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Buddy/16years/53# had Sx today; left hindlimb amputation
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25 May 2022 - 4:21 pm
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Has anyone seen "towel sling" related urethra/bladder trauma? 

5/7/22ish

3-4 days after his fracture the area above his prepuce was swollen, so after 3-4 days of a towel sling. 

I don't feel it was his bladder because while the DVM noted urine retention, he was urinating large amounts regularly. I've never seen a bladder so swollen that it was *huge* visually. 

5/11/22.   Anyways, the UA showed nothing of merit. The incontinence summed up to the fracture pain. Sx seemed curative of incontinence

5/20ish we used the towel material sling v.s. our preferred one more times in a row. Swelling came back.

5/24 Dog clearly has a UTI. Blood clots transitioned to lots of sedimentation, mucous, incontinence

The vet has been called and otherwise he's fine... I'm just wondering if anyone has seen specific trauma induced cases of urinary issue before with all these tripods and slings. 

It could very well be just a uti/cancer related/spinal injury/etc. I just feel like the towel sling always shifted in a way that has caused trauma, it literally stopped his urine flow once because of how it slid. 

Sutures should be out 5/27.. he waited until today to have a speck of pus at the "stump" suture but everything else is closed and clean. It shouldn't be a problem. 

He got away from me and ran down the hall today and didn't fall, so that was nice to see. Slightly funny.. but the poor dog hates pooping now. He has always walked and pooped, never stopped to go, which I guess he's finding difficult to manage on 3 legs. Buddy figures it out eventually but you can tell it annoys him to pause. 

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25 May 2022 - 4:35 pm
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Go Buddy! I love how he is is determined to figure things out on his own. Yeah, pooping and walking on 3 would definitely be a challenge. Betcha he will find a new way to do it though.

As for the urethra/bladder trauma, no, that is a new one to me. We once saw someone whose dog's bladder was ruptured when the bladder had to be manually expressed because the dog wouldn't urinate a few days after surgery. But I can't recall this kind of thing happening because of a sling. Very mysterious. Please let us know what the vet says and how they treat this so we can learn from it too.

I'm so glad he's otherwise doing great!

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6 June 2022 - 2:59 pm
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Well, the sternum and femur have come back as osteosarcoma. Unclear where the primary source is or if one of those are the primary. Based on the fact it's deemed mestatic I believe an oncologist would call this a stage 3. Appt on the 22nd. Issue began 4 months ago already. So that's not great.

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6 June 2022 - 3:33 pm
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First of  all, how is Buddy doing?  Last check in he was being quite feisty and went on a run down the hallway.  Attitude  good?  Surgery pain subsided?  That. fractured leg had to hurt.

I know it's hard to wait for the Onco consult,but think you'llhaveabetter picture of the ath forward. There is a pretty good chance there will be a cancellation  bet now and then so I would certainly call frequently  to check on and to have them keep you in mind on a daily basis. 

Have no idea if radiation  is an option of the sternum is involved,or whether that could be handled with chemo.  I know you have a lot on your pate, but the spleen issue needs to be addressed with the Onco too.  You have si many variables going on, it has to be daunting.   But I do recall you saying  yoj are a "day to day" person so I can only advise you to tap back into that strength.and it is a strength

. FWIW, oftendog limps are treated off and on for monthswith antiinflmmatory,  pain meds etc as a misdiagnosed  soft tissue injury. Adde Added to  that is the length  of time it takes to get the surgery scheduled. 

Anyway, try and con ti stay fulkynpreeent with Buddy and stay focused on the NOW.....just like Buddy is.

Oh, and has Buddy come to terms with pooing as a tripawd yet? 

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Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

PS....Maybe your regular  Vet could have influence  in getting you an appt sooner?????

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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6 June 2022 - 4:04 pm
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As far as pooping, I give him a muscle relaxant at night to a) help any injuries of the day b) let me sleep because 2 weeks of 4 hours or less was hurting and c) he now poops daily. So no the issue hasn't been fixed properly but now I don't have to worry about him having diarrhea from constipation or pain from gas. 

He went lame 2/27 which means we're behind far longer than 4 months. The mass on the spleen/liver/kidney could be related. The surgeon didn't agree to that but many research studies do say they can be. The surgeon didn't recommend removal of any of that or sternum area. The oncologist would have to give their opinion. Leaving any cancer in lessens survival time but at this point, I imagine he has mestatisis elsewhere that we would miss anyway. Especially since these known lesions are literally on opposite ends of his body. His ALP has been increased and he had a misdiagnosed extraskeletal osteosarcoma soft tissue mass ..both seem to lean towards very guarded prognosis. 

I took him camping and he walked a lot on the carpet path we made. he doesn't try solo outside. Walking is inconsistent, we're moving too slow with rehab and oncology. 

He's bored, so never wants to be alone now. Much like the other 2 dogs I have. Doesn't seem to enjoy sitting outside but is down with frozen kongs and constant attention. 

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6 June 2022 - 5:59 pm
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Cancer is so mean, I'm really sorry about the news. How are you holding up? I'm glad you took him camping. What a great way to lift his spirits! It's little things like being with his people and mowing on frozen kongs that mean so much to him. These things also remind us to be present moment by moment. It sounds like you certainly are doing that. 

I'm with Sally, see if your vet can lean in for an earlier appointment with the onco. If surgery is not an option for the mets, they might be able to tell you if radiation therapy for palliative care is a possibility. I wonder if that's an option for him?

Keep us posted OK? And give your sweet boy some extra belly rubs and attention from us.

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7 June 2022 - 7:55 pm
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I'll definitely call and see about any other openings. I had signed up online at a few places for new client appointment requests and never heard back, so this scheduled appointment was more last minute than I intended.

I'm open to what an oncologist suggests, I just know based on the articles I read that his particulars aren't great. I saw the bone strengthening medication and radiation are both common. Chemo can also help to slow progression but less effective since we left cancer affected parts inside. 

I tried to see what specifically takes them out with this particular cancer and all I really found was respiratory distress from lung mets or additional bone pain, both typically resulting in euthanasia v.s. spontaneous death. 

I kept seeing ALP evelation =  average survival time cut in half for any combination of circumstances. We've already passed a lot of his averages. I knew it was probably not going to be a great diagnosis but I also hadn't thought about it much for real. I researched and tried to figure it out, but still kept allowing myself to assume we'd be fine so not to dwell. The actuality of him dying isn't something I can really wrap my head around yet. I never gave much thought to him not being around. He's been with me forever. Legit first best friend. 

I just feel isolated and off track. Not bad really, just aware I'm not fully taking in the situation. Just staying in my bubble with my dogs. I know when Buddy dies I'll lose myself, so I'd rather we enjoy ourselves until then. 

My step mom died the day before I got his news. My best friend lost her mom 2 months ago and her dog spontaneously recently... so we're not speaking much. Our lives are too parallel I guess to be able to enjoy each other + we both are battling some short tempers and rawness with similar situational triggers. 

I forgot to pay my car insurance so apparently I've been driving all over VA and MD uninsured for the last month lol and forgot the electric until I got the 24 hour notice! Just dropping the ball everywhere. 

On the 14th I pet sit overnight for about 10 days, after that I plan to decline any overnights until the end of the year. I have several people I'm suppose to call back for meet and greets but I really don't feel like it. 

I only left my house the other day because my dog Titus had an opportunity to hang out with some dogs he enjoys. 

I adopted a dog a few years ago that was already 10, she died at home 3 years later while I was pet sitting. My boyfriend was home for her but we're both still traumatized by that. So I'm trying to be home as much as possible in general. That the was the first dog either of us lost that was actually ours v.s. a family pet we didn't live with.

On the camping trip, people kept calling him "our" dog and I would joke no.. but he's been around for 10 years of Buddy's life, this is the only pet he's known that long and for their entire life. So I'm definitely appreciative of the fact he treats Buddy like his own, solo I'd not have been able to do as much for him these last few months or made it past the sleep deprivation. 

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7 June 2022 - 11:05 pm
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You've been through so much heartache lately, I'm really sorry. Dogs keep us grounded at times like this don't they? 

I am keeping my fingers crossed that you get in to seen an oncologist sooner. There's always something you can do, even if it's palliative comfort care and pain relief. Dr. Google doesn't give us much hope so try to not research so much. I know it's hard to stay away from that kinda thing.

Keep focused on the present and be with your sweet Buddy. How was his day today?

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Well, looks like we're done. The oncologist offered bisphosphonates , chemo, radiation and some experimental oral chemo but recommended none of it. 

He thinks we run the risk of adding side effects that outweigh the benefits. It's either treat aggressive or not at all. I pretty much knew this. 

We didn't do radiographs or repeat bloodwork. I was told to add in codeine or other pain meds if needed. 

I got the "handling the euthanasia" talk i.e. have I decided where/how. I was told 2 to 3 months probably. I get to wait and see which ball drops first. Respiratory distress from lung metastasis, liver failure, splenic mass rupture or increased bone pain +/- more pathological fractures. I think not knowing which to watch for is the worst part. 

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23 June 2022 - 11:17 pm
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Not sure if they worked, but short shot of our January snow day. Same shenanigans here pulled in April. 

Buddy is the less barky, shorter and chunkier dog lol 

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24 June 2022 - 11:45 am
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Awwwww I love the snow day videos. The snow gave them both so much energy! Thank you for sharing. I hope they made you smile too when you watched.

I know your heart is pretty heavy right now and I can't blame you. I think your oncologist gave some pretty sound, but difficult to hear, advice. I would be a mess.

Focusing on quality of life and pain control is the primary goal at this point, is what it sounds like to me. If that's the case, sit down with Buddy and come up with a bucket list of things he loooves to do. Start doing them! Even though the vet gave you an approximate timeframe for when things might get bad, the key word is "might." You just never know. Dogs don't have expiration dates stamped on their butts, as one wise member from here once said. They constantly prove otherwise and show us that it's not about dates or time, but about right here, right now. Focus on that and being present with Buddy, cancer can never, ever take those moments from you.

Here are some links that you might want to visit. A hospice vet is such a gift right now, if you are able to work with one. If you have trouble finding one near you let me know and I'll try to help OK?

How to Prepare for Pet Loss Before It Happens

The Pet Caregiver Burden Conundrum

Please let us know how we can support you two. We are here for you.

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Can only ditto everything  Jerry  said.  Buddy is definitely not a statostice and does not have a timeframe  stamped  on his butt.  He has already shown that, for a very mature fella's, he remains his feisty,  spunky self.

Ypu have already helped to restore  his quality  and give him good extended  time  for more loving,  treats and more camping trips.  

You have been through  a lot of l0ss recently and I know that has not helped with your emotions.   You have a good suppprt  system  with your boyfriend  and his pawsitive  energy  will help a lot!  

Definitely  stay in the present.....in the moment t.....in the now!  Let nothing  interfere  with your time together, okay?  To focus on what may or may not happen down the road takes away from your time together now.

And we want more photos and videos!!!!!  Coming  back in a vit tp look at what you jist ppste

(((((((((((Hugs))))))))

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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I'm sorry you have reached this point with Buddy.

I got here with TriPug Maggie when she was diagnosed with her second cancer. I was offered some aggressive treatment options none of which I would do.  Mag had multiple issues at that point including renal failure and lesions on her liver (from her first cancer), our oncologist also thought treatment would probably not be of any benefit.

I was emotionally spent after 3 months of problems and a big crash we didn't expect her to survive.  When she stabilized and I had gone over all the options I decided to keep her comfortable and happy for as long as we had.  I never asked for a prognosis.

I actually found some relief after making that decision.  There would be no more treatments, no more tests, no more vet visits.  What I did do was to write down what Mag's minimum life quality would be, as soon as we got to one of those triggers it would be time.  I was most concerned about her being in pain.  She never handled pain meds well and with kidney and liver issues giving her strong meds would just cause additional problems. 

When the tumor in her mouth broke into her jaw it was time for her to cross.  It was just about 3 months from diagnosis.

Love on Buddy every moment that you have.

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

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