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The Kodiak-Tigger Saga Continues
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27 April 2009 - 5:07 pm
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Well Hell.

Kodiak is spending the night at the vet's office tonight and Tigger and I are very bummed. Seems Kodiak's arthritis might not be arthritis, but something worse, so they've kept him overnight until the specialist can see him in the morning. Kodiak's 'arthritis' has been slowing him down, but he's been trying. Saturday morning his left right leg swelled up to the size of a baseball bat and stayed swollen all weekend. No signs of insect bites or stings, broken bones, or sprains, so first thing today he went to the only vet in our area that will treat a wolf. They have no idea what it could be and are suspecting cancer. 🙁

Tigger and I are very sad and worried. Understandly Kris hasn't hardly said a word since he told me the news. 🙁 

I fear that at Kodiak's age (13yrs) and his aching joints that an amputation won't be possible. I know, I'm wildly speculating at this point. I don't know what the vet is thinking, but he told Kris that if it is cancer that Kodiak's got two months, and if it's not cancer that he's got less than a year. Why the speculation?

Grrrr. Sigh. We just want our wolf to be okay. When Tigger and I first hopped in here last year I never suspected we'd be joining the cancer crew for Kodiak too.

I hate the waiting game, but then at the same time I don't want to know either. Grrr, grrr, and double guh-rrr. Cry

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27 April 2009 - 5:42 pm
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Oh, I'm sorry Kodiak is not well.  Try not to panic until the specialist can examine him and give you your options.  Hang in there.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
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28 April 2009 - 9:08 am
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Prepare for the worst, hope for the best, and above all try to stay focused on the present. Never regret the past and don't fear the future. Jerry taught us that and i believe Kodiak would agree. Just ask Tigger!

Best wishes for the best possible results from your visit with the specialist. Our thoughts are with you and we look forward to your update.

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28 April 2009 - 10:28 am
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Remember when I said the waiting is the worst? I would like to rephrase that to include vets that don't take an interest in their patients.

The office opened at 9:00 this morning. Kris finally gave them a call around 10:30. They still "hadn't gotten around to checking on Kodiak yet, call back in an hour." I'm still wondering why they didn't notice anything out of the ordinary when he had x-rays three weeks ago, and now I'm wondering if he's had breakfast or even been given his pain pills.

Kris is driving over there now, and in the meantime I've located another vet in a nearby city that doesn't have a problem with having a wolf as a patient if the regular vet wants to continue d*cking around. Finding a vet that will take on a wolf as a patient has rather limited Kodiak's choices, but I called a wildlife refuge this morning to find out which vet they use.

Sorry for venting. It's 12:30 and I still don't know anything. Grrrrr.

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28 April 2009 - 2:26 pm
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Kodiak's biopsy is back and the news isn't good. It's spread through is body and seems to involve the blood vessels. When they took the biopsy sample they almost couldn't get the bleeding to stop. They (the collective of vets at the hospital) said they won't know exactly what type of cancer it is until they get all of the results back, but they've said it's inoperable and he only has a couple of months. We're leaving to go pick him up right now and try to make him as comfortable as possible until we have to make the big decision. I'm thawing out a salmon filet for his dinner.

I imagine it's only going to get ruff-er from here.

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28 April 2009 - 5:42 pm
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I'm very saddened to hear Kodiak's news.  I don't want to promote any false hope, but with the vet change you may get a whole different perspective.  We certainly did when we got a second opinion.  We went from no hope on Monday evening, to being secure on Tuesday evening that at the very least the pain could be stopped and Trouble wouldn't need to live on pain meds.

My thoughts are with you as you face this difficult time.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
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28 April 2009 - 6:07 pm
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Kodiak's been diagnosed with Hemangiosarcoma and they've only given him a few weeks. They've sent him home with Rimadyl and Tramodol. He was elated to see Tigger, but oddly, even though Tigger tried to stand as close to him as possible (they've bonded) she just shook with fear for several minutes until he got settled in. I can only guess that the vet smells on Kodiak reminded her of the four months she spent in a vet clinic after her leg was ripped off by other dogs.

Kodiak got a salmon filet for dinner. Tomorrow he gets to have a steak.

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29 April 2009 - 10:34 am
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Bev,

We are so very sorry to hear this. Our apologies for not replying sooner, we were away from our computers all day yesterday.

There are some things to keep in mind that we hope will help:

Kodiak has the blessed fortune of not knowing what his diagnosis is. While he's aware of the changes in his health, the prognosis the vet gave you for him has no effect on Kodiak's love for life or his pack. He will still go on living each day to the fullest, as best he can, and he will rely on you to do your best too.

We also agree with hugapitbull; a different vet, another opinion can give you a whole new perspective and outlook. While hemangiosarcoma is an agressive disease, there are holistic veterinarians out there who are treating it better than conventional medicine can (which they really don't, as you've now seen), and giving dogs a good quality of life for as long as they can. Where are you located? Do you know of any good holistic vets? We have a directory on our resources page if you need it.

The photo of Tigger and Kodiak is just so touching and beautiful. You're right; dogs can smell the vet's office on other dogs. Hopefully the kids will wrestle and get that smell off Kodiak in no time.

We send our love and prayers to you. We know you are one tough cookie; you have the strength to get through this. And if you need anything, we are here for you.

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29 April 2009 - 10:43 am
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We're in the panhandle of Florida. I haven't yet had the chance to look into holistic vets, but I may do some research tonight after I get home from work.

We've got quite a few people coming over this weekend to visit Kodiak. He's made quite an impression with a lot of people, partly because he's a wolf and partly because he's just a really great guy. Even the UPS driver is going to come visit. How do you like that? LOL.

Well, I gotta get back to the salt mine. Thanks for sticking by us. We need it.

Bev, Tigger, & Kodiak

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29 April 2009 - 10:46 am
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When the UPS driver loves your dog, that's one of the highest compliments in the world.

We are thinking of you. Let us know how we can help.

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29 April 2009 - 1:11 pm
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Pnerissa said:

We're in the panhandle of Florida. I haven't yet had the chance to look into holistic vets, but I may do some research tonight after I get home from work.

We've got quite a few people coming over this weekend to visit Kodiak. He's made quite an impression with a lot of people, partly because he's a wolf and partly because he's just a really great guy. Even the UPS driver is going to come visit. How do you like that? LOL.

Well, I gotta get back to the salt mine. Thanks for sticking by us. We need it.

Bev, Tigger, & Kodiak

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Hi Bev, Tigger and Kodiak,

I was sorry to learn about Kodiak's medical issues.  My German Shepherd Dog had hemangiosarcoma and so I did a lot of research on that topic to try to help her.  The vets gave us about two weeks to two months for her to live.  Why the "predictions"?  Because I guess that's what doctors and vets do.  The reality is that no one knows how long a person or a pet is going to live, but they seem to have a need to "predict" it, perhaps in the name of "preparing" the family members or pet owners.  That having been said, just know that each person and each animal is unique and each has its own prognosis and destiny.  I know that "Jerry" was given a certain amount of time and he proved everyone wrong.  So did my Luna, who was born four years ago today.  She was diagnosed at the age of 2 years and died at 3 years, but she did last more than a year from the first exhibition of symptoms. 

I have a lot of information stored on hemangiosarcoma on my computer that I would be pleased to share with you.  You can reach me through "Jerry".  I also know that there are some new drugs available now, that weren't available when Luna was alive.  If you could get me more details about Kodiak's case, especially pathology on the leg, etc., that would be very helpful.  Where is the primary tumor?  Hemangiosarcoma is more often in the spleen, but can present in the bone, and that is what happened with Luna.  I got seven opinions from pathologists, and several of them disagreed with one another on what kind of cancer it was.  I needed to have the right diagnosis, so that we could treat it appropriately.  Treatment was significantly delayed because we had been told she would only live a few weeks, plus we also significantly delayed amputation, because we were told that she would be in the "dying process" by the time she was healing from the amputation.  It was a dreadful prognosis, and so we did nothing (other than making her comfortable).  But, six months later, she was still going strong and we decided that since she had defied all of the grim predicitions, that she deserved another chance at life.  I often wonder if we had amputated and treated immediately at diagnosis, if she would have survived longer, or even have been a "cure". 

What is the life expectancy of a wolf?  I am assuming it is somewhat similar to a dog/German Shepherd?  Your dog's age is a concern, but only you know your dog and his overall health and if you think he might be able to tolerate the operation at his age and overall health.  If he has lived a full life and his health is otherwise good/decent, you might wish to try just chemo, new drugs, or even limited surgery, rather than full amputation.  Luna had part of her right hind leg removed (for biopsy) but still had her leg, but she really couldn't use it anymore, and it basically just hung there, tucked up when she walked or ran.  The majority of the cancerous area had been removed by this surgery, but not all of it, and that part grew back and became very painful, that is when we had to decide whether or not to put her to sleep or to amputate and give her another chance. In her case, especially because she was only two years old, I decided to give her another chance, and took her to the University of Florida in Gainesville to have her leg amputated by Dr. Nick Bacon.  Amputation is not for everyone, and is not appropriate in some cases, it should be regarded in a case by case basis, weighing all factors carefully.  Luna came through the surgery well, and it gave her another quality six months overall, and so, we have no regrets in taking that path. 

There will be many factors to consider with Kodiac, and the more information you can find out about his case, the better decisions you can make for him in the future and what kind of medical care he should get.  My heart goes out to you in this situation.  It is heartbreaking and gut wrenching, however you look at it.  But, Kodiac, like so many dogs on this site, can defy the odds and outlive the predictions.  I'm hoping and praying that will be the case for him.

Feel free to contact me anytime for more information if you'd like to discuss his case in more detail.

Sincerely,

Sandra & "Angel" Luna

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29 April 2009 - 5:32 pm
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Thank you so much Sandra. I'd love to have a look at the research you've collected. There might be something useful that we can use. I've asked Kris to call the vet tomorrow and see if they will fax over the pathology results on Kodiak's case. The only notes I have on the receipt is "soft tissue malignant growth, probably hemangiosarcoma." He is listed as anemic (PCV,TP 35%), received biopsy, histopatholoy 1-tissue, radiograph.

Hybrid wolves generally live 10-12 years, so by our reckoning, he's pushing it. Captive wolves have been known to reach 16.

Kris fixed him a dinner of rare steak, chicken livers, cottage cheese, yogurt & flaxseed. He is an extremely happy wolf this evening, and was petted by many visitors.

I honestly think the more "happy" food he's getting, the better it looks like he's feeling. Of course, it might be the drugs too.

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29 April 2009 - 8:43 pm
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Sandra, you are wonderful, thank you so much for the thoughtful and wise advice. We really appreciate your sharing Luna's story here. It's truly amazing how many advances in this field can be made in such a short amount of time. Let's all hope that soon they'll actually be able to find a cause, and a cure, so more dogs like Kodiak won't have to face this..

Bev, we hope that some information you find will help your wolf baby live a longer, healthy life even with this disease. For now, he sure sounds like a happy boy with all that great food!

Keep us posted OK?

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30 April 2009 - 10:38 am
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I've got Kris onboard and he's been researching alternative treatments for Kodiak as well. As soon as we get the pathology results in hand we're going to visit a second vet for a second opinion, and possibly even make a trip to a holistic vet over in Panama City. I bet I spent a good three hours last night reading up on chinese herbal medicine and it's use in treating cancer. In fact, I've devoted so much time that I'm way behind on my article writing deadline and don't have a hobby article ready for Saturday yet. *gulp*

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I'm thinking if you get really creative you can make all this research into a hobby articleWink

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
The November Five - Spirits Max, Cherry, Tika, Trouble & Nova. 11/2008 - 3/2013 An era ends as Queen Nova crossed the Bridge.

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