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Questions about Ella 'getting around' after surgery
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Raymond, NH
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5 September 2010 - 9:15 am
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Hi All.

Ella is going in for her amputation surgery on her front leg next Wednesday. As I'm trying to prepare some questions popped up and I was hoping for some advice?

 Stairs? Our house has stairs Ella will have to go down to go potty, how will that be for her? I am planning to use a sling and the ruff wear harness after she heals but is it still going to be to hard for her to maneuver down the stairs at first? My husband could carry her but I know we shouldn't be babying her and should act like everything is normal- that wouldn't be normal!

When will Ella be able to be alone? My husband and I are both taking vacation the week of Ella's surgery and after that I am going to try and work evenings for as long as possible so she won't be alone. I'm wondering at what point Ella will be able to be left alone, I am sure every dog is different and we will be able to tell when she's ready but I was just wondering about your experiences?

Crate? We haven't crated Ella in several years but I'm sure she would take to it again just fine. My question is should we crate her when we first start leaving her alone or is it hard for a front leg amputee to get out of a crate? I know from her previous 4 surgeries (hips & knees) that she is very good at staying still and resting on the couch and not getting up. I don't feel like we will need to crate her right after surgery (maybe I'm wrong?) but wondering if we should when we first start leaving her alone?

I figured after surgery we would prop her up on the couch (worked good with her hip & knee surgeries) and it might be easier to kind of slide her off the couch rather than trying to lift her from the dog bed on the floor. I know that she won't get off the couch by herself so I am not worried about that and we have 'bimpers' we can put up so she doesn't slip off. I just figured it would be more comfy and easier for her to get up. Any thoughts??

Thank you, I'm trying so hard to plan and I know it's probably impossible to really do that but at least maybe I will be a little prepared. I would love any info and to hear about your experience!

Thank you!!!

Angie

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5 September 2010 - 9:23 am
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the best laid plans.....  gayle is a right front amputee.  after the first week to ten days (once the pain meds were out of her system), she pretty much was her 'old self', getting around to eat, jumping up on the sofa, etc.  we have a few steps out to the back yard, and used the 'open cloth totebag sling' method for the first couple of days.  she soon chose to hop out on her own.  we tried to keep her off of the inside stairs as long as possible, but she figured out the basement (carpeted) stairs on her own...see her blog post at http://www.etga.....awds.com  i'm thinking ella is a pro at all this surgery stuff, and will be up and at 'em pretty quickly.  don't know about the crate issues, as i am fortunate enough to be around or 'in and out' so the girls have free run of the main level of our house.  good luck, and don't over think this...it will happen in it's own way, and it will be ok.

charon & gayle

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5 September 2010 - 9:50 am
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Thank you Charon & Gayle,

Yes, I am great at over thinking everything! It can be a curse sometimes but I'm one of those people that likes to have a plan for everything and organize my 'mind files'- drives my husband crazy!

 I almost wish we did her surgery right away and didn't have to wait- gives me too much time to think confused I keep reading post and think 'oh I never thought of that being an issue' and then I wonder what else I'm not thinking of! Ugh...

I think Ella will handle everything fine too, as you said she is a pro at this surgery stuff. A lot of pawrents mention the pain meds making their dog's loopy and that they dont' act 'normal'  but Ella has been on pain meds for awhile now and is so immune to them I don't think she will act much different- although she is on a low dose. I'm not sure if being use to the pain meds is in her favor or not ?

I will be so glad when she comes off her pain meds altogether, I hate that she has been on them for so long and I worry about the side effects. But while we were trying alternative treatments ie: acupuncture, chiropractic, reiki, massage and adequan injections we had to keep her on them. We wanted to amputate a year ago but the vets kept saying it was premature, I wish we just listened to ourselves and did it then because here we are! We could have saved her from going through all that- but at least we tried I guess and now we definitely know it's the right choice!

Woof!

Angie & Ella

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5 September 2010 - 12:18 pm
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Stairs? Our house has stairs Ella will have to go down to go potty,
how will that be for her? I am planning to use a sling and the ruff
wear harness after she heals but is it still going to be to hard for
her to maneuver down the stairs at first?

You'll be surprised at how she adapts. Did you see my Stairs video? Even though I did get the hang of it, my Mom wouldn't let me go down staircases by myself, she was too paranoid I would fall. If your stairs are carpeted, that's not as much of a concern as these slippery stairs I had at my house. We always had baby gates up.

When will Ella be able to be alone?

My pawrents started leaving me alone inside just an hour or two at a time. Honestly, my life wasn't much different. I slept while they were away, and as long as they left the baby gates up on the staircases, I didn't get into any trouble. Is your yard OK for her? Can she stay safe and not get out? If so, she should probably be alright. Test the waters little by little. Most Tripawds don't have any issues (other than the ones they had before they became Tripawds!) when being left alone.

Crate?

I wasn't crate trained but Wyatt Ray is, and he's fine.

I figured after surgery we would prop her up on the couch

She's going to be jumping on the couch before you know it! I think if something like this worked for you before, it will again. Test it and see how it works out.

You're asking some great questions!

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5 September 2010 - 12:54 pm
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Emily was released from the hospital a day earlier than expected so my husband and I both had to work her first day home.  I came home for lunch to check on her and she was fine.  We, too, have steps.  She had to go down steps to go outside.  Going down steps seems easier on back leg amputees and going up a bit harder so I imagine it is the opposite with front leg amputees.

Of course that is assuming no complications.  Try not to over think everything.  (easier said than done!)

Keep all of us updated.

Debra & Angel Emily

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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5 September 2010 - 2:45 pm
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Overthinking isn't all that bad wink  At least you'll be somewhat prepared for what's ahead!  But you've already been thru some serious surgeries, so I'm betting you're prepared more than most!

I didn't crate Maggie...but I bought an Xpen and used it as a 'wall' all spread out to keep her in our carpeted living room and off the hardwood floors. 

She slept on the floor or her dog bed.  I remember the day when she actually jumped up on the futon all by herself!  What a party.  That was probably 3 wks after surgery.  She left some toe scratch marks in the frame for me to remember it by smiley

Maggie doesn't "do" stairs...well, she can handle 2-3 and that's it.  But she's a rear leg amputee.  It seems the front leggers have an easier time with stairs?

As when you can leave her alone...time will tell on that I suspect...see how things roll out as she recovers.  My dog was quite sick after surgery, so I was home alot with her but I also only work a couple miles away from home.

Tracy, Maggie's Mom

Maggie was amputated for soft tissue sarcoma 10-20-09

Maggie lost her battle with kidney disease on 8-24-13

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Hi Angie!! I'm so sorry to hear about Ella's diagnosis, but so hoppy that you found our wonderful family. We will be thinking about you on Wednesday (Zeus had his done on a Wednesday and he did WONDERFULLY!!! that's a good sign :-))

It's great that you're able to take a week off of work..it's very helpful. The first night home (Zeus came home Thursday evening) was really ruff. Though he was doing well, he was still coming off the sedative and he sat there and panted all night long staring at me while I tried to get some sleep on the living room floor....needless to say, I didn't get any sleep and I had actually questioned my decision by the time Friday morning rolled around. I called my Vet (and best friend) in tears and she came over and showed me how to use the sling to help him get around. I had hard wood flloors and I covered them with a mismatch of rugs from Target before the surgery (later, I ended up getting some decent looking ones to at least match the furniture because he could manouver the floors so much better with rugs down). She showed me how to get him down the stairs from the deck to go potty and back up again. God bless her, she hung out with him for about 3 hours while I got some rest.

Before she left, she made sure I had the hang of the sling and Zeus and I ended up hanging out outside most of that day in April. I put a blanket down in the backyard and brought my book out and he slept most of the day. I had another dog, Buddy - but he stayed at my sister's house for a week while Zeus recovered - that ended up being a good call actually as much as I hated to send Buddy away.Zeus could get used to everything and so could I without taking anything away from Buddy.

My dad came to stay with me for 10 days to help...another godsend. We set up a mattress on the living room floor and boy did Zeus get even more spoiled than ever! My dad and I took turns sleeping with him in the living room. I found that rest was key in dealing with the recovery. If you and your husband can take turns...that would help out a lot! These next two weeks are going to be very emotional - so rest will surely help you deal with the emotions better...at least that's the way it was for me.

Honestly - by the time day 4 rolled around, Zeus was doing really well considering the surgery he went through. Still needed help, still panting from the pain meds, but resting too. The stitches came out after 2 weeks (and we stopped the pain meds) and yes, I did take him about 3 times to just be "checked out" during that 2 weeks because I'm neurotic when it comes to my boys, but he did fabulously! Once

As for leaving Ella alone and when its a good time - you'll know. The first time is the HARDEST - but just run an errand or two and be back in an hour. You'll quickly learn that they adjust better and faster than we do and that all is well. Put some baby gates up to block the stairs until the stitches come out. I took the baby gates down after the stitches came out because Zeus was good in that he knew his limitations and he didn't push it. He actually handled all the stairs in my townhouse really well - he just took his time and I walked closely beside him just in case probably for about 3 weeks (again - more because I'm neurotic than because he couldn't handle it)l. I'm not sure what to recommend about the crate - Zeus never used one so I obviously didn't introduce it to him at this point.

Zeus was 10 years old when we did this surgery. He did incredibly well with it, with the chemo and with life on 3 legs. Except for that one Friday morning after the surgery when I was tired and he was too, I have never ever regretted walking this journey with him. He beat the cancer, survived for 18 more months and if it hadn't been for the sudden onset of kidney failure, I'm sure he would have hung out with me for many more months...maybe even years. He was a happy, happy boy.

I wish you as much success as I had with the recovery - we hardly had any complications. I wish you many wonderful days, months and hopefully years with Ella - live it one day at a time and focus on the here and now - she will quickly teach you that each day is a gift to treasure and focus on...not yesterday and not tomorrow. That's one of the many lessons that I learned from Zeus.

Much love and best wishes - please keep us all posted and ask tons of questions along the way - someone is always here to respond.

Hugs,

Heather and Spirit Zeus

Heather and Spirit Zeus - Our life changing journey…from the earth to the heavens…one day at a time…always together

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You already got some good replies but I decided I would add my 2 cents anyway! So Chloe was a rear amp and took to the stairs MUCH sooner than I had wanted or anticipated. And I will echo others when I say that rear amps do better going down and front amps do better going up. The opposite is harder since they only have the one leg to support them. As for being left alone, use your judgement. Chloe was fine for an hour or two if I had to run an errand. I would just cone her, confine her to the living room and move her water bowl so she wouldn't knock it all over the carpet. The one thing I didn't expect her to do, was crawl OVER the couch to the windowsill and sit in it to wait for me to come back. We do have curtains covering the 5'x4' sill/seat behind the couch, but she REALLY wanted to be able to look outside. 

I thought this was a good story to tell because it made me realize she could do more than I had anticipated and that there are things you haven't thought of regarding trouble they can get into...And in case you were wondering, no she couldn't get back over so I had to carry the 65lb silly butt back over the couch...

-Chloe's mom

Chloe became a rear amp tripawd on 7-29-10. Another tumor was removed on front leg 2-20-14. Found 3rd tumor on neck 2-2015, but she's still kicking cancer's butt at age 14. Chloe's blog

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