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Mika's regiment - your thoughts? :)
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Well, thanks to all of you, I’ve cobbled together this regiment for Mika.  I was happy to find Evo at a pet store down the street, so Mika is VERY thrilled with her delicious, new no-carb diet  I always knew she was an Atkins girl at heart…

Mika is a 95 pound Dobe mix with undetermined type of cancer and is doing FABULOUSLY at almost one month post-amputation.  Her hot spot had been bothering her for years, so the vet isn’t convinced it’s OS, since it hasn’t spread to her lungs, which it should have done considering how long her leg was bothering her.  (The oncologist said that a granuloma does not turn into cancer.)  After reading through the forums and getting some feedback from some of you, this is what I’m starting her on tonight.  Please let me know if you think there’s anything you think I should add or subtract – any and all suggestions are appreciated!

RISE & SHINE SUPPLEMENTS
1 flaxseed oil capsule
2 acai berry capsules 
1 glucosamine capsule
1 vitamin C tablet

NIGHTY NIGHT SUPPLEMENTS
1 glucosamine capsule 
1 fish oil capsule
2 power mushroom capsules
1 Artemisinin capsule
1 tbs kelp powder
1 tbs alfalfa powder

Thanks in advance for your opinions!

Mari (Mika’s mom)

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Wowee! Now that’s a healthy diet!

I’m not a vet, but I would say that it definitely looks like a good place to start. It’s close to what I was eating.

As I mentioned in your other post about getting her to eat the alfalfa powder, I would introduce things a little at a time instead of all at once if she’s being picky about the new smells and tastes.

Try mixing in some fresh foods occasionally, like chicken, fish or cottage cheese if she’ll eat it. Not only is cottage cheese part of the Budwig anti-cancer diet protocol, but most dogs do love the taste

Also, you may want to rotate supplements a bit too, I’ve read that’s supposed to be a good thing to do. Try this regimen for a week or two, then mix it up a little the next.

Those are my thoughts for now, I’m sure others will have some great tips to add.

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Hee hee! I’m sure it does look close to what you were eating, since I copied your diet almost exactly.  LOL  Can’t afford the K-9 so went for the power mushrooms.  Thanks for the tip on cottage cheese.  She definitely eats it since she’s always looking longingly at the kids bowls of the stuff and waits for them to spill.  🙂

In terns of rotating the supplements, does that mean I don’t have to give them all to her everyday?  Maybe just the basics (which would be glucosamine and ??) and then rotate which ones?  Do you think I should add in Co-Q-10, which I think is pretty pricey…

Thanks again for your advice!

Mari

 


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I would give the Power Mushrooms twice daily and be sure to give the artemisinin at least a few hours after she has eaten meat.  We gave Tazzie hers with cheese (you have to avoid foods that contain iron). I would make sure that she is getting 2000 mg of omega 3 fatty acids which would probably take at least 2 fish oil caps twice daily (Nature Made Double Strength Fish Oil is a good one).  I would replace the flax oil with the fish oil because dogs need an extra step to convert the oils in flax seed to a usable form but fish oil is “good to go”.

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tazziedog said:

 I would replace the flax oil with the fish oil because dogs need an extra step to convert the oils in flax seed to a usable form but fish oil is “good to go”.

Pam


 

Pam, thank you for this feedback. We are going to add this suggestion to our Diets posts here and in our Nutrition Blog .

It’s interesting that the Budwig Diet protocol calls for flax oil and not fish oil, but perhaps because the Budwig Diet was originally intended for humans?

Do you know if replacing flax oil with fish oil would essentially do the same thing when combined with cottage cheese?

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Thanks a bunch, Pam.  I’ll change things up a bit.  🙂  I’ll just have to remember to give her the artemisinin later in the day.  Gah!


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Jerry,

I do not think that the cottage cheese would help since it is an enzyme that has to break down the oil.  Flax seed oil is certainly not harmful but it is just not as bioavailable to a dog versus a person, so you have to give more to do the same job as the fish oil.  Also, make sure that you read the label since total mg of fish oil is not the same as the omega 3 level (add amounts of EPA and DHA to get total omega 3 level).

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Thank you Pam. By any chance do you have any good links about the two oils that you can point us to? I just want to make sure we have some good references here. Thanks so much!

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In terns of rotating the supplements, does that mean I don’t have to give them all to her everyday?  Maybe just the basics (which would be glucosamine and ??) and then rotate which ones?  Do you think I should add in Co-Q-10, which I think is pretty pricey…

Thanks again for your advice!

Mari

 


 

Dr. Dressler (Dog Cancer Survival Guide) and other docs we’ve read about advocate for rotating supplements during cancer therapy every 10-14 days. So pick one thing like kelp, use that for a bit, then switch to alfalfa. We didn’t do it at the time because we didn’t know any better but now I would definitely do it.

We don’t have any experience with Co-Q-10 but here is what I read about it in one of my favorite canine nutrition books, The Whole Pet Diet

When we destroy enzmes in foods, it’s harder for the body to utilize the food’s nutrients, and the situation with supplements is similar. If vitamins and other supplements aren’t combined with live enzymes, they tend to pass right through the system. You may be wasting your money on vitamins if they’re used in absence of enzymes. One solution is to combine suplements with nutritious, enzyme-rich foods to help the body process more efficiently.

Coenzyme Q10 is an antioxidand found in every cell in the body. It helps control the flow of oxygen and better enables the body to produce energy from food. Many holistic practitioners use it to treat pets with peridoental problems and heart disease, and it has also been recommended for overweight and underweight dogs and cats with immune problems, decreased physical capacity and diabetes. SOme vets use it as a complimentary adjunct to dental cleaning, and they suggest giving CoQ10 in pill form form or diluting it in water and rubbing it directly on the gums.

There have been several studies supporting the efficacy of CoQ10. . . .Whenever possible, opt for Japanese or natural-source CoQ10.

Raw foodies are all about eating live enzymes in the diet. So if you don’t want to try another pill right now, maybe you can try getting those live enzymes in regular foods instead? Here’s one article about it. Then see how that goes?

 

 

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Mika is forever thankful to you that she will no longer have to eat alfalfa powder AND kelp in the same day…

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Ain’t she the lucky Dawg! Geez, if only my pawrents knew then what they know now…!

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This post is a few years since this topic came up, but there’s a good question in here that may be answered elsewhere.  Since it sounds like Flax oil isn’t processed nor absorbed the same way in dogs as humans, it sounds good to substitute the flax with some form of fish oil with cottage cheese (= Budwig).  So….where do we stand on this?  Can we, should we use some form of fish oil with cottage cheese rather than flax oil?  Same amount?  Less?  More?  I’m thinking topping Jackson’s meals with an oily-cottage cheese would make things darn tasty!

Thanks.

 

ACL tear in right hind leg 12/5/12 and scheduled ACL repair surgery 12/21/12. Pre-op xrays revealed osteosarcoma. Amputation 12/28/12.  Chemo (carboplatin) started Jan 10, 2013 and ended on April 5, for a total of 5 doses. He handled carbo like a champ!  No side effects.  We started metronomic therapy at his third chemo and have been also doing some holistic treatments.  He's a lively, playful 10 year old huskie-boarder collie and a very proud member of the Winter Warriors!  Our love. Our funny little guy!

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Great question!

The Budwig Diet is something a lot of folks follow and while it can’t hurt, it does sound like the fish oil would be a fine replacement to ensure your dog is receiving the full benefit of an EFA. If he’s never had cottage cheese before, be careful since some dogs are really lactose intolerant. Go slowly and see what happens. 

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Trouble was on a home cooked diet for a long while prior to losing her, and cottage cheese was part of it, along with some veggies and protein.  She started fish oil supplements soon after the chemo.

Yes, you need to make sure there are no lactose intolerance issues, and I would consult the vet for an opinion, although many of them do not stay real up to date on nutrition and foods.

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