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1 February 2021 - 9:05 pm
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Brilliant!!

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Folks, I had a hard moment today. Runcus and I (and lots of other dog and handler teams) had signed up for a "Conservation Dogs" program in late 2019 to be a detection team in search of the elusive and endangered Wyoming Toad. The online training was underway and Runcus was excelling in most all the benchmarks she needed to reach to be accepted into the program. (I was doing ok too) We were to meet the trainer face to face in March of 2020. Of course that didn't happen, and the "Toad-Sniffers" study was eventually put on hold.

I received word tonight that the program is still on hold, more or less indefinitely. I don't know exactly why it hit me so hard, but it's certainly one thing she'll never be able to do,  and she would have been brilliant at it.

Even if we lick this dang cancer, she'd have had to work long hours, following her nose for miles each day, and it just isn't a reality for Runcus on 3. A mile or 2 a day? I have absolutely no doubt we'll get there some day, but 8-10 miles, all day, every day for a few weeks in the spring and summer? It just felt like such a blow letting that dream go. 

I know we are blessed by every moment our beloved dogs are part of our lives, I'll never belittle that fact. But there's richness that's been lost in the course of this dreadful disease and it hit me full-force tonight. 

I don't expect any sage advice or words of wisdom,  I'm just grateful for a place to pour my heart. 

Virginia







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1 February 2021 - 10:12 pm
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Wow, that sounds like fascinating program!  And for you and so many others to already  have put time and effort into this, only to. be sidelined just sucks!

Nope, no advice or words of wisdom!  Still gonna make a suggestion though

Check out doing Nosewrk with Runcus.  One tripawd member named Elly is quite skilled at it.  She and her hooman thoroughly enjoy the sport.  I know this is way different than the "toss sesrch", but still provides some great bonding  time. 

Also wondering if you and Runcus could participate on some sort of part time, or tag team basis whereby you would only have to cover two miles as opposed to eight.    

Please keep in mind that I'm very uninformed. I hope my questions don't sound too stupid .  It was just so fascinating to hear about this project snd it certainly never occurred to me that something like this existed.

And yes, this is definitely  a safe place  "to pour your heart out"💖

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Thank you,

I dunno what Nosewrk is, actually. I figure it's Nose work of a certain type. Do you work in teams, as a pair, what are they sniffing...? We certainly need something we can do together! I've been the one doing all the "mean stuff" lately, and while I know she trusts me, she is worn out with all the poking, prodding, soaking and trips to her personal "worst place ever." 

She is healing, the fluid pocket on her elbow is greatly reduced. As I've said she's still a happy, happy pooch, but I sense a difference some how. She's a little guarded, I suppose would be the word. A fresh bonding activity would probably do wonders for both of us.

It does seem prudent to wait until she's stronger though. I'm sure she's getting stronger every day, but I think she'd push herself too far pretty easily right now. 

As far as tag teaming with the Toad -Sniffers, it really wouldn't work. The dog picks up the toad scent she's been trained to recognize and pursue, and follows it, hopefully to where the actual toad is. Since they are so criptic and hard to see us poor 2 leggers don't have a very good chance of spotting them without a good froggy doggy companion. So no good way for someone to really pick up where someone else left off. 

Anyway, it's less about her not being able to work the long hours, and more about the reality of how different our lives will be, and how it hit me last night. Don't get me wrong,  I know we have lots of rich, rewarding days ahead, but how changed they will be suddenly was made real. 

Thanks for your kind words and gentle suggestions. I'd like to know more about the Nose work you brought up and check out how to get involved.

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2 February 2021 - 9:08 am
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I'm still in awe of the Toad Sniffers and all the teaining it must take to stay focused on the goal!  So when they do find the Wyoming Toad, do they take an alert position like a  Bird Dog.!   

And we certainly can understand ALL the many layers of emotions not doing this program has brought up. 

Although different, I really, really think you'll find the Nosework rewarding.  I'm emailing Karen right now..  She's the master of everything involved and you will be delighted when you see Elly go thru the paces. 

Hugs

Sally  and  Alumni  Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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2 February 2021 - 10:56 am
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Oh I see Karen is posting here! YAY! She can tell you all about Nosework and scent detection!

Here are some canine nosework posts to get you started on your research. It's such a great sport for Tripawds!

https://gear.tr.....a-tripawd/

https://gear.tr.....-nosework/

I totally understand your sadness about the program and Runcus not being able to do it in the future. It's OK to feel sad in the moment. And then take a sec and watch Runcus, follow her lead and she will bring you right back into the present. What a gift!

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Hi, I was actually going to post about Nose Work earlier in your thread but I've got some issues going on at home and so am not around here much these days.

My little rear amp Elly has been doing the sport of Nose Work for several years now.  I started becasue Elly has fear and anxiety issues and this sport has really boosted her confidence.  I hadn't really planned on competing, thinking it would stress her too much but she has done better than I could have imagined.  I did push it too far last winter, going to too many trials in a row resulting in her anxiety level rising at the last couple of trials (she is usually really calm and confident) and her refusing to do a search at the last trial we attended.  I had decided to scale back before Covid hit, now we haven't trialed in about a year.  We do go to class (when restrictions allow it) and I think she is ready to get back at it, just at a slower pace when things get closer to normal.

Anyway- you don't have to compete if you don't want to.  Once you learn the game you can play anywhere and modify it to fit your needs. 

Here is a forum post I did a couple years ago when we got our NW2 title. There are links to Elly's blog with more information, pictures and videos.  There are several posts in Elly's Blog dealing with Nose Work.  Luckily I don't update it much so there aren't that many posts to sort through smiley4

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Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

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Thanks everyone! I did look into this a bit and seems like a great fit for Runcus. I live in a small town so will probably do most of this via internet and those in the "Nose" about it. I am so fortunate because my company actually has a dog detection program for some of the work we do and we have a great trainer "in house" so to speak. I even have a friend who's dogs were part of that program. It's been under my nose (sorry, had to) this whole time and I had my pity blinders on! Thanks for helping me see past them. 

In other news... Runcus is headed back to the vet today. The split in her elbow has continued to spread and it sort of went in a circle. She has a thick piece of skin that is about to detach completely. It will leave a big ( maybe 3/4 inch across and 1/2 inch deep) hole in her elbow. It's just not healing up. She'll have it debrided today and then on to wound care until we can get it healed. With it being in her 1 remaining elbow It's getting tons of use and jarring as you are all well aware.  It is likely to take a good long while to completely close over. 

I did devise a rather brilliant bandage for it if I do say so myself. I snipped the toe out of one of Hubby's socks, pulled it up over her leg until the heel was at her elbow. Then pinned a couple wide strips of elastic to the top, across her back and then pinned to the other side of the sock. It's so much less bulky than the t-shirts have been. And she is so, so patient with me while I mess around getting it place.

God bless our brave, strong-hearted, impossibly loyal canines!

I'll post again once we're on the other side of this procedure.  

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3 February 2021 - 12:58 pm
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Owwwww poor girl. I'm so sorry! Your bandage sounds very helpful, good job. Let us know what the vet says.

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Well yesterday's procedure went well, they were able to excise all the "mushy"tissue and stitch the elbow closed. They did leave a small hole in the bottom for fluid to drain. She definitely felt better afterward. Even my friend commented this morning how much better she looks! 

However, as this morning wore on the leg below the bandage swelled up. We are headed back to the clinc to have it re-bandaged, wrapping to to just above the toes. Have I mentioned yet how weary we both are with trips to the vet...? 

She's going to need more time on the antibiotics. Does anyone have suggestions for probiotics,  prebiotics, anything that will help reestablish a healthy bacterial flora? 

Thanks as always for reading!

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Oh my gosh you guys must be exhausted! But at least the healing can really begin now, that's good. I hope you can get some rest this week.

I just posted about FMT therapy on Jake's thread. As a biologist I think you'll appreciate this procedure that can re-establish the microbiome:

https://tripawd.....5/#p239857

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A standing ovation to you, and Runcus too, for staying the course and getting this issue in your rear view mirror sooner rather than later!,

So telling that she already is showing she's feeling better. It had to be aure painful and hindering her mobility.  Hoping things continue to improve daily.

Hugs

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

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Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Hey there, 

We are going on 3 days with no trips to the vet, or even calls to the on call Dr. Woop woop! Runcus' new bandage is still in place with no indication of additional swelling in the tiny tips of her toes that are sticking out the bottom. We'll try and leave it in place as long as we can. I can wrap a bandage with the best of 'em but toe to shoulder is a long darn ways on this pooch! I sure don't wanna take her back to the clinic for it if I don't absolutely have to.

They added another antibiotic as well, so I'm watching for signs of disrupted gut flora. So far all ok. I don't think FMT will be necessary at this point, but I have heard of it and will be pursuing that possibility if she starts having any real symptoms. I was thinking more about how to try prevent her natural bacteria from becoming too depleted. I can certainly do some of my own digging and I know something as simple as adding kiefer to her diet may help. Just wondered if others here have dealt with longer-term antibiotic treatment. She will be over a month on antibiotics by the time we're done with this round.

Also, I think I read on here where bed/bedding licking may have to do with acid reflux? It's an indication of it maybe? She started doing that right before we found her elbow issue. Just the bed, or whatever she's laying on, but often near her elbow... This is 100% a new behavior. Wondering if she's maybe still got some stomach upset. Can anyone direct me to that article? Maybe where the idea came from that bed licking may equal acid reflux? 

Thanks everyone for the encouraging words

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7 February 2021 - 3:20 pm
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YAY! Fantastic news! Every day without a vet visit is manna from heaven! We are keeping our paws crossed your life stays taht way.

Also, I think I read on here where bed/bedding licking may have to do with acid reflux?

Yes! And  you did read that! Stacy mentioned it in Griffin's blog. And for the life of me I can't find the GERD links that she shared! It'll come to me. Stay tuned.

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7 February 2021 - 3:34 pm
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Here are some links with information about GERD/acid reflux:

https://www.dog…..x-in-dogs/

https://brindle…..s-in-dogs/

https://dogs.lo…..cid_Reflux

Griffin lived an amazing life for 11 years! Diagnosed with osteosarcoma on March 17, 2020, Griffin's right forelimb was amputated on April 2, 2020. Ten days later he was running and playing fetch! Lung metastasis discovered in July 2020 did not slow down Griffin and he lived joyfully for the next 7 months, passing peacefully at home on February 11, 2021. https://griffin.tripawds.com

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