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3 Months Later Swelling Bruising leaking Fluid at Incision Site
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First week of April my American Bully Frank had a front leg amputated due to bone cancer.  Afterwards, he seemed to heal with no significant issues. He was back to his happy self and still seems happy. About a month ago, swelling and fluids started leaking at the once healed incision. I have taken him to the vet they feel he must've hit it and has soft tissue damage so antibiotics, ice and warm pads with continued pain meds were the way to go. They did a scan and said no cancer was detected. Took him back a week later as it was even more swollen and they said the same thing, just let the meds run it’s course and give it time. I was away for work for 2 weeks and my husband continued the routine of meds ice/warm pad. I came home and it’s even bigger, feels hard. Still has bloody clear fluid leaking. At this point it looks like it’s going to rip the incision site completely back open. I am getting him back to the vet tomorrow. He’s still eating and drinking well, looks to be in a good mood for the most part. I am lost. I have taken him to the vet seems every 2 weeks since his surgery, more due to paranoia on my part, he’s my baby. Has anyone experienced this?


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This is not normal.  Either he has a deep abscess or hematoma in the deep tissues (possible suture reaction?) or something unrelated is going on.  It is not typical for cancer to come back at the incision site.  Was a biopsy done to confirm osteosarcoma?  He might need another surgery to lance a deep pocket of fluid and place a drain.

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tazziedog said
This is not normal.  Either he has a deep abscess or hematoma in the deep tissues (possible suture reaction?) or something unrelated is going on.  It is not typical for cancer to come back at the incision site.  Was a biopsy done to confirm osteosarcoma?  He might need another surgery to lance a deep pocket of fluid and place a drain.

Pam  

We had the amputation done and the leg sent for testing, they confirmed osteosarcoma in the later stage and gave him 6-8 months to live even after amputation since at that stage it’s often in the lungs even if they can’t see it yet. It’s what I was told by the vet. They recommended the amputation so he’d be in less pain for what he’d have left. Even since I posted this earlier today the drainage has increased and along another part of the incision. I’m frustrated and not sure what to ask and push for from the vet. 

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22 July 2018 - 11:29 am
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Hello and welcome, your future posts will not have to wait for approval.

I deleted your identical post in the Treatment Fourm to avoid confusion.

I'm not a vet but from my experience with two Tripawds and stories here this is very unusual. He is about 3 months post op- right? Everything from the amputation should be healed by now.  If it was a soft tissue injury from a month ago it should be better not worse with the treatment he is getting.  You said a 'scan' was done- was that an x-ray?  It sounds like his body is trying to get rid of something like a suture or an infection.  If the vet still says wait maybe it's time for another opinion.

Karen

Tri-pug Maggie survived a 4.5 year mast cell cancer battle only to be lost to oral melanoma.

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              Maggie's Story                  Amputation and Chemo

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Hello and welcome, your future posts will not have to wait for approval.

I deleted your identical post in the Treatment Fourm to avoid confusion.

I'm not a vet but from my experience with two Tripawds and stories here this is very unusual. He is about 3 months post op- right? Everything from the amputation should be healed by now.  If it was a soft tissue injury from a month ago it should be better not worse with the treatment he is getting.  You said a 'scan' was done- was that an x-ray?  It sounds like his body is trying to get rid of something like a suture or an infection.  If the vet still says wait maybe it's time for another opinion.

Karen  

Thank you for removing my duplicate posts, thought I had submitted the first to the wrong forum. April 10th is when he had the amputation. He developed a hematoma a couple days later and from there everything seemed to heal accordingly. And yes by scan I meant X-ray. He’s had 3 done now as I was caught completely off guard with his first diagnosis. He missed my bottom 2 steps and fell, was limping a little then a week later there was swelling at what would be his ankle, sorry I’m not sure the technical term. I got him into the vet the next day and that’s when they diagnosed him. The bone on the X-ray looked like Swiss cheese. They did a full leg amputation the day after and sent it for testing. We are new to this vet as the one we had always gone to wouldn’t get him in for a full month. This vet though came highly recommended by a few people whose dogs had cancer, but at this point I’m thinking I need to take him elsewhere. Dealing with this the past month after all seemed to be going in the right direction now seems hopeless. I hate to think what he must be feeling and I don’t know how else to help him. In 3 months since the surgery I’ve had him seen by the vet 6 times. I just really want to help him and do what’s best. Sorry for such the long post. I’m going to ask the vet about some of the suggestions from here and find a second opinion if they’re not going to take action. 

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Don't worry about long posts- this is a great place to get all those thoughts out!

It must be so frustrating for you but don't give up! The fact that he is eating and drinking and in a decent mood despite the setbacks is  a good sign.

I asked about the xray because if it is something like Dr. Pam suggested then it probably wouldn't show on a xray. 

You did the right thing choosing to get rid of the terrible bone pain with amputation! I know you are questioning it now but he would have been in terrible, unrelenting pain if you didn't try.  While most pups have uneventful recoveries some do have setbacks like Frank.  Keep pushing the vet until you get an answer that makes sense to you- you are being a great advocate for him!

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls

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krun15 said
Don't worry about long posts- this is a great place to get all those thoughts out!

It must be so frustrating for you but don't give up! The fact that he is eating and drinking and in a decent mood despite the setbacks is  a good sign.

I asked about the xray because if it is something like Dr. Pam suggested then it probably wouldn't show on a xray. 

You did the right thing choosing to get rid of the terrible bone pain with amputation! I know you are questioning it now but he would have been in terrible, unrelenting pain if you didn't try.  While most pups have uneventful recoveries some do have setbacks like Frank.  Keep pushing the vet until you get an answer that makes sense to you- you are being a great advocate for him!

Karen and the Spirit Pug Girls  

Thank you, it’s sure has been difficult. I know I’m not the first to wish dogs could speak, it’s hard being their voice. I have gone to this site many of times as a guest during his ordeal, but this just seemed abnormal and I couldn’t find any information for something like it this far along into what should be the healing process. I have faith he’ll get back to his new normal, we’ll keep pushing along. He’s definitely been tough through all of it so far so I’m hoping he can catch a break. I appreciate the help, makes me feel more confident knowing I’m not the only one thinking this is abnormal. 


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22 July 2018 - 6:04 pm
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If it is draining then there is more fluid that probably needs to come out so I would push for an exploratory surgery of the incision.

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If it is draining then there is more fluid that probably needs to come out so I would push for an exploratory surgery of the incision.

Pam  

I am going to ask about if it is something they will do tomorrow when I get him in. It started off with a yellowish tinted fluid and has went to clear and bloody, very watery and it just drips. It looks to be the same kind of fluid now as when he had a hematoma shortly after the surgery. When they pulled the staples out it popped it and then looked like all healed. Must still be something like you said. It looks like a softball is in there. I really appreciate your advice Pam and it helps gives me the confidence to be a better advocate for him. 

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First week of April my American Bully Frank had a front leg amputated due to bone cancer.  Afterwards, he seemed to heal with no significant issues. He was back to his happy self and still seems happy. About a month ago, swelling and fluids started leaking at the once healed incision. I have taken him to the vet they feel he must've hit it and has soft tissue damage so antibiotics, ice and warm pads with continued pain meds were the way to go. They did a scan and said no cancer was detected. Took him back a week later as it was even more swollen and they said the same thing, just let the meds run it’s course and give it time. I was away for work for 2 weeks and my husband continued the routine of meds ice/warm pad. I came home and it’s even bigger, feels hard. Still has bloody clear fluid leaking. At this point it looks like it’s going to rip the incision site completely back open. I am getting him back to the vet tomorrow. He’s still eating and drinking well, looks to be in a good mood for the most part. I am lost. I have taken him to the vet seems every 2 weeks since his surgery, more due to paranoia on my part, he’s my baby. Has anyone experienced this?  

annhersh said
First week of April my American Bully Frank had a front leg amputated due to bone cancer.  Afterwards, he seemed to heal with no significant issues. He was back to his happy self and still seems happy. About a month ago, swelling and fluids started leaking at the once healed incision. I have taken him to the vet they feel he must've hit it and has soft tissue damage so antibiotics, ice and warm pads with continued pain meds were the way to go. They did a scan and said no cancer was detected. Took him back a week later as it was even more swollen and they said the same thing, just let the meds run it’s course and give it time. I was away for work for 2 weeks and my husband continued the routine of meds ice/warm pad. I came home and it’s even bigger, feels hard. Still has bloody clear fluid leaking. At this point it looks like it’s going to rip the incision site completely back open. I am getting him back to the vet tomorrow. He’s still eating and drinking well, looks to be in a good mood for the most part. I am lost. I have taken him to the vet seems every 2 weeks since his surgery, more due to paranoia on my part, he’s my baby. Has anyone experienced this?  

UPDATE: Sadly an aspiration was done after the ultrasound showed no pockets of fluid and the mass in his shoulder is cancer. The vet thinks since the original mass that resulted in the amputation was in the late stage that it had already spread to cartilage remaining in the shoulder area. Hes 8-1/2 years old so we’ve decided to not put him through anymore surgeries (which they’re not sure they could successfully remove the entire mass) and enjoy what time we have remaining with him. He’s given a valiant fight, I aspire to be as good of a human as he is as a dog! He’s truly been an amazing family member and a huge gap will be left in our hearts. I want to thank those who have responded and given me an outlet! 

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Just  like you've done this whole journey,  you are committed  to doing what is best for your Frank.  And you know him better than anyone.    I'm  SURE he's  in complete  agreement with you in letting him just get on with enjoying  life!

And the same thing that applied  when Frank got the original  "diagnosis ", applies now.  Frank didn't  care what the Bets said then avput having that piece of crap disease, and he doesn't  care now!  Yes, Frank IS a fighter and he is clearly  showing  you he is still enjoying  his spoiled self, and plans on doing so for a lot longer! 

Just continue  to stay jn the moment  and stay focused on the now!   Don't  let that piece of crap disease  interfere  with your time together  now.  Continue  to love and spoil and give him all sorts of junk food too!  And take lots of pictures!  We would love to see more of Frank.  And make sure you get some selfies  in there too!

Frank is so proud of you and loves having you as his hooman❤

Love

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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Wow that happened so fast, I'm really sorry to hear the results. My heart goes out to you, what a tough situation. As hard as this is, you are doing right by your boy by following your heart. Spoil him rotten, love him up and follow his lead. Even in hard times like this, animals know how to make the most of each moment. We know you'll help to make them count. And when you want to lean on us for emotional support, we will be here for you. 

Give Frank extra scratches and smooches from us. We are keeping you in our thoughts.

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