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48 hrs post-op concerns
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14 June 2010 - 1:19 am
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Oscar is now a little over 48 hours post op.  He stayed at the vet an extra day because he's refusing to eat.  We went to visit him this afternoon and they suggested we bring some of his favorite food because he wouldn't eat anything they offered him even after appitite stimulants.  We were told as long as he ate a few bites of what we brought and kept it down for 30 mins or so we could take him home.  Well, he had no interest in the food we brought him but the vet tech suggested we bring him home anyway since being back in his own environment would probably help. 

He's been home for about 6 hours now and let me assure you they've been a TOUGH six hours for the most part! laugh When we brought him home we didn't have much issues getting him out of the car (he actually tried to jump out of the back of our ford explorer by himself) and he he hopped right in the house with no issue.  He did sort of collapse about 10 feet inside the door and didn't want to move.  Since moving him is such an ordeal due to his size I just left him there since he seemed comfortable enough.  He won't get up on his own even though the vet assured us he can but he has been moving around and changing positions.

I am concerned about his water intake.  The vet had mentioned that they couldn't leave water with him because he would drink until he threw up.  They were giving him ice cubes to help quench any thirst he may have even though he shouldn't have been thirsty since was on iv fluids.  I offered him some water at home which he drank right up.  I also offered food which he turned down.  After about an hour he was crying and whimpering which was SO pitiful and hard to listen to.  I gave him a bowl of ice cubes and that did occupy him for a while and he licked them completely gone.  Since he'd had a lot of water we decided to take him outside to go to the bathroom and he was not having it.  I was supporting his front and my husband had a towel under his hind end and he wouldn't support any of his weight.  He collapsed as soon as we got him on the grass.  We figured the trip out was probably pretty taxing so we'd leave him out there since it is a nice night and let him rest a few minutes before  getting him back in the house.  I went to check on him 5 minutes later and he had moved about 50 feet through our yard and was drinking out of the horse trough!!  I guess this is good and bad...He can move himself as long as he's motivated but it worsens my concerns about why he's so thirsty.  Of course he quickly puked up a bunch of water... 

My other concern is his pain level.  He seems to be in a lot of pain and has episodes of wimpering/crying.  However, the pain doesn't seem to be coming from his amputation site.  He'll sit on his incision and lay on and it doesn't seem to bother him.  It seems almost like his pain is coming from his abdomen which makes me worry that he has an inernal injury that was missed.  His abdomen seems a bit distended.  I noticed it at the vet's office but thought it was probaby due to his posture and the fact that he was all hunched over so I didn't say anything but after watching him at home I wish I had.  His stomach isn't hard or hot to the touch, it seems like its full of water.  I know he's been drinking a lot but he isn't keeping it down and he was urinating at the vet's office.  I don't think its his bladder since his stomach looked this way before the horse trough incident.  Also, he hasn't eaten anything in almost 4 days so I'm worried about what could possibly cause all this swelling?  I'll be putting a call in to the vet's office in the morning. 

I guess I pretty much just needed to get this all off my chest and looking for reassurance that this is all normal laugh  Did anyone else have any issues with swelling in areas other than the amputation site? 

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14 June 2010 - 2:40 am
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I'm sorry you and Oscar are having a tough time.  I would call the vet and have a chat about your concerns.  I know the first couple of days Trouble was home I would take water to her so she wouldn't have to go to it, but I don't remember her having an unusual thirst.  Also, you didn't say what pain meds he is on, but I'm thinking some of them could affect his appetite - he may be a bit nauseous. Chicken and rice may be something he would like.  1/2 & 1/2 proportion, and it can be canned chicken.

The laying like a rock is faily common for a few days.  Trouble tired really quickly during recovery and would go into 'rock' mode and refuse to move.  I stood outside with her for over 30 minutes while she rested more than once.  She also wanted to be outside, just to lay in the sun and enjoy the cool (her surgery was in November).  I went and bought a childs t-shirt for her to wear to keep the surgery site off the bare ground.

Pain meds could cause the whining, some of the amputees have a hard time with the pain medicaiton.  Also could be some phantom pain going on.  I have no experience with this but it is fairly common. Do not hesitate to call the vet and voice your concerns.  He/she is there to help you through this and can modify medicaiton that may help tremendously.

I hope the big guy is feeling better soon.

Shanna & Spirit Trouble ~ Trouble gained her wings 3/16/2011, a 27 1/2 month cancer survivor, tail wagging. RIP sweetheart, you are my heart and soul.  Run free at Rainbow Bridge.
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14 June 2010 - 6:38 am
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wow you are having a time.  I had to leave Magic at the vet for four days so that I would have a better chance of helping him and he would be a titch more self sufficient as far as moving....it was mostly for me.  He was 114 pounds going in. 

I cannot stress enough to get the Ruffwear harness ...ask your vet when you can use it.  A lot of vets say wait til stitches are out, my vet let me use it as soon as I got it...probably five days maybe 6 after surgery, but his incision site was wrapped...this wonderful piece of cloth and straps may have saved my body from worse than it feels!!  And non skid runners if you don't already have them.

Magic was always a big water drinker, after the surgery he CONSUMED TONS of water...gallons, lakes....

He was taking tramadol which turned him into stranger dog and I could get him to respond to nothing the last time i have him one.   I don't know about the swelling...I thought seromas appeared at the surgery site, but that was where we got one so maybe they can form elsewhere? 

Absolutely call the vet as soon as they open and see what they think....the appetite ... well that's been problematic for us since the beginning...Magic now exists on tri tip. 

keep us posted....

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14 June 2010 - 7:18 am
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one more thing...Magic did it very occasionally prior to cancer...but he does puke up water if he drinks a whole bunch at once, I can almost guarantee something is going to come up.

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14 June 2010 - 7:27 am
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Sorry to hear all your troubles!!!!  My first thought on the water consumption is does he have a fever?  Have you taken it?  My dog drank alot after her amputation - she ran a low grade fever for two weeks.  She wouldn't eat very well.  I had to dream up stuff to feed her.  It was a really bad emotional roller coaster for me...cause she'd always had a GREAT appetite.  After we got fever down, she again started eating normal....2 weeks later.

I am anxious to see what your vet says....

Tracy, Maggie's Mom

Maggie was amputated for soft tissue sarcoma 10-20-09

Maggie lost her battle with kidney disease on 8-24-13

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14 June 2010 - 9:32 am
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Oh, dear, you and Oscar are having quite the time.

By all means, contact your vet and talk over your concerns and get some advice.

We didn't have any whining with Catie; but the Tramadol really did a strange number on her. Dopey (as in kind of 'stunned'); lethargic, all-in-all weird. She didn't really want to move around too much although she did have moments of great animation if anyone came over. After a little incident where Catie and her bro Riiley crowded at the doorway when unexpected visitors arrived and she got jammed against the door frame (ON the surgical site - oh, that was an awful cry of pain), we were vigilant in keeping her as quiet as possible for the two-week post-op period.

Keep us updated! Sending lots of healing wishes your way.

Carmen, Catie and Riley

 

Catie -

Birthday – November 4 2003

Amputation – January 13 2010

Crossed the Bridge – June 2 2011

 Catie Caitlin 

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14 June 2010 - 10:12 am
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oscarsmom said:

He won't get up on his own even though the vet assured us he can...

He seems to be in a lot of pain and has episodes of wimpering/crying. 

I'm worried about what could possibly cause all this swelling?  I'll be putting a call in to the vet's office in the morning. 


 

One helpful thing we learned from our Cal Animal Rehab video interview, is that the more we help recovering pups, the more they will come to rely on our help. We know it may be hard – emotionally – but be sure to only help him if he absolutely needs your assistance.

The whining, panting, constipation, and even the thirst can be side effects from the pain meds. What's Oscar taking? Stick with his prescribed dosage and don't overmedicate if you think he's still in pain. Be sure to review the tips for managing phantom limb pain in dogs available in the Tripawds Downloads blog too.

The distended belly is something we would definitely recommend discussing with your vet. Maybe he's not eating because he's constipated. (See meds comment.) He may also just be "scared" to go because he still feels awkward. Some dogs take days beore the get the hang of doing their doody.

Thanks for the update. Best wishes for things looking up from here!

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