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18 June 2010 - 5:59 pm
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Is it my imagination or have we seen an increase in spinal mets?  It seems like so many of our own fur kids have experienced spinal mets.  Is the chemo geared just for lung mets and so the cancer goes elsewhere?  Is there talk about this in the vet world?  I may just be more focused on it because of Emily.  I really don't know.

Debra

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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18 June 2010 - 7:21 pm
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Gosh that is interesting but shouldn't the treatments treat ALL the mets???  In Magic's case he got lung mets in five weeks then his kidneys were clear two weeks ago  and a week later we have tumors in one kidney (I'm sure they are in the other kidney now)...I'm just waiting for the thing to take over one organ after another.

I just assumed Chemo would be going after any cancer cells not just specific cells in specific places?  But what do I know since we were totally unsuccessful....

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18 June 2010 - 11:17 pm
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Emilysmom said:

Is there talk about this in the vet world?


 

Great topic. Don't miss the transcript from our live chat with Dr. Michael Lucroy discussing spinal mets with Dr. Pam Wiltzius – and much more.

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19 June 2010 - 9:32 am
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Lung mets are much more common especially if the dog does not undergo chemo so I think that most of the attention goes to the lungs.  My oncologist told me that dogs that had amp plus chemo were more prone to spinal mets or mets to another leg.  It is also very hard to diagnose spinal mets since the symptoms often show up before the lesion can be seen on an xray. Only an MRI or CT scan could pick those up and the these tests are costly as well as require anesthesia.  Even if diagnosed the prognosis is very poor so that makes things harder.

I have a patient here (Rottie had amp in May 2009) that started walking funny last month but xrays were normal.  I suspected spinal mets and she actually responded to Pred for a few weeks but just had to be put to sleep this week 🙁  This dog did not have any chemo and her lungs were still clear so sometimes the cancer just goes where it wants to.

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tazziedog said:

It is also very hard to diagnose spinal mets since the symptoms often show up before the lesion can be seen on an xray.


 

Can spinal mets be confused with arthritis on xrays?  Harley started walking differently last month, xrays showed his hips are great, but his lower spine had arthritis.  Xrays also showed no visible sign of cancer elsewhere.  I'm worried about spinal mets, esp since it seems to be quite common here.  I've also read that Rottweilers have a higher risk of bone involvement with Histiocytic Sarcoma than other breeds.  

Amputation on 11/10/09, due to Histiocytic Sarcoma in left elbow. Angel Harley earned his wings on 06/24/10.


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19 June 2010 - 10:12 am
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No, arthritis involves the bony process on the bottom part of the vertebrae whereas the mets involve the area higher up within the vertebrae near the spinal cord.  Many dogs have spinal arthritis without any symptoms at all.

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Thanks, Pam.

Amputation on 11/10/09, due to Histiocytic Sarcoma in left elbow. Angel Harley earned his wings on 06/24/10.

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Thanks, Pam.

Debra & Emily, a five year old doberman mix, who was diagnosed with an osteosaecoma. She had a right rear leg amputation on May 19, 2009. On November 10, 2009 she earned her wings and regained her fourth leg.

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FYI: After receiving a generous contribution to our Tripawds Community campaign from Sarah, we recalled this detailed post about her dog Jake...

Primary Chondrosarcoma of the Spine, Jake’s Story
Friday, January 29th, 2010

Sarah's detailed history, feedback, and reflection may help shed some light on dealing with cancer in the spine of dogs. Hope this helps.

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