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Introducing Dino; seeking advice on putting your life on hold for amputation and chemo; experience for large breeds
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Summary: our 5.5 year old mastiff mix was recently diagnosed with osteosarcoma in his rear right leg. His leg will be amputated in three days, then he will start chemotherapy two weeks after that. 

 

Hello everyone,

I hope I have posted this in the right place -- I bolded a couple of questions below, but only two of them really pertain to large dogs. I wanted to share our story and see if anyone had any general advice or stories to share.

This is long, but it has been helpful/theraputic to write everything out, and makes me feel confident about our choices. Our oncologist suggested we check out the Tripawd community, and I have been exploring the forums over the last two days. I wanted to make my own post to say hello, hear from others, and get my thoughts down. And of course to tell the world about our wonderful boy.

My partner and I have a five and a half year old mastiff/hound mix named Dino (current weight 44.5 kg/98 lbs). He is the light of our lives and the best adventuring partner. He is a gorgeous dog and gets compliments everywhere we go. 

Five days ago we took Dino in for an x-ray thinking he had a torn ligament in his knee. Unfortunately our vet found it was actually a tumour that was causing his leg pain. A whirlwind 48 hours later and around 9 hours total in the car driving to a vet hospital in the Toronto area twice, we had a CT scan and had spoken to a very kind oncologist and her team who diagnosed Dino with osteosarcoma.

Fortunately, the CT scan indicated that the cancer hasn’t spread (at least not in a detectable amount) and the oncologist presented us with options for palliative care or amputation and chemotherapy. She said because of Dino’s otherwise good health, his strong heart, and happy, life-loving nature, he is a good candidate for amputation. She said that the life expectancy following amputation and chemo is about 12 months, at which point the cancer will spread and then we would need to seek end of life care.

I asked about Dino’s size, and unlike some of the other stories I have seen in these forums, the oncologist was very optimistic about Dino and his ability to adapt to life on three legs. She explained that most dogs are standing within a day or two of the surgery, and the recovery time is amazingly only about 2 weeks. I had no idea it was so fast (question for the big tripawd parents: does this timeline match your experience?). The oncologist explained how she saw that his spine was healthy in the CT scan, that he had a strong heart, and strong muscles in his other legs (there is some atrophy in the leg with the tumour from disuse recently). She was very pleased with his blood work and his weight.

Dino is on pain medication (gabapentin) to help manage the pain caused by the tumour, and he is holding his leg up a lot. He is quickly perfecting our stairs on three legs (fortunately the stairs are carpeted). So I think once he has adjusted to the leg-weight being gone, he’ll probably get around just fine. Right now we are being careful because of how fragile the bone is, but he is in good spirits and wants to chase the squirrels in our yard very badly (we’ve got him on the leash outside to avoid accidents).

I am anticipating reading the posts, blogs, and other information on Tripawds carefully in the coming days to learn how we can best help Dino to adapt and keep him safe and healthy, and I would love to hear how you helped your big dog adjust and stay safe. I am sad to know our longest hikes are behind us, but happy that our best hikes may still be in the future (just much shorter distances). We are planning to temporarily move our bed and home office to the first floor of our home so Dino doesn’t feel like he has to go up the stairs.

We were planning a cross-country move later this year, and we were planning to get married next year. Both of these things will have to be delayed to reallocate funds to Dino’s surgery and chemotherapy. As well, we can’t be moving him and disrupting his routine part way through treatment. We’ve also cancelled a vacation we were going to go on next week. I am sure we’re not the only people who have had to delay big life plans for our pets' healthcare. If you’ve experienced something similar, I am interested in knowing how you coped. But ultimately, the move can happen later, a wedding can happen later, and there will be other vacations. And hopefully, Dino will come along with us on those vacations. Maybe he could even be at a smaller marriage ceremony before a later reception.

Our next 15 weeks or so will involve commuting to the greater Toronto area every 2 weeks or so, about 2.5 hours each way. So if you have any audiobook recommendations, please share those too. 

 

It has been a surreal 5 days, but Dino is in good spirits and we feel good about our choice to pursue amputation and chemo. We want to give Dino his best chance to continue living his best life. We are very grateful to our local vet who broke the news to gently, and immediately worked on getting us in touch with an oncologist and advocating for us. We are so grateful that the oncology department got us in the very next day for consultation, and the day right after that for a CT scan. We are grateful to both the local and oncology teams who took such good care of Dino while he had to be put under twice in one week for his x-rays and CT scan. We are so grateful for the oncologist who believes in Dino, and has been so kind and patient with us as we make these hard decisions. And of course we are grateful to all of our friends, family, and coworkers who have been so supportive these last five days, and who we know will continue to help us out in the future.

Dino loves hiking and following animal trails. He loves to eat fresh grass shoots in the spring after the snow melts. He thinks the cardboard tube from a paper towel roll is better than any store-bought toy. He loves to hunt bugs and he crosses his front feet when he lays down. He is a shy, quiet boy who loves pats and cuddles on the couch. He is certain that he is a lap dog, despite his size. We love him more than anything and want to give him the world.

We love our Dino “Thunderpaws” and we are going to do everything we can to ensure his remaining months are comfortable, engaging, and enriching.

 

Photos of Dino:

Introducing Dino, the hound/mastiff mix

 

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30 June 2024 - 6:14 pm
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Greetings to very handsome Dino and his hoomans!!!

I want to apologize right off the bat for this short and fast  reply, but I wanted to get your post approved quickly.  Others will chime in  and I also will be back with more detailed a  answers. 

My "fluffy" 125 lb plus  Bull Mastiff, Happy Hannah, had a rear leg amput and thrived and lived life to the fullest for over one year and two months.  She had four rounds of Carboplatin  (generally the recommended).  Off the top of my head I recall a Lab  named Brownie  who thrived on three with no chemo for two years!!

We've had many LARGE dogs up to 170 -200 lbs do well on three 

Sounds like Dino is an EXCELLENT  candidate  and will thoroughly enjoy livng a pain free quality life on three.  If he is already holding his leg up from pain, removing that bum leg would be exactly what he would want!!

Also want to quickly add that your devotion to Dino and your commitment to giving him the best life ever is a beautiful thing to observe.

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

PS.  So in love with Dino from his picture!  More please!!!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Thank you so much for your kind words. Your reply brought happy tears to my eyes. Thank you for sharing - Happy Hannah sounds like she was a wonderful dog. 

There are 15 photos in the linked Imgur album, but I see the preview image ate the URL. Dino album here. I have some others I want to find and share, so I will add more Dino pics to this thread soon, as well as updates about his surgery on Wednesday.

-Megan

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30 June 2024 - 9:27 pm
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Hello and welcome.

Dino is a very handsome boy!

I've had two rear amp Tripawds but together they would weigh just over 30 pounds smiley4.

My first Tri was a Pug named Maggie who lost her rear leg to mast cell cancer.  I actually had a two week vacation planned when we got the diagnosis.  My vacation turned into a two week Tripawd caregiver 'staycation'.  Mag had a very poor prognosis post amp but she beat the odds and lived almost 4 more years, it does happen.  I never did go on the trip I had planned, I'm not sure why.  I did go on vacations after her amp though.

One thing to throw out about your wedding- I have a couple friends who were to get married when covid hit.  They waited a year but still couldn't have the big wedding they wanted, but they didn't want to wait.  They got married in a small ceremony and they when it was again possible they had a HUGE reception/party with all their friends and family.

Your cardboard tube comment made me chuckle!!!  My current rear amp Tri is a little Pug mix who lost her leg at 7 months old to a car accident. When Elly was younger (she is 9.5 years old now) she loved, loved, loved cardboard tubes!  Somewhere I have a picture of her ripping up a tube with an untouched bully stick next to her smiley4.

Try not to focus to much on what you think Dino will lose, I spent a lot of time mourning the things Maggie couldn't do anymore and I was hyper focused on her 6 to 9 month prognosis.  Meanwhile Maggie was getting on with her life, figuring out how to do what she wanted, and just being the obstinate Pug she had always been.  I was so fortunate that she outlived her prognosis and I was finally able to realize that my dog was still my dog.

Once things settle down you can look into alternative activities. I take a stroller on every walk so Elly can come along even when we do 3 miles at the lake. They do make big dog strollers .  We also do lots of food puzzles and games, trick and obedience training and strength and balance exercises.  Elly does the sport of Nose Work, an excellent game for Tripawds.

You guys sound like you are in as good a place as you can be facing this new journey.  Having a support system is wonderful and so comforting and we are here to help any way we can.

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls and Boy

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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Hi Megan, welcome! Please thank your oncologist for referring you to us. May I ask who you are working with?

Dino is such a sweetie! And yes, he should do fine on three. Just try not to compare his surgery recovery with others. He will be on his own timeline and may take longer than other dogs because of his size, but as an active fit dog he should do well once he is over the recovery ride.

Heres some big dog inspiration for ya:

https://tripawd.....ant-breed/

Also, have you seen our Tripawds What to Expect articles or the Tripawds Recovery Shopping List ? Check those out for some helpful tips.

Many folks here have delayed planned events because of this kind of diagnosis and they came out the other side just fine! You gotta do what you feel is right in your heart and we get it. Dino is lucky to have you.

As for audio books, hoo boy what kind of genres do you enjoy?

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Hi Karen, 

Maggie and Ellie both sound like great dogs, and wow, Maggie is a trooper! So happy to hear you had so many more years with her. 

That is really great advice to not focus on what Dino might lose. I think what he has to gain is at least another amazing year filled with adventure and love. And good advice about the human-life events, too. I think a small ceremony, where Dino can be there too, followed by a big party when the timing is better is a great idea.

Thank you so much for your kind words.

-Megan

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Hi Jerry (or I guess Jerry's pawrent!)

Thanks for sharing those links. There is a lot to take in on this website, and it's helpful to be directed to specific pages. 

Our oncologist is Dr. Gautier at Mississauga Oakville Veterinary Emergency and Specialty Hospital in Ontario, Canada. She and at least one person on her team mentioned Tripawds to me.

As for audiobook genre - I love scifi and fantasy. Recently I also listened to a couple of good autobiographies I enjoyed too. I'm looking for books where the narrator and storyline won't put me to sleep, since this will be a lot of early-morning highway driving. 😉 

-Megan

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Oh wow you are in such great hands at that clinic! I know it well and they are top-notch. It makes me so hoppy that they referred you, it's such an honor.

Fantasy and sci-fi books eh? Those genres are totally out of my wheelhouse (I've been listening to nothing but Alaska-centric books lately as that's where we've been living for the past year). But @Admin here (my better half, Jim) says that Ready Player One was great, and Brave New World are excellent choices for audio books. Let us know if you like them!

-Rene (@Jerry's mom)

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Hi everyone, I just wanted to let you know that Dino's surgery went well. The surgeon called me to say that everything went routinely and that he was waking up from anesthesia. He will stay at the hospital overnight and we will pick him up tomorrow. I will send more updates and add some photos of him soon. Thank you all for your well wishes and good vibes. sp_hearticon2

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WOOHOO! Go Dino! You made it!

I'm so happy for this update, thank you for sharing the good news. We'll wait for an update!

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Good news!

Now on to healing and getting on with his new normal.

Keep us posted.

 

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls and Boy

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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APPLAUSE FOR MR DINO!!  Surgery is  done and done well!!!

When you do go to pick him up tomorrow,, don't even bother to look at his incision or draw attention to it. All he wants to see is your happy smiling face and hear you tell him he's a good boy and he's going home!

Let us know  how the homecoming goes.  Recovery  may be a little rough for a few days.   

Quiet and up only for short at least Friday but then back in some more rest. He may be of food a little bit and it may not poop for several days, but drinking water is important as is peeing.

Try and catch up on some sleep tonight! It's exhausting mentally and physically getting to this point in the journey. Dino will be nice and high and good drugs and feeling no pain tonight 👍

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Thank you everyone for your kind words. Dino has been home now for about 24 hours. (link to some pictures below)

When we picked up Dino he was excited to see us and happily ate a meal for us (he wouldn't for the hospital staff). We got a lot of information from the surgery team and they said everything was very routine, Dino was looking good, and everybody fell in love with him during his stay.

After a long pee in the parking lot, we drove about 2 hours home and Dino slept most of the way. He even snored a bit. Once we got home he had a meal and we had a nice evening. We gave him his meds, he enjoyed some kibble, pumpkin, and water all mixed together in the worlds ugliest soup (he loved it), and we went outside a couple of times for pees.

Last night was rough, though. He couldn't get comfortable. But around 2 am I took his cone off for a moment and he got himself some water. I was very pleased with that. Around 4 am we went out for a pee and he layed down in our driveway and wouldn't move. I had to wake my partner to carry Dino back inside, and that was stressful. But this morning at 8 am he happy went outside for a pee, ate his breakfast with great enthusiasm, and had his meds. He's has had a quiet day with a few more pees. No poop yet, but the vet said it could be 3-5 days before that happens (poor guy).

We've been applying a cold pack to the surgery site often and he seems to like it (it is pretty hot here this week, but luckily we have AC). We're going to keep taking it easy and I'll be sure to send more updates here. We're back at the vet to remove the stitches in 2 weeks, and Dino will start chemo around then too.

I think his little stump is kinda cute, in a way. I am excited for when it heals up and the hair grows back. Sometimes it wiggles a bit in his sleep.

We've had an outpouring of support from friends and family, and it has really helped us get through this. 

Some images of Dino, post-surgery: (surgery site visible in some images)

Dino post-surgery

 

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Ohhh Dino, you're melting my heart with every single precious picture of your handsome, adorable self.

everybody fell in love with him during his stay.

Of course everyone fell in love with Dino.....impossible  not to!!

Sounds like recovery  is going really well.   Yes, there might be a bit of roller coaster of ups and downs this early on, but it so ds loke ruem3ds are keep things balanced 

Thanks. so much for the update AND delightful  pictures. Dino knows how to strike the most adorable poses amd cutest facial expressions.   The incision  looks good too👍

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

 

   

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Dino had another rough night. I think with all the drugs he forgets he is missing a leg and he is startled by the cone collar. So about every hour there's a little kerfuffle or he feels the need to get up. I've been "sleeping" (laying on the floor) next to him to help and keep him calm. He doesn't seem to be in pain though, which is good. 

Our two mornings have gone well though! He is excited to go out for a pee and have breakfast (with meds) before sleeping more. We're happy about this. 

And this morning we had a big milestone: Dino pooped! The surgeon warned it could be 3-5 days before he poops, and I also read that on the Tripawds website. So we're pretty happy he was able to on his second morning home. It's a relief for him and for us, in two different ways.

-Megan

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