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Green Bay, WI


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22 September 2015 - 7:40 pm
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We also had to wait for special stains to be done to diagnose Nitros cancer, they couldn't tell from the bone biopsy. After 5 weeks they finally said it was OSA, but I really don't know what I believe. Hope you get answers soon, prayers coming your way.

Paula and Nitro 

Nitro 11 1/2  yr old Doberman; right front amp June 2014. Had 6 doses carboplatin, followed by metronomic therapy. Rocked it on 3 legs for over 3 years! My Warrior beat cancer, but couldn't beat old age. He crossed the Bridge peacefully on July 25, 2017, with dignity and on his terms.  Follow his blog entitled "Doberman's journey"

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"Be good, mama loves you".....run free my beautiful Warrior

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29 September 2015 - 3:55 pm
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So the vet called with Kasey's results. This maybe a lengthy post so bear with me!

The good news is the tumor was low grade. However, the stains were showing some "questionable readings" so the oncologist feels that we need to do some treatment. The oncologist said that radiation, chemo, or some type of injections (I wrote the name of them down but left them at work) were our choices. My vet said that radiation would have to be done at North Carolina State University which is an hour and a half drive from here. She said sometimes they have you drop the dog off, leave it for a couple of days, come back and get her, and then repeat the process for 4-6 weeks. The other option would be a daily chemo pill for two months or the injections. The injections would be once a week for four weeks and then once every other week for another four weeks. The problem with the injections is you have to do frequent blood work due to the impact on the bone marrow. So the vet told me she was waiting to hear back from NC State to get their report and she would let me know more.

I got this information while I was at work so I had to let it soak in. I called the vet back after work and asked her questions regarding how treatment would impact Kasey's age (she is 13), the fact that she has Cushings Disease, and her low thyroid. The vet said she had just heard from NC State and what they said was different than the oncologist. NC State said that at this stage radiation was not necessary due to the grade of the tumor. They said if it's possible to do surgery again and get more cells to do a better reading. If the most invasive form of surgery had already been done, then they suggested we just monitor it. My vet said they can not go back in and get anything else because the tumor was located right up to the rib cage and she got the best possible margins already. There is not enough skin left to work with if they went back in. So since we've already done the most invasive surgery, then according to NC State we just monitor it. She said if NC State felt that chemo or injections were necessary then they would've put that in the report. So now she feels like we are in limbo.

She said Kasey's age is definitely something to take into consideration. The chemo and injections can of course impact her. The chemo can make her not act like herself, be lethargic and not her normal self. The injections can cause GI issues and she would have to be on meds for that. The vet said that she would not like to see Kasey not be "Kasey". Now that NC State said what they did she feels that monitoring the situation may also be needed right now. So she is going to call NC State, tell them what the oncologist said and get their feedback. She is also going to talk to the other vet at the office, the one who did Kasey's amputation and get his input. She is off tomorrow so she said she would call me on Thursday or Friday.

So this is where we stand. I'm waiting to see what NC State has to say. I truly trust their input considering they rank #3 as vet hospitals and universities in the country.

Danell and Kasey

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29 September 2015 - 4:29 pm
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WOW! That's a lot to digest! What a day!

Time for some deep breaths!!

I REALLY, REALLY like your vet...the one who said she would not like to see Kasey not be Kasey!! That's what it's all about for Kasey right. The fact that the tumor was low grade and the best surgery that could be done has already been completed could work in Kasey's favor. As far as the "questionable" findings, that could ean dozens of things..from nothing to maybe something. The fact that Kasey is acting fine is the best clue!

We're all wishing for the best possible outcome for Kasey...whatever that may mean! Give her lots of hugs for us and continue to stay in the present with her!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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29 September 2015 - 6:37 pm
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Sounds like you did a pretty darn good job absorbing all that information. I agree, she's in GREAT care at NC state and your vet's compassion speaks volumes. I'm with the monitoring approach, because what you described sound like it could really impact quality of life at her age. Sometimes doing nothing at all is the best medicine of all and this might be one of those times. OK, keep us posted and thanks for the update. Give Kasey a smooch from us!

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Livermore, CA




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29 September 2015 - 7:18 pm
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Did the vet give you the mitotic index?  That might help you decide on a path forward. A low grade tumor and a low MI would be good. Did they get good margins with the surgery?

Are the injections you mentioned steroids?  I saw in an earlier post in this thread you mentioned steroid injections. Maggie took prednisone pills as part of her chemo after her amp- she really didn't have any issues with the chemo or the other meds. But she was about 8 at the time and had not yet developed any other health issues.

When Maggie's second kind of cancer was diagnosed I had to make a tough decision on treating aggressively or not.  By then she was 11 and was in the early stages of kidney failure and had some suspicious lesions on her liver (her original cancer was mast cell so I always worried about the liver). The treatment recommended was surgery to remove the tumor and part of her jaw, followed by radiation. With everything going on I decided to not aggressively treat the melanoma.

You can't yet make a decision, you are still waiting for input right? I know you will do the best thing for Kasey.

 

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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30 September 2015 - 3:41 pm
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I'll have to ask mitotic index? I honestly cannot remember. She said they got good clear margins. When she originally had her leg amputated and the tumor removed a year and a half ago the margins were good and the index was low. I I will ask again about the injections. I can't recall the type but I know it's just a more aggressive approach than chemo pills. 

I am waiting for more input from the vet at NC State and my other vet. Right now Kasey is happy and loving life! 

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3 October 2015 - 6:42 pm
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So my vet called yesterday and I got some good news. She talked to the oncologist at NC State and asked him why they recommended just monitoring the situation when the oncologist contracted in through my vet said radiation, chemo or injections. The NC State oncologist said he cannot justify a reason to give Kasey any treatment right now. He feels that with this tumor and her previous tumor both being low grade there is no reason to treat. He said he believe that they chance of another one occurring is low. The vet that just did her recent tumor removal, spoke to the other vet that did her amputation and he said he would just monitor the situation too and not treat it. He said do physical exams every three months and let it be. So I'm good with just monitoring the situation. Kasey had her leg amputated in Feb. 2013 and it took a year and a half for this recent tumor to appear. I'm not saying that it would take that long if another does come, but wishful thinking. She is 13 years old and I just want her to be happy and live like she is right now! Thanks everyone for your continued support!!!

Livermore, CA




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3 October 2015 - 6:53 pm
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Sounds good!

It makes sense to me with what I know about mast cell and what you have shared about Kasey.

The best part: Kasey gets to keep hopping as her happy, no extra vet visits, self!

 

I'm really happy for you guys.

 

Karen

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

1999 to 2010

 

              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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3 October 2015 - 9:58 pm
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Good sound advice from the NC Onco! The "treatment plan" of monitoring is one that will definitely give Kasey good quality time to just be Kasey!!

She feels good. She's doing extraordinaryly well for a "mature" kid who also just happens to be a tripawd!

I think we are all breathing a sigh of relief for you...and with you.

Extra treats for everyone and sending over some hugs too!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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4 October 2015 - 12:51 pm
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I like that plan too! Glad to hear they were able to put your mind at ease.

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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