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12 September 2016 - 8:33 pm
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On Friday we had a consultation with a vet who specializes in pain management .  She's an anesthesiologist, and does acupuncture and teaches at the university.  She focuses on the entire animal, including nutrition, exercise, etc.  I really liked her!

For nutrition, she was focused on a balanced diet.  We home cook half of Milo's food (he gets kibble, Budwig diet-like, plus home cooked meats and vegies.)  She asked a lot of questions about supplements and vitamins.  (I think we passed.)  Her concern is for home-cookers who do not account for proper calcium or Omega 3s or other vitamins.  She did approve of k9 immunity.  She did say that dog's don't digest flaxseed oil well and we should switch to fish oil (wild cod?)  I saw that one other time, but only one other time, so we were still working our way through our flaxseed oil.  We're going to change.  The vet herself uses kibble and canned food to feed her two labs.  She said the nutritionists complain a bit, but then they complain about all diets!

After answering more lifestyle questions, the vet got her hands on Milo.  She showed me that his hips are tight, and showed how he responded to certain squeezing because it was tight and sore.  I'm always impressed with the way they can squeeze and get a response -- I can never do that! 

We discussed the motion of a front-leg tripawd vs a 4-legged dog.  Instead of the back going back and forth in an S-motion, Tripawds jump and their back goes up-and-down like a porpoise.  As a result, their front leg gets extra stress so their shoulders get tight, and their back legs tend to scrunch down as if they're prepping for their next jump/hop.  Milo has alot of tightness from that coiled stance. 

She also pointed out the "nose-to-tail" shake when dog's first get up.  A dog that has pain or is tight, will start the shake at the nose, but the shake stops at the pain.  I noticed Milo's shake usually goes to his tail, but sometimes stops halfway down his back.  A good massage Milo's shake all the way back.  Dog's with neck pain will only wiggle their nose.  The shake gives me one more thing to focus on and worry about.

After out meeting, she recommended we see a chiropractor for Milo.  I asked about acupuncture in general.  She said it can help with energy and mia-fascial pain, but thinks Milo is best with manipulating his spine and back legs.  She did note that we could do spa-treatments like massage, hydro-therapy, physical-therapy, acupuncture, and chiropractor stuff every day of the week -- there are so many options, and each has it's own benefits, but that's not directed or really beneficial.   

I found the session to be well worth the money and informative.  Milo is in decent shape now, but some days are tighter than others.  Our goal is to keep him healthy rather than wait until he gets decrepit then try to fix him.  Monday evening, a week from tonight, is our first chiropractor visit.  I can hardly wait!

Peace,

-Jenifer & Milo 

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12 September 2016 - 8:41 pm
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wow!  That sounds like a great appointment!  I hope you were able to write everything down so you remember it all.  Sometimes you get so much information, then it's hard to remember it later.  All that hands-on will be great too heart

Donna

Donna, Glenn & Murphy 

Murphy had his right front leg amputated due to histiocytic sarcoma at 7 years old. He survived 4 years, 2 months & 1 week, only to be taken by hemangiosarcoma at 11 1/2 years 6/12/17  
Read about Murphy's Life on Three Legs

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12 September 2016 - 8:59 pm
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Thanks so much for sharing Milo's co sult with js. It was very I informative!

Quite interesting about the head to tail shake and where it stops is where the pain is!

Let us k iw how the chiropractic treatment goes. We'd love to see video!

Tha ks again for sharing!

Hugs!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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13 September 2016 - 1:48 pm
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YAAAY! We LOVE it when people go for consults like this, thank you so much for sharing the details. She sounds so helpful and will greatly benefit Milo in his 3-legged life. Who is she? Feel free to post a shout out in our "Veterinary Specialists Referrals" Forum.

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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13 September 2016 - 5:29 pm
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oh wow that was very interesting info! Thank you so much for sharing with us. We have an upcoming Vet appt. this week as a follow up/suture removal for Kylie and I was planning to ask about next steps and what kind of therapy might be beneficial to her! This helps me feel better prepared to discuss options like maybe she should continue with chiro again? She had some sessions before we knew it was cancer (and she did like the lady alot 🙂

Milo sure sounds like he's in good hands!! I hope you will please update us again after his first chiro appt!

~Chris & Kylie 🙂

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14 September 2016 - 9:25 am
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This morning, Milo got up and shook from his nose -- to his shoulders.  His shake didn't pass his rib cage.  I gave him a 30 second rough and tumble rub down, then did the cookie exercise (hold treats at his hips, below him, and above to get him to stretch) -- and when we finished -- I got a nose to tail shake!  Yay!

Before I left for work, we did a loop around the house with a lot of sits (squats) and cookie stretches.  He was sprinting like crazy to each stopping point.  And a bit later when we went inside I spotted another nose-to-tail shake!

I'm hoping to learn a few new exercises or stretches for him at the chiropractors on Monday.   Hopefully, we'll get some "homework".  We will absolutely share anything we learn and any "homework".

Peace,

Jenifer & Milo 

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14 September 2016 - 10:06 am
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WAY TO SHAKE, RATTLE AND ROLL MILO!!!

Jenifer, thank you sooooo much for taking the time to share all the insight you gained from your consultation...And from your first hand experience and observations when using these techniwues. Very, very helpful!

I know Milo is thrilled to be getting all these extra cookies!

Love!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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18 September 2016 - 7:34 am
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That is so cool! I love homework like that when u learn new hints and try them out and actually see instant results that it works!

i pray Milo continues to get better and stronger and I look forward to the update from your appt. Monday! 

~Chris & Kylie xo

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22 September 2016 - 10:46 am
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Here's the outbrief from the chiropractor visit.

First -- no exercises or homework or anything of the sort.  Nothing cool and useful to share.

The visit was probably a lot like a human going to a human chiropractor (I've never gone, but I've seen it on TV!)  Because it was his first visit to the practice, there were questions about his diet and and activities and such.  Dr. Karas, the pain management , anesthesiologist from Tufts and had already talked to Dr. Rogers, the chiro, so she had some expectations -- good expectations, that Milo wasn't in bad shape.  After a bit, it was treatment time.  Milo was standing on a mat, the vet tech was near his head, keeping him calm, and occasionally feeding him a liver treat, and the chiro was near his back end and moved around more.  At one point, she was manipulating his back left leg (he's missing his front left).  Then she said "Whoa, did you feel that?" to the tech.  Yes, she had!  She said his left pelvis was all out of whack, and it was a big re-alignment.  She seemed to pull his tail alot.  She had her arm wrapped around his abdomen as she pushed on his back hips.  A couple of times he had to balance on just two legs -- front right, and one rear at a time.  Near the end, she even did the turn his head slowly and far in each direction, like she was cracking his neck (just like on TV!)  Milo stood for 3/4 of the time, and laid for 1/4.  The whole thing took about 20-30 minutes.  She then listed all the points she adjusted, e.g., T10-T11, lumbar whatever, shoulder-ma-jig.

I asked how often do dogs go.  She said some are one-and-dones, but typically she suggests every 4-6 weeks.  But for a new dog like Milo who has such a significant change in alignment with the amputation, she likes to see them again in 7-10 days to see if it "stuck", or if he regressed back.  She says it might take a few visits to get his body and nervous system to start holding the alignment.  So we are headed back again this coming Monday (one week).

The vet practice is Integrative Animal Health in Bolton, MA.  They do traditional medicine, hollistic, hydro-therapy tank, physical therapy, chiro, acupuncture, and who knows what else.  At this point, she thinks just chiro is necessary for Milo, but if he starts to show weakness in back legs, for instance, then we could add physical or hydro.  She thinks he seems strong and balanced for now.  While waiting for the tech to print the bill, we got Milo to step up on the soft, nubby physical therapy thing they use for balance and working on the core.  He did it for a treat and was happy to stand there for a good bit waiting for another, hopped down, back up -- the vet said he has great balance. 

So.... how has it effected Milo?  I swear when I petted him the next morning, along his spine felt softer, less hard/tense muscle.  On our Tuesday night walk in the neighborhood, he was crazy, happy, high-energy all over the place.  (we live in a cul-de-sac-like subdivision, so we don't use a leash, we just put a headlamp around his neck so he can be seen at night.)  It does seem like he's a bit klutzier the last few days, stumbling more, almost like he forgets he doesn't have a leg.  He'll be standing there, and go to move, and almost face plant, as if he tried to put his missing left foot our first.  His back left leg is still tight when I massage him, and I think it's a bit tender when petting/rubbing him, but it doesn't seem to bother him when he's moving.  

I give the trip to the chiro -- two thumbs up!

Peace,

-Jenifer & Milo

P.S.  Thank you to this Tripawd community and to Rene and Jim and the authors of the "Loving Life on 3-Legs" book.  I've learned so much in terms of exercise, strengthening his core, keeping him healthy, etc.  I probably sounded so "smart" and like the perfect pet parent when sharing with the vet what we do with him (cookie exercises, sit-stands, walking on the bed) -- and it's all stuff I learned here!

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22 September 2016 - 12:07 pm
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Fascinating, absolutely fascinating! Thank you yet again, for sharing such detailed information.

Milo really is a very good boy! He just seems to "go with the flow" and find enjoyment in every adventure he jumps into!!

I haven't done chiro either, but I think I've heard soreness does settle in at first before it gets better. Clearly though, Milo felt extra good right after!

Hugs!!!

Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

Happy Hannah had a glorious additional bonus time of over one yr & two months after amp for osteo! She made me laugh everyday! Joined April's Angels after send off meal of steak, ice cream, M&Ms & deer poop!

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22 September 2016 - 12:22 pm
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Wow what an awesome clinic, I just looked them up online (http://www.iahcbolton.com). You are so fortunate to be working with these docs! I'm not sure if I've mentioned that the Tripawds Foundation will reimburse for Milo's first consult. Have I? I'm having a brain fart, can't remember right now. If I haven't told you about it, be sure to read more about the Rehab Reimbursement Program and apply soon OK?

Thanks for the awesome description of how the visit went. Any chance you were able to snap photos? I know it's hard to do that during visits. We'd just love to feature your and Milo's experience in a blog post. Rehab therapy is SO important as you know.

Your kind words about our e-books just made our day here at Tripawds HQ, thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

Tripawds Founders Jim and Rene
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22 September 2016 - 4:58 pm
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wow, thank you! So interesting about the full body shake - now I have to see if Isa stops mid-shake or not. and such great detail, thank you!

We've been to three rehab sessions to date and I've yet to make up my mind what I think about it. I read Baloo's blog this afternoon about his two visits and feel both better and worse about our sessions - why I've been trolling on the forums looking for info.

Hugs to you both!

Right rear leg amp 7/12/16 due to OSA. Metastatic lesion on her right front leg, January 2017. Joined the Winter Warriors January 19, 2017. Run free my sweet girl.

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