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Front leg amputation recovery advice - 7 days in
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8 February 2021 - 12:03 pm
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Hello, 

I am new to tripawds. First, let me tell you our story as it is unique. Our fox red lab, Titan, began to limp a little over two years ago. My husband and I thought he just tweaked something at first, but when it didn't go away after 5 days, we took him to our local vet. We noticed a bulge in his elbow so at the worst, we were thinking maybe arthritis as he was 7 at the time. 

It was to our devastation that after x-rays, our local vet came out and said she was 99% sure it was osteosarcoma and that our best course of action was to amputate immediately and begin chemotherapy but at the most, we should expect 3-6 months of life. Needless to say we were heartbroken. I wanted to rush to amputate quickly to give as much time as possible but luckily, my husband is less prone to panic. We made an appointment at our local universities veterinary hospital with an oncologist for a week later.

Now really expecting the worse, we got the craziest news. The oncologist didn't think it was cancer at all! They had never seen anything like what they were seeing on his elbow before, but it was not presenting like typical osteosarcoma. The good bone was all intact and not deteriorating and the orthopedic surgeon thought perhaps a microfracture had healed wrong at some point. We left the vet that day with with a plan to manage the pain of the elbow through pain medicine and to come back in 3 months for xrays. We were so relieved! 

Over the course of about a year, we managed with pain medicine and Titan did incredibly well. He was able to walk, run, play with no difference. He would get xrays every 3 months to monitor growth in his elbow and lungs. There were some small blimps on the radar in his lungs but the vet at the time, while not being sure, thought/hoped they were just non-cancerous lesions. We considered doing biopsy's on both earlier on but didnt want to do anything to invasive while he was doing so well. Finally, a year in, the lung lesions while growing super slowly, were growing, and for peace of mind, we decided to do the biopsy. It was through that, the vet confirmed it was cancer. 

The vet team at the university hospital was still pretty perplexed. It is a research university so they ended up consulting with other research hospitals and found a very rare specialist in Texas (we are in Ohio), who diagnosed him with parosteal osteosarcoma. It is a very rare and not well studied sub form of osteosarcoma. Where are lucky, is that this form of the cancer is much slower growing and therefore life expectancies are longer. (P.S. - Ohio State University is now writing a study and paper centered around this form of canine cancer with Titan the star of the show. It has been pretty cool and they have done a great job of taking us along the journey of the study, the other universities who have partnered and the help it will provide to other animals with this diagnosis). 

Because of the diagnosis, we moved forward with high dose radiation on the elbow, followed by low dose chemo which Titan is still on today, but continued to save the leg as he was managing just fine. 

Now, another year later, his limping returned and worse than ever. Pain medicine was no longer managing it and his elbow was noticeably bigger where the bone cancer formed. He went in for his routine visit 2-3 weeks ago and upon x-rays, the bad bone was not forming into and deteriorating the good bone. It was time for amputation, to give him the best quality of life, for what we hope is still good amount of time we have. (He is now 9.)

I was really hoping he would be one of those dogs who rebounded so quick, but this week has seemed to be a tougher go. Physically, i think he is healing just fine. I think it is more mental. He really struggles to get comfortable. He refuses to lay on the amputated side at all and fights off laying down, so sleeps standing up or sitting in a very hunched position. His head will fall as he hits the official sleep and then he will pop back up to fight it off. Walking wise, he seems to tense every muscle. He has fits of panting and trembling. We have already messaged the vet who said this is just normal recovery. For the record, we don't think it is his medicine because he was on both carprofen and gabapentin to manage his elbow pain months to a year before this and he is acting like this with or without the trazadone. Yesterday, we had a real scare when he began trembling and started to walk like he was dizzy, almost completely falling over. He was doing the same thing while sitting. If he wasn't leaning in to something, he would just let his whole body fall. 

Has anyone experienced a tougher mental recovery? Any tips? Everything I read says the first couple of weeks are the worst. I am really hoping that is the truth. We haven't let Titan out of our eyesight, including sleeping on the couch in our living room at night to not leave him alone. His anxiety is making mine through the roof. I hate to see him like this. 

Sorry for the long post and appreciate any tips/advice in advance!

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8 February 2021 - 2:10 pm
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Have you mentioned the dizziness to the vet? Vestibular disease (vertigo) is very common in older dogs. Benign but scary, especially for a dog just learning to deal with new mobility. Might be worth a mention to the vet as it could be unrelated to the surgery or meds.

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8 February 2021 - 2:55 pm
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We did. We even recorded him and sent a video to the vet, but he didn't seem overly concerned. He recommended we cut back on gabapentin from 3x a day to 2x a day because it can cause muscle weakness and he attributed the falling over to that. 

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Hi and welcome. I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I've never heard of that form of osteosarcoma so thank you for educating us on it. When the paper is published we would love to see it.

Meanwhile, one week in is not a long time, and while patience is a must it is also so critical to look for and address pain signals , of which trembling is a pretty common one.

Smart move to video his behavior! Can we see it? Upload to YouTube and share the URL here. We aren't vets but we've seen a lot of weird things here and might be able to share our experiences better by seeing what he's doing.

Did the university do the amputation? What pain control did he come home with? And what is the Gabapentin dosage he is taking? 

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8 February 2021 - 5:48 pm
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Just to chime in Brownie was almost 12 at time of amputation. Physically he was fine, but it did take about three weeks for Brownie to get his personality back. Brownie was a choc lab. I have never seen a fox red lab. Would love to see a pic.

Sending positive thoughts for a speedy recovery.

My Beautiful Beloved Brownie was diagnosed with Osteosarcoma on February 26, 2019.  With all odds against him he lived an additional one year and eight days with amputation, love, and prayer.  I was honored to be his mom, and I have never been so proud!  He will live forever in my Heart!

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8 February 2021 - 7:43 pm
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Thanks for weighing in. It is tough, because everyday seems to be a new thing or new regression. He was eating just fine and then today, was refusing treats. He walks incredibly slow and with a hunched back and his head/neck low.  It is kind of hard to explain. The hardest part is his refusal to lay down and fighting off a sleep. Eventually, he will succumb to it and the trazadone that we have newly implemented seems to knock him out for a few hours but otherwise, he seems to be in either physical pain or an anxious wreck. It sounds like it could have been wishful thinking as I thought a week in, we would be better progressing. 

One thing that seems odd is he seems to be having gas. His stomach will gurgle at times and he lets out gas. But he is going to the bathroom just fine and has been eating his meals regularly (despite his refusal of treats all of a sudden). 

We go back to the doctor on Monday the 15th to have his stitches removed so I am at least glad there is a follow up should we be in the same situation two weeks in. 

I am still learning how to navigate this site - I will upload any picture and videos as I learn how to do so! 

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8 February 2021 - 10:10 pm
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Sorry you find yourself here, but hopefully  we can help you navigate  through the recovery.

Sorry for. more questions,  but prior to surgery, other than the limp and obvious pain from the elbow/leg, he was doi g okau?  Sleep, eating, drinking, alert, engaged? 

When he first came home from surgery with good hospital meds in him, did he seem a little "better"than he does now?

How much does Titan weigh ?  How many milligrams of Gaba is he taking?  

Seven days after. MAJOR surgery while adjusting to three is still very early in recovery.  The first two weeks should be just short, leashed potty breaks and back to bed for rest.

Has Titan done any activity at all, or overdone it at all that could cause  muscle strain?

Just  to clarify, he does have lung mets?? 

And you said he is currently  on some form of chemo, right?.  Could that be causing  lack of appetite  and tummy issues?

So much of what you are describing definitely  sounfs like pain signals .  Actually, it all sounds  like pain related, except for the tummy issues and the dizziness.   The dizziness  may be related to the Trazedone.  

To be clear, we aren't  Vets and not giving  Vet advice.  And as you already noted, the type of cancer Titan has is rare and not much is known about it.  But as far as a "regular"  recovery and "regular" pain signs, Titan appears to be in pain.  It may be that he's developed a resistance to the Gaba and it's not effective  enough to handle the pain of MAJOR surgery.

Ask about Amantadine and Tramadol.. 

Another thing that comes to. mi d is a really bad muscle strain or disc/spine issue.  A recovering  tripawd can tweak a.muscle or back soooo easily.

Try massaging up and down his spine, all around the neck and shoulder  area.  Any sign of tension  anywhere?  Continue giving  massages, especially over a warm towel out of the dryer.  Titan will .love it.

The hunched up back, head held .low, could certainly indicate  a back / neck issue.

Again, we aren't  Vets and not familiar with Titan's unique situation. but it does seem like pain management   is crucial and needs to be addressed asap and before next Monday.  Not sure about the tummy issues, but certainly worth mentioning to the Onco. 

The extreme dizziness  and falling over needs to be addressed too.  Don't  recall where Gabapentin  has ever caused that extreme behavior,, ut that doesn't mean anything!

All of this is in  the FWIW column, okay?  Just thro stuff out there.

P,ease stay co8 and let us know how things are going

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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8 February 2021 - 10:23 pm
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I wouldn't wait until Monday for that appointment, please let your vet know asap and see if they can squeeze him in this week OK? Everything you are describing sounds like some kind of painful situation. Pain will delay recovery so the sooner it's addressed the sooner he'll get his sparkle back. Keep us posted.

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Thanks again everyone. My husband called the surgeon who performed his surgery directly today and we are waiting on a call back.

To answer some of your questions - prior to the surgery he seemed to be doing really well, aside from the limping. He was eating, sleeping, going to the bathroom all just fine. He was engaged but of course because of his elbow, he wasn't jumping up and down with excitement all of the time, but he has always been a pretty chill boy. 

He has really struggled since first coming home from surgery, although the refusal to take treats and the loss of appetite are new, because even on day one he came home he seemed food motivated. He has been mostly taking it easy but because he won't settle in, he awkwardly stands or sits at times, which I think could be causing muscle soreness. He hasn't been able to take any medicine this morning, because he is completely refusing the bread and treats we usually put them in. We have tried bread, bananas, peanut butter - he keeps moving his head away from us when we try and give it to him. 

He is taking 300mg of gabapentin 3x a day and 1/2 tablet of 100mg of carprofen a day. We have 150mg of trazadone we can give him up to 3x a day. We haven't been as consistent with the trazadone because it has its trade offs. While it usually helps for him to get sleep, he comes out of it scared and disoriented.  

He does have lesions in his lungs, yes. But they have been slow growing over the past year, year and a half. And yes, he is also on chemo, which he has been on for the past 6 months or so. It is low dose and he takes it every night. The oncologist and surgeon did not advise us to stop the chemo while he recovers. It has never caused him lack of appetite before so I am unsure why it would cause it now. 

I will have my husband ask about the other pain meds you mentioned. I am hoping they can help give us some answers or allow us to come back in to have him examined. Thanks for the tips on massages - i definitely see signs of tension. 

Thank you all! 

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9 February 2021 - 8:19 am
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Thanks for taking time to give such a detailed  update.  W1e learn from every recovery, thus, hopefully, we can add insight and wisdom into every recovery quesrion as they unfold.

To me, the bottom line of uojr post, may, I deed, be the "bottom li e" of what's going on.  If he displayed  te soun during   the massages that could certainly  indicate a  miscle strain, back, disc  issue, etc.

Hoping the Surgeon or any Vet  will see him today!  Advocate strongly for it!!.

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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9 February 2021 - 11:49 am
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Aww poor guy, it sounds like things have gotten harder, I'm so sorry. I hope the vet gets you in today, glad you called. We are thinking of you and Titan, keep us posted. sp_hearticon2

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Thanks for the kind words. After talking with his surgeon, we brought him in to be examined and we are glad we did. Titan is having severe neck pain, which was visible through their observation and exam. They believe that 1.) he either herniated a disc or worst case scenario 2.) his cancer has metastasized to his vertebrae. 

They are keeping him overnight where he is getting the best pain meds he can get and tomorrow he will have an MRI to hopefully give us an official diagnosis. 

It has been an emotional rollercoaster of a day. 

Appreciate everyone's advice, making it clear we needed to get him into the vet, which i am glad we did. 

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Sooo glad you got him jn! 

Quite often we see disc issues with "newbie tripawds", so this isn't too much of a surprise.  ,May  require hard core rest and some steroid type therapy.   When you me tio ed the tenseness  when massaging, that was a clue.

Try and get some much needed rest ronight.  Titan is in good hands and will be enjoying  his good pain meds.

We'll look for your update tomorrow..  Time for Titan  to get off this roller coaster!

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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9 February 2021 - 10:22 pm
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I'm glad too. Sounds like a great clinic if they are capable of doing the MRI to diagnose, that's awesome. I'm sure his pain meds are so good he's seeing pink elephants tonight! Try not to think the worst and we will keep sending lots of Tripawd power and healing wishes to Titan. Keep us posted.

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Our bulldog had her amputation almost 4 weeks ago now. The first two weeks were crazy tough because we struggled to get her phantom limb pain under control. The pain was the phantom limb pain. The Gabapentin wasn't enough. At week 2, the Dr. added Amantadine. It was a lifesaver! Within 24 hours, she was bright-eyed and anticipating food and walking around. You could always ask about adding a second med. They ween them off of them after a bit. So we're hoping all stays well. Best wishes. It's harder for some doggos and their humans than others!

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