a week-end!!

Can you get her to another vet Saturday for a secnd onion and a check-over?? I fnd it hard to believe it's "stress" related too I wold definitely tryto get her to someone tomorrow. The temperature does need to be addressed quicky. I would also make sure I got a fresh urine samp,e when took her in

I don't think not eating right now is anything to be concerned about.

If yoj do have to go back to the same place, jist let them know yo want a thorough check-up and to not dismiss yo with the "stress" answer! The peeing "could" be stress, as that's what Jill Kitty dis...but not the temperature.

I've forfotten the bpwbc count range, but I assume they thought it was inthe "normal" range or they wouldn't have given it to her.

I kow I'm not offerng any real help right now. I think the nausea and ot eating willpass...Iould definitey check for infection of so e sort. Did she develop a temperature with the first chemo or just the peeing?

Another suggestion to give you some reassurance AND insight......you might want to post rhis u der "Ask A Vet".

If you can, give us a other update toight. We are all here foryou. Bailey will be fine.....she's a ough cookie...and a good looking one at that!!

Sendingnyou calm and lots of hugs!!

Sally and Happy Hannah

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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29 March 2014 - 7:35 am
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Alot of issues to be addressed.

First, don't stress about the delayed chemo.  Some dogs are just more sensitive to it.  Our Zeus's second and third Carboplatin treatments had to be postponed b/c of low counts.  After the second set of low counts, our vet just changed him to a five week schedule and reduced the dosage.  That seemed to do the trick.  Vet told us that the low counts meant the chemo is doing it's job and that the reduced dosage/longer time between treatments shouldn't make a real difference in the effectiveness overall.

Second, Zeus also had an upset stomach and some poop issues after the first treatment.  Our vet began giving him a Cerenia injection at the same time as the chemo treatment and worked wonders.  He never again struggled with being sick.  He would get very very lethargic immediately (and I mean immediately after the treatment - not the two days after as all of the research says) and that would last though the day after treatment, then he would feel better.

I cannot speak to the urinating issue.  But, I can tell you this: it is not normal, which means something is wrong.  To "assume" it is stress is not a very clinical approach.  Most vets would go the route of testing to eliminate all physical causes before shrugging it off as emotional/stress related.  You must remember that you are Bailey's advocate in this.  You know your dog better than anyone, and if you truly believe that this is not normal, then you should tell the vet and insist on resolution.  You can do it in a diplomatic way, but still get Bailey the treatment she needs.  If the vet just refuses to take your concerns seriously then maybe you should find someone else.

Last, I agree with the others about fever concern.  Stress does NOT cause a fever that high.  Something else is going on.  Zeus at one point got VERY lethargic and spiked a fever of 104.9 and I took him immediately to the vet.  Turns out he had pneumonia.  Because we caught it so early, he was given antibiotics and allowed to come home to recover instead of having to be admitted to the hospital.

Take a deep breath, calm down, and make a plan.  If you don't like the ER vets in your area, then find another one even if it is two hours away.  It's a one-time trip for an emergency.  After paying thousands of dollars and investing so much time into this amp and chemo, one road trip is not all that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.  Maybe she will recover without the vet trip, but if she doesn't improve then do what you have to do to get her better.

BEST of luck to you with the rest of treatments!

Lisa

Zeus was a Husky mix diagnosed with Osteosarcoma at age 11.  A visible lung met and suspicious spot on his liver meant a poor prognosis-six weeks was our vet's best guess. We decided to fight for our boy and his right front leg was amputated on 12/1/11. We did six rounds of chemo, changed his diet and spoiled him completely rotten. We were blessed with 10 great months after diagnosis. Against the odds, the lung met remained a single met and grew very little over those months. A wonderful furbaby with the most gentle spirit, he fought with a strength that we never imagined he possessed. We have no regrets...
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30 March 2014 - 6:36 am
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High temperature can be a sign of infection.  When Frodo was on lumostine chemo the dose was a bit high for the first two rounds. The temperature spiked on day 7 and went up within a half hour time frame and I had to race him off to get intravenous antibiotics to get it down quickly.  After those two sessions there was no more problems

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16 April 2014 - 5:42 pm
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Hey - so how's your girl?  What's happening?  We haven't heard from you in a while and I hope things are OK!

~ Katy & Jackson

ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12.  Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ!  No side effects.  We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments.  He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors!  Our love. Our funny little guy!

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16 April 2014 - 8:14 pm
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Ditto. Please update when you can, we always hope that no news is good news!

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17 April 2014 - 12:01 am
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I know that I'm super late to the game here, and I have nothing to add for the chemo troubles because I have no experience with that; but I do have a little pee-pad tip. Sorry if you have already heard it.

Belly bands work great for male dogs, but don't work for female dogs for obvious reasons. Instead, take a pair of men's or boy's underwear, depending on the size of your dog, put a maxi pad (or Tena pad) in the crotch of the undies, and put them on your dog so that the hole that normally goes in front is where your dog's tail can now stick out. Breeders use this trick for female dogs in heat, but you can also use it for incontinence issues. Just be sure to change the pad frequently and to keep your dog's hind end clean with waterless shampoo or grooming wipes!

Right rear leg amp due to injury from unknown cause (but don't tell her she's missing her spare...yes HER!)

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